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Wowzer I don't recall any poster ever being on any trees except for the ribbon tree. All the posters I saw were stapled to telephone poles along rt 112 several years ago. I don't recall any being nailed to any trees, I don't think that's a very big concern.
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Emmett Dove wrote: Facts:
1.. I wasted ur whole nite with the dumb "snitch" thing.. Had u lookin at documents over & over & over like , well.. What u r..
2 ; I wasted your whole night with your "3 months good behavior" theory just laughin.. cus tbh u can get a month of good beahivor in ANY STATE..
3; I was actually 1 of the only ones that still talked to you, & joke with you.. The whole "protection thing" was a damn joke.. It would take the biggest idiot in the world not to see that.. The whole "mafia theory" I was joking with you about..
4; You accuse everyone every week.. Now its the red truck family & the guy with the driveway..
5; you use so many proxies & use so many monikers its not even funny..
6; refer to all of the above..
You actually care what people think of u.. I dont.. Its the internet.. All u worry about is what Bill, FrmLE & others say.. Point - you bring up they names in 90% of ur post.. Also, u claim u hve a gurl at Umass.. U wanna them old dudes that likes'em young huh??? Lmfao Klown!!
I got football to watch.. have fun writing hundred of words & fillin my ego!!! Ok hold on, you wasted my whole night? So your saying that You intentionally were talkin about something you know isn't true just to waste people time? Your really admitting to that? You realize your saying that you were being a troll the other night right? Intentionally saying things you know are wrong to waste people's time? That's crazy your actually admitting to doing it. Besides, You can't really think you wasted anyone's whole night can you? How long do you think it takes to make a few posts? I looked over those papers for a total of like 3-5 mins the whole night. It took about 15 seconds to know those weren't snitch papers and those were case numbers not CI numbers. What do you think I studied the papers all night? Come on dude. And you weren't the one who brought up the 3 mos good behavior thing not sounding right, I brought that up myself. So really you have no idea what your talkin about and now your admitting to being a troll. Dude what's up with that?
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Bobjenkins-OG
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& Emmett I've always been respectful to you, I thought it was a dickhead thing to say this morning when you said that the term nollied sounds like a 'rich white boy tryin to sound hood' I had to point out the completely ridiculous nature of that comment, especially coming from you. I'm sorry I pointed out the obvious that your a white dude that likes to talk 'hood'. It sounds like your saying you actually are a hardened criminal so you probably are 'hard'. I never said you weren't 'hard' or I was. Ok? Your 'hard', I'm not; are you happy now? I could care less about 'hardness' lol. But idk, maybe you shouldn't be so proud of the fact that your a hardened criminal? If being hard involves 3 years in prison in ct and 1.5 in ny then I don't think I wanna be hard. This whole thing is just silly. Nobody on this thread truly talks 'hood', sorry to be the one to point it out. If you wanna see some real 'G-talk' go to that link I posted from topic Holyoke about the gang la familia. It's actually pretty crazy how some of these people talk. Emmett you should be happy you don't speak like them. & you can say a lot of shit about me but you can't say I'm ever trying to 'sound hood', I write the way a speak for the most part, which is clearly like a white boy from new England And the other thing is you don't get sent upstate to prison to 'wait', well very rarely. That's usually only people who have already been in prison upstate. In mass it's called section 56, I think, meaning once you get sectioned and sent to prison the first time, your never supposed to go back to county again, even If your awaiting trial. Didn't you say you were in Meriden anyways? Isn't Meriden a county jail? I don't think that was considered one of the upstate prisons. Anyways, this whole argument is stupid. Nobody here is actually speaking 'hood', the term nollied definitely isn't 'tryin to sound hood'; your 'hard' and I'm not. Ok? Lol, wow
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Dude.. I got pissed cus of the way u worded the whole "ur a white boy from VA - Palermo thing" none of that other crap bothers me.. Do u understand im from a 3'rd world type country????? Im from Mondello!!! Then we came over here & I grew up in Brooklyn & later onward moved to VA.. I dnt give a damn bout bein "hard"... U kno how many jokes culd b made of that??.. I hate bein called a "white boy" cus it didnt work that way growing up.. I had to be this or that, but nah.. Never could fit in with the "white boys"... & I know I dont talk like them Lil Wayne sizzurp sippin people.. I make 2 post askin not to continue this charade & u keep makin them??
