Maura Murray

Ok bill I'll say it real short an sweet for you.

Where is the evidence that the area has been "poisoned" by shack. I'm not talking about digging up some old, stupid post, we all know some stupid shit was said.

But where is the evidence the area was "poisoned", I see none. At this point I'm gonna have to call bullshit but id gladly change my opinion and agree with you about it if you can offer up any evidence for this extraordinary claim that you've been making for a long time but have never offered anything to back it up.

It's actually become comical, your clearly a very insecure individual and you actually make fun of an old lady to make yourself feel better

BobJenkins-OG wrote:

Where is the evidence that the area has been "poisoned" by shack. I'm not talking about digging up some old, stupid post, we all know some stupid shit was said.

I think you you should ask what the definition of "poisoned" is. Unless you are expecting a picture of a withering forrest with a lake filled with dead fish perhaps "poisoned" should be defined.

Excellent post you kept it short and sweet.

BobJenkins-OG wrote:

Ok bill I'll say it real short an sweet for you.
Where is the evidence that the area has been "poisoned" by shack. I'm not talking about digging up some old, stupid post, we all know some stupid shit was said.
But where is the evidence the area was "poisoned", I see none. At this point I'm gonna have to call bullshit but id gladly change my opinion and agree with you about it if you can offer up any evidence for this extraordinary claim that you've been making for a long time but have never offered anything to back it up.
It's actually become comical, your clearly a very insecure individual and you actually make fun of an old lady to make yourself feel better

I am sure it is overexaggerated like almost everything is here. Last time I posted, people were talking about their yard being walked on during the search for a missing girl as if it was the end of the world. There is a faction here that seems to be both ubersensitive and unrelentingly caustic. It is really bizarre. Anyways, just my 2 cents.

LOL bill, that's really funny.
You always respond and then you get called out on your bullshit and now you say you won't respond?
How convenient....

Your so full of shit dude, obviously if you had any evidence the area has been 'poisoned' you would post it, it's pretty clear that you don't. It's a fantasy in your mind, a total fabrication/exaggeration.

I'll gladly admit that shack has poisoned the area if you can offer up any evidence to back up this extraordinary claim.

BobJenkins-OG wrote:

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I really hope someone can repost the way to find the old forum: frostman where are you?

I don't know if Frostman still reads here. But back when she posted how to view the old forum I went there to read some of the postings and I saved the link. At the time I was interested in reading the old posts by RO, so that's pretty much all I looked for and read. Anyway, I just tried accessing the forum through the old link that Frostman had posted and the link no longer works. I guess the old site is really gone now.

BobJenkins-OG wrote:

LOL bill, that's really funny.
You always respond and then you get called out on your bullshit and now you say you won't respond?
How convenient....
Your so full of shit dude, obviously if you had any evidence the area has been 'poisoned' you would post it, it's pretty clear that you don't. It's a fantasy in your mind, a total fabrication/exaggeration.
I'll gladly admit that shack has poisoned the area if you can offer up any evidence to back up this extraordinary claim.

What a drag. OK, I'll answer this one question. You keep talking about her stupid posts, to ignore those. Jenkins, I ignore your stupid post, and use to ignore most of her stupid posts also. We are talking about something different. Now I'm not going through all the things she did, don't have to. I'll tell you this. First, you say that no one from the area is offering any information, and hasn't for years. Ask yourself why? There use to be a lot of poster from the area here, on this forum, there aren't anymore, ask yourself why? People from the area got more and more concerned about what was being said about them, and how they were being portrayed, specifically by one person in particular. Ask by who? People including myself told someone over and over that what they were doing was counterproductive when the locals were needed to help with searches and local information and possible gossip. Ask who was doing that. Even friends of that person got to the point where I was told by emails that they agreed with me and they were begging her to stop through private emails and yet she didn't. Ask why? People names were used accusing specific people of crimes when absolutely no evidence of any crime was forthcoming. Ask again, why? So if you want answers, ask your friend why she doesn't answer any of the questions I posed earlier. That will get you the answers you are looking for. Now I don't really care if you think this poisoned the area or not. You claim you were there but you remember nothing of what we are talking. So either you weren't there, like I suspect, or you were clueless to what was going on another possibilty. Since it was very public, and stated over and over, and I tried to start it very low key and over months kept trying to get her to stop escalating as it went on. It finally took, riding her like Seattle Slew before she finally stopped doing it. And don't ignore the moderator who had her stop posting several times because of things she posted. That ridiculous time-out-tent that people talk about. Guess who had her own virtual chair in there. Shack was smacked on the nose with a rolled up newspaper more than once. It was only when she realized that people were not going to let her run roughshod over everyone else that she finally stopped posting. No loss as near as I can tell. I have never done that before, or after but it was the right thing to do. Feel free to get her side of the story. I'm sure it will be quite colorful. Like you say, she an elderly woman, what harm could she possibly do?

