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Euroobserver wrote:

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Roz,
Please, let us know where on Rte 112 in NH the young lady is supposed to have disappeared from her car back in 1999, five years before Maura´s vanishing. Route 112 continues eastwards past Lincoln/North Woodstock as the Kancamagus Highway as far as Conway/Bartlett, so the exact location would be of interest to know.
This is the first account I have ever read about such a case.
Please, tell us on what forum you read about the supposed 1999 vanishing and whether there were any sources or names mentioned whatsoever.
Thank you.

rozShoem wrote:

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I too was surprised as I had not heard about this either until yesterday. This information appeared in UnionLeader.com . There is an article entitled, "Missing Maura Murray - Four Years and Countless Questions," written by Nancy West, dated Sunday, October 28, 2007. Scroll downward to the "comment" section.....I believe the initial of the comment author's surname is "T".... "of Massena, NY." Last evening I searched to see if I could find more information regarding another missing woman of Route 112 but was unsuccessful. This, of course, does not mean that there was not another woman who disappeared on Route 112. If I find any info I'll post it. Hope this helps.

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rozShoem wrote:

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Stephen.... I find what you say very interesting...If my "red herrings" are smelling up your world and in particular your worldview, please feel free not to read my postings. There are plenty of others to choose from. Thank you.

Bill 05478 wrote:

Message from the Cold Case Unit:
RE: Maura MurrayTuesday, January 11, 2011 2:02 PM
From: "ColdCaseUnit" <ColdCaseUnit@DOS.NH.GOV >
To: "Bill Wood" <billwood810@yahoo.com>
Hi Mr. Wood, thank you for your recent email on the Maura Murray case. The information has been documented and will be considered as the investigation into Maura Murray’s disappearance continues. Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.
Trooper Mike Kokoski
Cold Case Unit

Euroobserver wrote:

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Roz,
Thanks for this information.
Apparently the Union Leader is charging a fee for accessing their news archives, so I was unable to check the comments section of the article straight away.
It would seem rather strange, however, that there does not seem to be any publicly known information regarding a supposed disapperance of another young lady driver on NH Rte 112 four years prior to Maura´s vanishing.
Thoughts, anyone???

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WTH-the-original wrote:

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Sara. I believe that statistic is and likely always was an off the cuff remark to ensure that the prosecution would not be hindered by needing to release any information to the public.
Bill

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rozShoem wrote:

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Bill 05478,
Not only is it gossip as you say,, but it sounds as though she once again is attempting to put the onus on Maura, her friends and family! Why? It almost sounds like she is attempting to blame the victim/victims. Why? She continues to delve into what she perceives as some dark, sinister, secret.....that happened down in the bowels of Amherst! Please. It's becoming increasingly obvious that she may have a personal agenda.

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Stephen wrote:

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Some observations.
In my humble opinion:
1. If one desires to discuss a scenario one believes might explain Maura Murray's disappearance,(example serial killer disguized as a law enforcement officer) it is only necessary to state your idea and be open to honest critisism of it. This means that one is willing to consider fact-based factors both in support and against the idea.
It is unnecessary, and in fact detrimental, to include in one's presentation, factors that are not fact-based. Their inclusion in an idea tends to contribute to its derailment, even if it has merit to explore further. This is unfortunate, because further exploration should allow everyone to clearly know the strengths and weaknesses to the idea itself.
On the other hand, an idea that has been sharpened through public discussion and critique, could be used for future reference, and therefore possibly helpful.
Personal characterizations of individuals presenting fact-based factors either in support of, or detrimental to a scenario, have no impact on the validity or invalidity of the scenario itself.
The reason inquiries are made when additional "facts" are presented, is because a responsible individual will want to know if they are indeed true. If they are true, a responsible individual will consider the known true facts when considering the validity of possibilities presented. In order to determine which facts are known and true, one must be able to examine documentation that establishes it as fact, or lack of documentation resulting in its non consideration.
Countless hours have been wasted on investigating the validity of "facts" that were presented when supporting documentattion was either non existent, or outside the public realm.
Logically, as time goes on, we recognize that additional documentation-supported facts may end up being revealed and therefore, a part of the public domain. However, we also realize that the number of documentation-based facts that lie outside the public realm is finite. Therefore, as time goes on, we grow sceptical to further revelations and are only willing to ask for a source document. We have spent too much time chasing red herrings to justify further research.
If the purported fact has not been established by any documentation within the public domain, and therefore known to long term researchers, we will ask for your source, and expect that the source is documentation, not heresay. If one does not present their source for scrutiny, it will not be considered as fact.
The best we can do to work towards progress here, is go through this process.
We can also keep this case in the public eye by encouraging discussion in accord with the above. We can also periodically recap our findings. But most importantly, we can periodically reiterate what happened.

