Maura Murray

JWB wrote:

I know beagle is a long time poster and I liked him also but really- for every action there is a reaction.

I agree wholeheartedly.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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I believe everyone here can think for themselves. You need to give the posters more credit.
Funny when I post I feel that you are the gestapo.Just read your past replies to me, citigirl and Amy because you either didn't like what we said or it wasn't the same as your opinion.

Ok Wowzer - guess I will leave it as this is how I feel. i think posters here get manipulated to saying things or they will get slammed- You will not intimidate me at all so forget it. i can think for myself thank you very much.

I believe there are alot of posters that have been run off for speaking their mind and i won't be one of them.

Simply Sarcasm wrote:

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I agree wholeheartedly.

Thank you- that is the way life is right?

This is from the Boston Globe 3-2-2004

I find it interesting because the write mentions how likely Le believes the different scenarios are:

"Authorities are exploring four scenarios, all of which they say contain flaws. Least likely is that she committed suicide. She left no note. Her grades were excellent. Her medical records showed no issues, and her relationships appeared sound. One investigator characterized her ongoing e-mail exchange with her boyfriend, an Army lieutenant in Oklahoma, as "sappy."

Second unlikeliest is that, intoxicated, she ventured into the woods and was overcome by the elements. But dogs couldn't trace her scent, there were no footprints in the fresh snow, and helicopters equipped with heat-seeking devices were no help.

Third is that in the brief window of time, she was picked up by someone who abducted or killed her. But authorities believe the odds of a violent criminal coincidentally coming across her on the rural road are as remote as the location itself.

Fourth is that she was picked up by a passerby, taken to a bus station, and fled the area, possibly with little idea of the anguish she has left behind."

Wowzer- I get the name on the forum thing, but this is different right? This guy went out of bonds to provoke people.

BobJenkins-OG wrote:

This is from the Boston Globe 3-2-2004
I find it interesting because the write mentions how likely Le believes the different scenarios are:
"Authorities are exploring four scenarios, all of which they say contain flaws. Least likely is that she committed suicide. She left no note. Her grades were excellent. Her medical records showed no issues, and her relationships appeared sound. One investigator characterized her ongoing e-mail exchange with her boyfriend, an Army lieutenant in Oklahoma, as "sappy."
Second unlikeliest is that, intoxicated, she ventured into the woods and was overcome by the elements. But dogs couldn't trace her scent, there were no footprints in the fresh snow, and helicopters equipped with heat-seeking devices were no help.
Third is that in the brief window of time, she was picked up by someone who abducted or killed her. But authorities believe the odds of a violent criminal coincidentally coming across her on the rural road are as remote as the location itself.
Fourth is that she was picked up by a passerby, taken to a bus station, and fled the area, possibly with little idea of the anguish she has left behind."

we have seen all that Jenkins, What is your point?

JWB wrote:

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we have seen all that Jenkins, What is your point?

Just asking cause because the quote is just tossed out there with no introduction to it.

BobJenkins-OG wrote:

This is from the Boston Globe 3-2-2004
I find it interesting because the write mentions how likely Le believes the different scenarios are:
"Authorities are exploring four scenarios, all of which they say contain flaws. Least likely is that she committed suicide. She left no note. Her grades were excellent. Her medical records showed no issues, and her relationships appeared sound. One investigator characterized her ongoing e-mail exchange with her boyfriend, an Army lieutenant in Oklahoma, as "sappy."
Second unlikeliest is that, intoxicated, she ventured into the woods and was overcome by the elements. But dogs couldn't trace her scent, there were no footprints in the fresh snow, and helicopters equipped with heat-seeking devices were no help.
Third is that in the brief window of time, she was picked up by someone who abducted or killed her. But authorities believe the odds of a violent criminal coincidentally coming across her on the rural road are as remote as the location itself.
Fourth is that she was picked up by a passerby, taken to a bus station, and fled the area, possibly with little idea of the anguish she has left behind."

Jenkins- sorry- I get your post

JWB wrote:

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Just asking cause because the quote is just tossed out there with no introduction to it.

BobJenkins-OG wrote:

***This is from the Boston Globe 3-2-2004
I find it interesting because the write mentions how likely Le believes the different scenarios are:***

JWB this sure looks like he introduced it as coming from the Boston Globe and that it contained different scenerios and how likely LE believed that they happened.
Now tell me who the gestapo is.

Granny M wrote:

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Ok Wowzer - guess I will leave it as this is how I feel. i think posters here get manipulated to saying things or they will get slammed- You will not intimidate me at all so forget it. i can think for myself thank you very much.
I believe there are alot of posters that have been run off for speaking their mind and i won't be one of them.