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Bobjenkins-OG
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Thats an odd statement; they didn't look east because there were no footprints. Doesn't that imply that there should have been footprints if she went east, as In there was a light dusting of snow on the road. I know it wasnt snowing hard but was there a dusting of snow on the road or not? I've definitely read that in at least on place but I always thought it was just erroneous reporting, but could there have been a light dusting? Idk, saying they didnt look one directions because there 'were no footprints' to me makes it sound like if she went that direction there should have been footprints. Otherwise what are they talkin about? There wouldn't be footprints on the dry asphalt so if that why they didn't search east then thats like a really really bad reason.
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Emmett Dove
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For the love of christ read what I actually said!! I had to wait.. Palermo/Meriden is what that dude "Dago Scum" used.. I had no bond cus i was a "flight risk" I said Whalley Ave.. They let me be but I had no where to go cus no family there.. I sat in a dorm waiting transfered from place to place.. NHCCC to BIg Walker.. If havin a gun makes u a criminal, then most of the USA is 1!!! Its was their law.. Rikers is a whole notha story.. Listen dude.. Ive lived on my own since I was 13... To still be here responding to this is a great statistic.. You honestly think I am going to post my whole history on a message board? I have "ECB" tated cross my throat.. U think I like it?? My hands say "Omerta" & "Facile è Uccidere" .. I had nuthin better 2 do... I told a couple people from here what I really went to prison for & it just wasnt cool.. I didnt do a damn thing wrong in my eyes.. Most people woulda walked by & seen it happen & kept walking... But lock the Dago up & affliate him with all kinds or people.. none of whom are white... get out the military & habus corpus is suspended & get stuk with all of what I said.. & i deserved my freedom!!! I dont have to explain myself to anyone...
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Bobjenkins-OG wrote: How come LE couldn't locate a trail even though conditions were perfect for tracking? someone walking through a couple feet of snow leaves a very noticeable, and big trail? Jenkins. We have firmly established that the things you don't know would fill volumes. I am certain your tracking skills and knowledge are right in line with all the other skills and knowledge you have so aptly displayed. I don't have time to go item after item of all the bullshit that you keep repeating. BUT. Lets put another one of your blivets to rest. WHERE did you hear about the 2 to 2.5 to 3 feet of snow that you keep spouting about? Like she was going to be breaking trail in 3 feet of unconsolidated snow? This had me worried because that is typically not what the February snow is like. I was trying to figure out how it was like this, in 2004, and then it hit me. Its more Jenkins bullshit. You made it up, just like the other things you spouted as fact. There might have been 2 or so feet of snow on the edge of the roads thrown by the plows. What snow there was, was almost certainly, strongly consolidated snow, crusty, hard to break through. Have you ever been in the woods in February? Bill
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Bobjenkins-OG wrote: Wowzer I don't recall any poster ever being on any trees except for the ribbon tree.
All the posters I saw were stapled to telephone poles along rt 112 several years ago. I don't recall any being nailed to any trees, I don't think that's a very big concern. Go back and read my post again. I didn't say that there were posters on the trees (except the ribbon tree). I said if you want to put a poster on a tree it's a good idea to ask permission from the person that owns the land that the tree is on. Notice the word IF. As an experiment why don't you go for a walk with a hammer and some nails and nail some signs to your neighbors trees.Don't tell them that you're going to do it though. Then come back here (if you're able) and let us know the outcome. I'm curious to see if your neighbors will think it's of no concern.
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Go back and read my post again. I didn't say that there were posters on the trees (except the ribbon tree).
I said if you want to put a poster on a tree it's a good idea to ask permission from the person that owns the land that the tree is on. Notice the word IF.
As an experiment why don't you go for a walk with a hammer and some nails and nail some signs to your neighbors trees.Don't tell them that you're going to do it though. Then come back here (if you're able) and let us know the outcome. I'm curious to see if your neighbors will think it's of no concern. Thanks for reminding me. I think you mentioned NOT putting nails in the trees. PLEASE, NO ONE SHOULD BE PUTTING ANY NAILS IN TREES. Even when trees are next to the road, if they fall, if they need to be cut for any reason. A chainsaw coming in contact with a iron nail could be a death sentence for the chainsaw operator and people anywhere nearby. PLEASE DON'T USE NAILS. Bill
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Bobjenkins-OG wrote: Simplysarcasm- I agree with your above post on pretty much every point.