With that, I suspect strongly that my time answering your posts is rapidly coming to an end. I find you boring and most of your posts inconsequential, the ones I can wade through so I really can't see the purpose in corresponding with you. I mean look at this post of yours. One would have done it, but you just had to post two.

Bill

WTH-the-original wrote:

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Now this is disturbing. Peanuts and unlit bulbs, for me? Now my confidence is shattered, how will I go on? My self esteem and self worth are now shot to hell. My insecurities, like Jenkins says, are starting to overcome me. I think I'm going to lose my mi.......Oh wait a minute, nope, feel fine, that's you not me. Never mind.
God I love this place. So entertaining.
And FrmLE, you are correct. I have decided to not respond to Jenkins posts, really can't anyway, I have stopped reading them. Don't think that will stop him from posting though. Should be interesting, him talking to and answering himself. I'd expect at least three times the output he normally generates. I did find it interesting that he has decided I am who I say I am, phew, and that you are also former LE, but you just don't know anything about this case. I know you must be devastated. We may need to have a support group for people that Jenkins doesn't believe are really who they say they are because he disagrees with them. Of course, we may need to also provide people with road-maps of what Jenkins "knows" at any given time as well. I think there is going to be lots of lines and erasures on that map.
Bill

Well I know I'm devastated. Jenkins said I'm full of shi* and now I'm worried sick because he claims my pretty blue eyes will turn brown.
I'd like to use your support group. Is it also for people that Jenkins thinks are full of shi*? If it is you may have a full room of people.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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Well I know I'm devastated. Jenkins said I'm full of shi* and now I'm worried sick because he claims my pretty blue eyes will turn brown.
I'd like to use your support group. Is it also for people that Jenkins thinks are full of shi*? If it is you may have a full room of people.

If the support group is also open to the "haters", "weirdos" and "the clan" then you'd better rent a second room to accommodate everyone. Luckily we should have enough peanuts and lemonade to go around.

Sad that a Forum for Maura Murray has turned into snarling at each other. Makes me even think more that Maura was snatched from that road up North because perhaps this could be a diversionary tactic?
Please remember this is about Maura.

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amy researches wrote:

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If the support group is also open to the "haters", "weirdos" and "the clan" then you'd better rent a second room to accommodate everyone. Luckily we should have enough peanuts and lemonade to go around.

It's all covered Amy. Read my next post.:)

Shack wrote:

Sad that a Forum for Maura Murray has turned into snarling at each other. Makes me even think more that Maura was snatched from that road up North because perhaps this could be a diversionary tactic?
Please remember this is about Maura.

You have used these forums from the start to insult, degrade,and accuse people that you don't even know. It is you that should remember that this is about Maura.
Shack seriously does it ever bother you when you think of all the things you've said about the people in and around this area?

WTH-the-original wrote:

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. It finally took, riding her like Seattle Slew before she finally stopped doing it. And don't ignore the moderator who had her stop posting several times because of things she posted. That ridiculous time-out-tent that people talk about. Guess who had her own virtual chair in there. Shack was smacked on the nose with a rolled up newspaper more than once. It was only when she realized that people were not going to let her run roughshod over everyone else that she finally stopped posting. No loss as near as I can tell. I have never done that before, or after but it was the right thing to do. Feel free to get her side of the story. I'm sure it will be quite colorful. Like you say, she an elderly woman, what harm could she possibly do?
With that, I suspect strongly that my time answering your posts is rapidly coming to an end. I find you boring and most of your posts inconsequential, the ones I can wade through so I really can't see the purpose in corresponding with you. I mean look at this post of yours. One would have done it, but you just had to post two.
Bill