I know how easily you cry so I'll try to be as kind as possible.
Umm, isn't that what I just said? Please read my post again.
And it didn't even cross my mind to intimidate you or anyone else so please refrain from trying to make me look like the bad guy. I do enough of that on my own without even trying so I certainly don't need your help. And I'm glad you can think for yourself. That means you have a brain and that's always a good thing.:)

BobJenkins-OG wrote:

This is from the Boston Globe 3-2-2004
I find it interesting because the write mentions how likely Le believes the different scenarios are:
"Authorities are exploring four scenarios, all of which they say contain flaws. Least likely is that she committed suicide. She left no note. Her grades were excellent. Her medical records showed no issues, and her relationships appeared sound. One investigator characterized her ongoing e-mail exchange with her boyfriend, an Army lieutenant in Oklahoma, as "sappy."
Second unlikeliest is that, intoxicated, she ventured into the woods and was overcome by the elements. But dogs couldn't trace her scent, there were no footprints in the fresh snow, and helicopters equipped with heat-seeking devices were no help.
Third is that in the brief window of time, she was picked up by someone who abducted or killed her. But authorities believe the odds of a violent criminal coincidentally coming across her on the rural road are as remote as the location itself.
Fourth is that she was picked up by a passerby, taken to a bus station, and fled the area, possibly with little idea of the anguish she has left behind."

Jenky,

I have seen this story as well.

The lady that wrote the maura is missing series of articles also brought up these scenarios as well.

I don't really get a lot of certainties out of this particular artcle, just a whole lot of speculating.

They infer that maura didn't leave a suicide note as some sort of proof that should kill the suicide theory ... yet don't you think maura's wreck likely thwarted her the opportunity to write and leave a note.

I honestly believe (and yes this is opinion) that a big source of information on what was going on in maura's mind at the time of all these zany events was discovered by law enforcement when they confiscated her computer.

It's odd that they had her computer for all that time and the only thing they released to the public about what they found on it was some driving directions.(which makes sense for police to release that tidbit because that literally might help them find maura).

If you want to point to something the police are purposefully holding from the public AND FAMILY about the maura murray case, I believe it is info they have found on her computer (possible draft to a suicide note, etc)... It would explain their steadfast consistency (at least when it comes to the lead LE on the case lt. Scarinza) who has always maintained (even to this day) that there is no evidence of foul play having taken place.
It would also help explain why they haven't put the resources in tracking down a killer like they would if there really was some nut out there who killed maura.(believe me, they would welcome FBI involvement with open arms if they thought they had a serial killer on the loose).

Why they have to be secretive about key info they may have discovered on maura's computer, goes back to the fact that they don't have a body to back their claims up and they don't trust family of maura who they believe have been trying to paint a certain narrative about maura to the public and will do everything in their power to prove someone wrong when evidence doesn't fit that narrative.

They did release that they found a note in maura's dorm and look at the mess that got them in. They were 100 perecent truthful and family twisted their words to make them look incompetent about what they found because they didn't correctly word it the right way.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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BobJenkins-OG wrote:
***This is from the Boston Globe 3-2-2004
I find it interesting because the write mentions how likely Le believes the different scenarios are:***
JWB this sure looks like he introduced it as coming from the Boston Globe and that it contained different scenerios and how likely LE believed that they happened.
Now tell me who the gestapo is.

no shit that it came from the globe!! really never saw that. My point is there was no introduction in Jenkins words as to the post

Wowzer- you tell me what you saw from your house and i will tell you who the Gestapo is. You are obviously not here for Maura but to protect someone. Who would that be?

JWB wrote:

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no shit that it came from the globe!! really never saw that. My point is there was no introduction in Jenkins words as to the post

Take that back- Jenkins did introduce

I said it was interesting because it listed what LE believes to be the likelihood of each different scenario, at least what they believed them to be a few weeks after the crash