A couple comments on your last paragraph. I'm pretty sure that she didnt have to post any bond, just a promise to appear. I'm not even sure if they made her go to the station. I was kind of under the impression they basically gave her a summons to court, hence the mug shot of sorts being shot in the hallway. Yes, I'm pretty sure that she could get put on two probations at the same time, but they would most likely call one real probation, I can't see them allowing tooth to go from the record.
A DUI would bring those charges back, most likely mass wouldnt have even known about it but she wouldn't have thought that.
This is why I think she dropped her guard and accepted a ride from a stranger. She's freezing cold and someone seemingly nice stops an offers her a ride? She's really gonna say no let me walk through 2.5' of snow into the woods? Do you have any idea how difficult that is and how big of an obvious trail she would've left?
Sbd said on record that he believes she got into one of the cars he saw drive by his house.
LE seems to think that she caught a ride from the immediate area.
Her family definitely said they thought she caught a ride.
Given the conditions she was facing, the clothing she was wearing and her fear of LE, I think her catching a ride is just the most logical, simplest answer to this whole thing.
Once she enters the woods you gotta answer all these questions like how far could she really have made it into the woods? How could she even have done that seeing sneakers and jeans without even gloves? Was she really that stupid to think that walking into the woods in those conditions would be easy? Why didn't she at least bring her gloves with her if she was planning on entering the woods?
How come LE couldn't locate a trail even though conditions were perfect for tracking? someone walking through a couple feet of snow leaves a very noticeable, and big trail? There's all sorts of answers that are brought up by her entering the woods, and it seems like they're simply answered by her accepting a ride. I'm not familiar w/ a promise to appear - I'm assuming that's like a Personal Recognizance Bond (what we have here)/ also called an 'I' bond. Interesting that she was let go with just a promise to appear - is that common? --- In regards to walking into the woods - I think she was in a state of sheer panic. I also think we have evidence to reasonably suggest she was intoxicated. A combination of those two factors can be lethal in the best of circumstances: I think it's feasible that she thought she could hide out and 'wait out' the cops - and that she perished in the woods, maybe getting lost, wandering off too far, etc. I don't think it was a perfectly executed plan of hers (walking into the woods). I think, if it occurred, it was due to a snap decision made. That being said, I'm not completely unswayed by the argument that she may have been picked up by a car. From what I've read on the forums over the past coupla years, I'd suggest it was unlikely that a murderous psychopath just happened to drive past her at the precise time of her susceptibility - but I also don't discount that possibility entirely. I do think it's more likely that she was driving in tandem with another car, and they swooped in, picked her up, and the high-tailed it out of there. I think any of the above are potential possibilities. Therein lies the rub of this whole case.
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Jenkins. We have firmly established that the things you don't know would fill volumes. I am certain your tracking skills and knowledge are right in line with all the other skills and knowledge you have so aptly displayed.
I don't have time to go item after item of all the bullshit that you keep repeating. BUT. Lets put another one of your blivets to rest. WHERE did you hear about the 2 to 2.5 to 3 feet of snow that you keep spouting about? Like she was going to be breaking trail in 3 feet of unconsolidated snow? This had me worried because that is typically not what the February snow is like. I was trying to figure out how it was like this, in 2004, and then it hit me. Its more Jenkins bullshit. You made it up, just like the other things you spouted as fact.
There might have been 2 or so feet of snow on the edge of the roads thrown by the plows. What snow there was, was almost certainly, strongly consolidated snow, crusty, hard to break through. Have you ever been in the woods in February?
Bill If I remember correctly there was a poster here that was buying a house in the immediate area on or very near the day of Maura's accident. She said she could see the grass in the sunny spots while walking around the yard. You are correct Bill. There may be 2 feet of snow on the side of road from the plows but in the woods especially under the pines and spruce there might only be a few inches.
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Jenkins: Are you on Websleuths?(Bill, I know you aren't a fan, but I must admit - I dig it, over there). I honestly think, if you aren't a member, you should join. I'm of the opinion that they would like to read your long posts, and the constant rehashing of each minor point is relished over there. Whenever I go to research some minute detail, I head over to WS - I know they've dissected it to the core. Anyway, just thought I'd let you know. SS
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Awww, hiya, Snowy!!! Long time no Topix!
