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citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>May I suggest that you go back and read JWBs postings and my replies to him concerning putting posters up. Nowhere did I ever tell people not to put up posters. There have been people from NH and other areas that not only put posters up but continue to search for Maura to this day. Posters are put up but someone keeps removing them.

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Bobjenkins-OG wrote:

Emmett I really don't see what your talking about saying this looks like snitch papers. The numbers followed by abbreviations are the case numbers as far as I can tell.
What your saying about the discovery phase is definitely true, a snitch can't stay secret forever If the defendant is taking the case to trial. Upon discovery the prosecution needs to show how the case started to determine that true probable cause existed.
So the papers your talking about are what the defense learns in discovery. These papers are not discovery documents, this is a traditional arrest report.
The first page looks weird to me, namely the sentence, but the rest of it looks like a traditional arrest report. I don't see what your talking about here but that is interesting.
Could there be more to this? Could that be the reason for the ridiculously light sentence? I suppose it's possible, but it seems unlikely to me. Only thing that makes that seem possible to me is the light sentence, if that sentence is even accurate. But say she did snitch on someone, whoever sold her the adderrall for example. Not saying that happened, just using it as an example. Let's say she did, it would be months and months before that person ever got to the discovery phase and learned that Maura snitched on him, if it even got that far. Most cases are plead out long before it ever reaches that. That'd sure put an interesting twist on this case, but nothing I've ever seen or read makes me think that's a possibility here.
To me it looks like she left school out of shear embarrassment, or possibly was suspended. she caught that charge at the end of the first semester, that means she should've had a disciplinary hearing at the beginning of the second semester. Did she have that hearing and nobody knows about it? It's very possible, I can see her not telling her family about it, maybe wanting to get away for a week to think about how to break the news to her family that she'd been suspended.
My question is would umass make it public that she got suspended after she went missing? I can see them maybe leaving that little tidbit out once it appeared she was truly missing. Schools can be weird about PR and maybe they chose to kept that Fact quiet because they thought it would make them look bad. Idk, hard to say, but I can't see her not at least being on disciplinary probation.

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Bobjenkins-OG wrote:

Jwb- My opinion on it is that clearly it exists but is rarely, if ever, used in practice.
Apparently that's the official legal term meaning the prosecution dismissed the charges.
From that definition it looks to me like a defendant can't cop to a nolle like they can in other states, but rather that's the prosecution dropping the charges all together.
Im definitely a little confused on the matter because I've had a couple different attorneys tell me that nolle's don't exist in mass, that's why I'm under the impression that they exist but are not generally used in practice.

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citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>May I suggest that you go back and read JWBs postings and my replies to him concerning putting posters up. Nowhere did I ever tell people not to put up posters. There have been people from NH and other areas that not only put posters up but continue to search for Maura to this day. Posters are put up but someone keeps removing them.

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Bobjenkins-OG wrote:

Thanks for posting that jwb. That makes it look like a nolle does exist in mass.
What's weird though is every attorney I've ever spoken to said a nolle doesn't exist in mass.
I'm confused now. In ct in 1997 I got a charge for simple possession of marijuana. I got a nolle on that case, case was thrown out after a year of not getting arrested again.
About 2005, I think it was, an ex-Gf of mine got arrested in Massachusetts. She didn't have the $ for a private attorney so I paid for one for her, freaking $1500 bucks but that's another story. We went and met with 3 attorneys and chose the third one. I specifically asked if we could get the case nolle'd and they all said no, in mass it's called a CWOF. Well two of em said that, I actually asked again because I didn't believe that. Both of them said pretty much the exact same thing:'that doesn't exist, in mass it's called a CWOF'
If it really matters maybe someone should call a Massachusetts attorney and ask because according to all attorneys I've spoken to a nolle doesn exist, well at least they're never used. A mass attorney pretty much described that a CWOF and nolle is interchangeable terms for different states.
I'm talking about how the law is actually used in practice, not the legal definitions. Any lawyer will tell you that in practice the law is very different than what's taught in law school and the only thing that really teaches you how to be a good attorney is practicing it.

Emmett Dove wrote:

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:) lol.. But the part of VA she talking bout, have to hit the Marriot for breakfast! Love the Hamptons!! If ya gonna go2 breakfast & show some1 around.. Give'em somethin 2 remember!! Maybe a murder mystery dinner theater.. A nice Spa.. Manies, pedis, facials, hair... Gotta do it up.. All wit a southern drawl!!!

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Bobjenkins-OG wrote:

Simply sarcasm- was that post by advocate from January or more recent? Im just wondering where it came from.
One thing I can say for sure is that there's no way in hell a grand jury was gonna be called on this case. It was misuse of a credit card under 250$, a misdemeanor.
Grand juries work different in mass as well.
A person gets arrested on something, let's say a major drug charge, and is arraigned in district court. After that point there is what's called a bindover hearing. This is to determine whether the case is worthy of having a grand jury called on it. After that hearing a grand jury is called and the grand jury determines whether to indict someone up into superior court. In mass a person can only be sent to state prison from superior court. District court deals with cases where the sentences are 2.5 years and less where the person will be sent to county jail. Most states any sentence over a yr the person gets sent to prison but mass is different like that too, it's 2.5 yrs, and the person needs to be indicted to superior court for that to happen.
On Maura's charge there is just no way that she would be indicted or even a bindover hearing would be scheduled. There is absolutely no way a grand jury is going to ever be called on what amounts to a petty larceny charge.
If anything Maura was likely running away from the embarrassment. It's been said that the person who's card she used lived in her dorm. That must've been wicked embarrassing for her if she knew that people were talking about it. I can see her wanting to get out of town for a week to try to let people remember how to forget.

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Emmett Dove wrote:

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Nuthin bad brah! Im jus playin! If u cant have a lil laugh n life, no need to live.. But im sure u know what a Nintendo is.. U said u hve kids..

Simply Sarcasm wrote:

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Hair done nail done everything DID #ohyoufancyhuh
I gotta say, Emmett - you do know the 'hood talk, down to the finest nuance.
Nah mean, brah?:)
Here's a fitting reference for the latest line of conversation here - re: snitches -
"A sneak diss - that's that shit I don't like"

JWB wrote:

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Kids nah dude I played nintendo 64 myself till the cows came home lol. I used to sell electronics and remember selling the original pong game prior to Atari and intellivision.I graduated high school the year you were born ha ha ha honest engine!

amy researches wrote:

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I'm still walking around town looking for the Waffle House.

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Simply Sarcasm wrote:

<quoted text>Some of Bill's posts about you are starting to make sense - you run with supposed 'facts' and draw inferences from those false facts - and it's frustrating.

amy researches wrote:

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Yeah, I'm way out in the suburbs but we don't have Waffle House here. At least none I have seen. We have IHOP and Denny's, but they're not as good.

amy researches wrote:

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Yeah, I'm way out in the suburbs but we don't have Waffle House here. At least none I have seen. We have IHOP and Denny's, but they're not as good.

Emmett Dove wrote:

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Ohh cool! Your about 2-4 years older than my brother then.. He had the orignal pong & atari, then the atari 2600! & I hope I didnt make you mad as you could clearly see & read I was playing around.. Atleast I hope..

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amy researches wrote:

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I see what you're saying Jenkins, but didn't RO say she was sure it wasn't temporary plates? I'm not sure on that because I didn't save the posts, so I'm just going off memory. Did you happen to save the old posts? I would like to read them again if you have them.