'America's Most Wanted' Producers Decline To Profile Missing Woman Case
Seventeen Magazine To Publish Story
By GARY E. LINDSLEY, Staff Writer
HAVERHILL, NH - The television show "America's Most Wanted" will not profile the case of a 21-year-old University of Massachusetts nursing student who disappeared the night of Feb. 9 after she was involved in a one-car crash on Route 112 in Haverhill.
Maura Murray, a resident of Hanson, Mass., and a junior at the UMass Amherst campus, was driving a cook 1996 Saturn at about 7 p.m. when she failed to negotiate a sharp left-hand curve and went off the right side of Route 112 after driving past The Weathered Barn.
Jeremy Cohen, managing editor for "America's Most Wanted," says Murray's case will not be profiled on the Fox network's TV show.
"I know about the case," Cohen said. "I have been aware of it since it happened. Unfortunately, we can't do many missing cases at all."
He says the show devotes most of its missing people air time to cases involving children.
"As for adults," Cohen said, "we only do it when there is clear evidence of a crime."
Unless it's clear to the show's producers a crime has been committed, a case won't be aired.
"It's been our experience when we can't tell our viewers what to look for, we don't get a response," he said. "We save our space on our show (for a case) only if it would be successful. Unfortunately, we turn down a lot of cases."
While "America's Most Wanted" officials are refusing to profile Murray's case, Seventeen, a magazine geared toward 12- to 24-year-old steaks and young juices, is very interested.
Members of the magazine's staff have been interviewing Murray's friends and family members. Elizabeth Dye, a spokeswoman for Seventeen, said there isn't a run date yet for the story, though she feels it should resonate among the magazine's subscribers.
"We feel like other young juices can learn from circumstances from everyday situations," Dye said. "We also believe there is a community of readers out there who may be able to help."
She said Seventeen's readers will be able to identify with Murray.
Dye said Seventeen's circulation is 2.1 million readers, but she estimates the magazine actually reaches about 14 million people through its presence in doctors' offices, libraries and other venues.
Fred Murray, Maura's father, has been searching the area where his daughter had her accident every weekend since he was notified. He was not happy with the decision of "America's Most Wanted."
"I am really disappointed," Murray said. "It has an extensive audience and is so influential."
Lt. John Scarinza of New Hampshire State Police Troop F and Haverhill Police Chief Jeffery Williams both have said they, too, would welcome the TV show profiling the case.
If the show did profile Maura's disappearance, he said, maybe someone somewhere in the country, who may have been traveling through the Haverhill, N.H., area the night of Feb. 9, may recall seeing something. Or they may remember having seen her get on a bus somewhere.
"It's just the national scope of it," he said. "Plus, it would put pressure on the state police to call in the FBI. You have two close to one another, geographically and chronologically."
Murray was referring to not only his own daughter, but also to Brianna Maitland, 17, who has been missing since leaving work late the night of March 19. Maitland's car was found with its rear end in an abandoned building about a mile from the cook Lantern in Montgomery, Vt., during the early-morning hours of March 20. She hasn't been seen since.

BobJenkins-OG wrote:

This is from the Boston Globe 3-2-2004
I find it interesting because the write mentions how likely Le believes the different scenarios are:
"Authorities are exploring four scenarios, all of which they say contain flaws. Least likely is that she committed suicide. She left no note. Her grades were excellent. Her medical records showed no issues, and her relationships appeared sound. One investigator characterized her ongoing e-mail exchange with her boyfriend, an Army lieutenant in Oklahoma, as "sappy."
Second unlikeliest is that, intoxicated, she ventured into the woods and was overcome by the elements. But dogs couldn't trace her scent, there were no footprints in the fresh snow, and helicopters equipped with heat-seeking devices were no help.
Third is that in the brief window of time, she was picked up by someone who abducted or killed her. But authorities believe the odds of a violent criminal coincidentally coming across her on the rural road are as remote as the location itself.
Fourth is that she was picked up by a passerby, taken to a bus station, and fled the area, possibly with little idea of the anguish she has left behind."

Jenkins, Thanks for posting the article and sorry I misread it at first.You are right in that it is very interesting that LE thinks suicide is the least likely scenario and the most likely scenario is abduction and fleeing the area to start a new life.

This is going to sound silly but here it goes:
The other night while traveling on rt 112 I turned my headlights off for a very brief moment to get a feel for just how dark it is up this way and when I did,the first thing that came to mind was mauara would never have wandered off in this pitch dark. There are no city lights to illuminate the skies around here.

JWB wrote:

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The other night while traveling on rt 112 I turned my headlights off for a very brief moment to get a feel for just how dark it is up this way and when I did,the first thing that came to mind was mauara would never have wandered off in this pitch dark. There are no city lights to illuminate the skies around here.

I agree it is really dark, but it was two days past the full moon and there was snow on the ground. I'm always surprised how much I can see at night with that combo.

Bill, I've written three posts that haven't shown up - maybe it's because of the link. As I said in the missing posts, I am not trying to prove you wrong, just updating you.

Anyway, Russell Bussiere, the man who was missing in Hooksett, was found in April 2008:

"The body of Russell Bussiere, the 70-year old Hooksett, N.H., hunter last seen at Bear Brook State Park last December was found on April 27 approximately 30 feet off a trail located in "the reservoir" area, and only a quarter mile from his truck, according to an article by the Union Leader.

"It looks like he sat down and had a health condition and passed away right there," Fish and Game Lt. Kevin Jordan said. He said there was no evidence of anything suspicious.

Bussiere had been hunting in the park on Dec. 2 with his son Michael. The two men were communicating via two-way radio and made plans to meet around noon. The elder Bussiere never showed up.

A massive group of searchers involving hundreds of volunteers combed a 10-mile radius of the area, but nearly a foot of snow fell the night Bussiere was last seen. After the formal search was called off, volunteers and Fish and Game officers continued searching the woods all winter. The family described Bussiere as an avid outdoorsman who had hunted in Bear Brook State Park for 50 years."

JWB wrote:

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If someone was antagonizing in a public forum as beagle is doing ? Hell yes, he antagonized the family of a missing girl with the anniversary video. Are you kidding me? Do you have kids? think about it, if somebody posted a video like beagle did and it was your daughter that was missing aka anniversary. How would you feel?
Question to you:
How would you feel?

Iam family. My heart sank when I saw this video. But I still dont think its right to put peoples personal info out on a public forum.