LOL, that's your evidence??
Maybe people from the area don't have any more information to give?? At this point all of the basic info has been out there, the only people who could potentially have any more info would be the perp, or maybe someone the perp knows.
I'm sorry but if someone had information I'm sure they would be more than happy to share that info with police, the vast vast majority of the public in the area would love to be able to help find Maura..
Your not really saying that someone in the area knows what happened to Maura but they're not saying because of some stupid posts made by shack??? You can't be serious can you?
And for the record I was a member of the original forums, were you bill? If you were what moniker were you posting under back then because I certainly don't remember anyone named WTH or WTF. When did you start posting on these forums? What year?
I was there, I saw what was said, and yes there was some stupid shit said time to time. Back on the original forum nobody ever used anyone's real names ever, we never even used sbd's or cw's and their names had been in the paper. That is where the whole 'sbd' and 'cw' titles came from, the original forums. Back then nobody used any real names, nothing like they have for the last couple years on topix.
Its pretty clear that what youve been saying is a major over-exaggeration of what the situation really was. It's definitely an exaggeration because one thing that was never used on those forums was anyone's real name, Helena was not ok with that. ridiculous

amy researches wrote:

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I'll take two please. In case the first one breaks from overuse.

There's a problem with it Amy. I was reading the post before yours and the dang thing went off and I can't stop the lights or siren.
Sure is hard on the ears.

2 all who dont know it.

FORMERLE is ex-NH cop.
AmyResearches is paralegal in Illinois.
SimplyCaustic is Illinois attorney.
OrkoKringer lives in Illinois.
Jenkins thinks he is a cop or knows a lot.

Beagle is constantly harrassed attacked called names and has had his home visited, been stalked, by PIs, LE, etc. etc.

Their are ties to the Chicago syndicate with the PI firm Beagle listed in a previous page.

Coincidence? You decide.

amy researches wrote:

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Occams Razor wrote:

2 all who dont know it.
FORMERLE is ex-NH cop.
AmyResearches is paralegal in Illinois.
SimplyCaustic is Illinois attorney.
OrkoKringer lives in Illinois.
Jenkins thinks he is a cop or knows a lot.
Beagle is constantly harrassed attacked called names and has had his home visited, been stalked, by PIs, LE, etc. etc.
Their are ties to the Chicago syndicate with the PI firm Beagle listed in a previous page.
Coincidence? You decide.

Just a coincidence. I don't know Orko or Simply outside of their posts here. Or FrmLE or Jenkins. And I've certainly never been involved in stalking or harassing Beagle or anyone else, if that is what you are suggesting.

elphalba wrote:

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I am sure it is overexaggerated like almost everything is here. Last time I posted, people were talking about their yard being walked on during the search for a missing girl as if it was the end of the world. There is a faction here that seems to be both ubersensitive and unrelentingly caustic. It is really bizarre. Anyways, just my 2 cents.

It is bizarre, we got people here who openly state that they don't care about Maura, yet they're crying about someone's yard being walked on?! So really? You care more about someone's yard than a missing girl?! Who are these people??

For example we got the poster 'looking4aMoose', who hasn't posted in a couple months now. This person was all up in arms about someone walking through their yard during the '06 search for Maura, apparently their pit-bull went through their sliding glass door. Don't get me wrong, I feel bad for the dog but that's not exactly the searcher's fault, that's just horrible dog training.
someone walked through their yard once, and their dog ran through a sliding glass door, that's a crazy ass dog right there.
The dog doesn't know it was someone looking for Maura, could've just as easily been some neighborhood kid who got a little lost in the woods and needed to cut through the yard to get back to the road. So basically anybody walks through this persons yard and their dog is ready to go through a glass door? Yes the searchers should've asked permission to cut through the yard but wouldn't the dog have gone just as crazy when they walked up to the house to ask permission??
They talked about this as If the dog knew it was someone looking for Maura or something, the dog had no clue who it was, the dog is clearly in need of some serious serious training.
And who really cares If someone walks through their yard once or twice? If someone in the neighborhood lost their dog I'm sure they'd be fine with someone walking through their yard, shouldn't a little more allowance be made for a missing PERSON??
This person even went so far as to say that if they saw Fred in their yard they were going to let the pit bill loose to attack him. Truly sickening post.

The things that some of these people say, some of the people they stick up for is just truly bizarre.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

<quoted text>Shack seriously does it ever bother you when you think of all the things you've said about the people in and around this area?

Sociopaths are not capable of "feeling" bad about things they do. They feign feeling things. They are very good at faking feeling things but they are incapable of real feelings like most human beings.

Bill

Shack wrote:

Sad that a Forum for Maura Murray has turned into snarling at each other. Makes me even think more that Maura was snatched from that road up North because perhaps this could be a diversionary tactic?
Please remember this is about Maura.

I agree about the "diversionary tactics"..There are
many active members of the hidden agenda clan..Ruthless&mean bunch.They offer nothing and are hell bent on shutting people up..