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Wowzer the real one wrote:

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I have lived in this area a very long time and I don't remember hearing about another missing woman and her car and belongings found on 112. I'm chalking it up as another rumour but everyone is free to their own opinion on it.
Euro copy and paste the following into Google or another search engine and the article and comments should come up. I hope anyway.
Missing Maura Murray - Four Years and Countless Questions," written by Nancy West

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Hope_Eternal wrote:

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Are you saying that you believe the Sr. Asst. Atty Gen'l lied to the Judges of the NH Supreme Court..........

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hannah_b wrote:

Upon reading the article "Maura Murray - Four years and countless questions" I came across this, which I found a bit odd. Kind of gives the impression Fred wasn´t even interested in Billy´s thoughts on the disappearance.
"If Fred ever wants/needs Billy's input, he will be glad to participate, but until then, he wants to remain out of the picture."

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hannah_b wrote:

Upon reading the article "Maura Murray - Four years and countless questions" I came across this, which I found a bit odd. Kind of gives the impression Fred wasn´t even interested in Billy´s thoughts on the disappearance.

"If Fred ever wants/needs Billy's input, he will be glad to participate, but until then, he wants to remain out of the picture."

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Wowzer the real one wrote:

Wow Lady Gray. How quickly you come out to defend just a certain few so ugly rumours don't get started by taking info out of context.
Where do you hide when innocent people here in NH
are barraged with ugly rumours and the people in towns that most likely have never even heard of Maura Murray are called inbreds.
Just wondering Lady Gray why you don't defend those people and try to stop ugly rumours from starting by info being taken out of context.
Just something to think about.

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Snowy wrote:

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it was and is unwise to denigrate targeted individuals and whole towns in the name of Maura Murray, while maintaining an expectation that the kindness of strangers and charitable hearts will prevail. the mystery of her disappearance is deepened by the conduct of her father and, as late as a few days ago, repeated, indefensible name-calling.

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Snowy wrote:

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i fear i may have already violated the spirit of your reasonable suggestions. mention of the Vasi hit was discussed today offline with someone given to research on behalf of Maura over many years. no one is married to the supposition about Vasi....and i cannot document it as based in fact.
once again, thanks for offering some practical advice about how to turn down the clashing of ideas a notch or two.

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just me wrote:

The saturn was facing the W-mans home. Trouble lights were flashing they said, but maybe not yet when FW made the call. Either way, she relays that someone is in the passenger seat and the door is open. This matters! Because the drivers door was budged up to the snowbank and "Maura" could hardly get out......(something to that effect)
Also, been thinking about the twins on my street that were hit by snowmobiles. You don't have to be driving one very fast to run into and kill someone. Police thought there was someone "parked" or possibly a "drunk driver", someone about to go snowmobiling. That people did this from time to time in NH. Unless that was never said. Anyhow, I wonder if they saw snowmobile tracks that night in order for them to say this. And did you ever wonder if somebody came along on a snowmobile

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Wowzer the real one wrote:

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I have lived in this area a very long time and I don't remember hearing about another missing woman and her car and belongings found on 112. I'm chalking it up as another rumour but everyone is free to their own opinion on it.
Euro copy and paste the following into Google or another search engine and the article and comments should come up. I hope anyway.
Missing Maura Murray - Four Years and Countless Questions," written by Nancy West