Want me to catch you up?
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Please don't make me remember all the bad things that have happened in the past 50 pages....
:-) Oh, thanks, but I'll decline the offer. By most accounts, Topix recovery is never complete. The evidence is all around us. Politics, religion and Topix are hot button issues. Glad to see you have taken up residence (Topix account and shamrock)!
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I'm not familiar w/ a promise to appear - I'm assuming that's like a Personal Recognizance Bond (what we have here)/ also called an 'I' bond. Interesting that she was let go with just a promise to appear - is that common?
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In regards to walking into the woods - I think she was in a state of sheer panic. I also think we have evidence to reasonably suggest she was intoxicated. A combination of those two factors can be lethal in the best of circumstances: I think it's feasible that she thought she could hide out and 'wait out' the cops - and that she perished in the woods, maybe getting lost, wandering off too far, etc.
I don't think it was a perfectly executed plan of hers (walking into the woods). I think, if it occurred, it was due to a snap decision made.
That being said, I'm not completely unswayed by the argument that she may have been picked up by a car. From what I've read on the forums over the past coupla years, I'd suggest it was unlikely that a murderous psychopath just happened to drive past her at the precise time of her susceptibility - but I also don't discount that possibility entirely. I do think it's more likely that she was driving in tandem with another car, and they swooped in, picked her up, and the high-tailed it out of there.
I think any of the above are potential possibilities. Therein lies the rub of this whole case. Promise to appear is a “personal recognizance" used in many states and is usually for a first-time minor offense and/or if the person is not a flight risk. I would assume this would be used in Maura's case, wouldn't you?
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Thanks for reminding me. I think you mentioned NOT putting nails in the trees. PLEASE, NO ONE SHOULD BE PUTTING ANY NAILS IN TREES. Even when trees are next to the road, if they fall, if they need to be cut for any reason. A chainsaw coming in contact with a iron nail could be a death sentence for the chainsaw operator and people anywhere nearby. PLEASE DON'T USE NAILS.
Bill Ok you've twisted my arm. I'll stop poking nails into trees. Now I guess I'll have to find a new hobby.
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WTH-the-original wrote: <quoted text>
Jenkins. We have firmly established that the things you don't know would fill volumes. I am certain your tracking skills and knowledge are right in line with all the other skills and knowledge you have so aptly displayed.
I don't have time to go item after item of all the bullshit that you keep repeating. BUT. Lets put another one of your blivets to rest. WHERE did you hear about the 2 to 2.5 to 3 feet of snow that you keep spouting about? Like she was going to be breaking trail in 3 feet of unconsolidated snow? This had me worried because that is typically not what the February snow is like. I was trying to figure out how it was like this, in 2004, and then it hit me. Its more Jenkins bullshit. You made it up, just like the other things you spouted as fact.
There might have been 2 or so feet of snow on the edge of the roads thrown by the plows. What snow there was, was almost certainly, strongly consolidated snow, crusty, hard to break through. Have you ever been in the woods in February?
Bill . I'm not the one who said 2.5, the sbd said it & he lived there. Here's a quote from the south shore express article series "Maura is missing" by Maribeth Conway.: "Atwood recalled when interviewed for this story from his new home in Florida there was as much as two and a half feet of snow on the ground in the area." 2.5' is also mentioned in other early news reports as well, so get your facts straight. Also the snow was NOT crusty like it becomes later in the season when there's thaws and freezes. Scarinza specifically states there was fresh snowfall in the area and the conditions "could not be better for tracking" sgt Bruno also descibes the snow conditioms and says conditions were "perfect of tracking" I've been out in the woods in February in NH many times, it's not like ct. Many times beginning of february there hasn't been a big thaw yet, which creates crusty snow when it freezes over. The snow in the area was actually light and fluffy, perfect for tracking, according to LE and news reports. Also have you ever seen the video of billy walking through the snow covered field in the weeks following her dissapearance? The snow is clearly light and fluffy powder, it's definitely not hard & crusty like the late season snow your describing. It was february, this is still technically early season up NH. Billy is sinking to his knees and clearly having a difficult time walking trough that much snow, he also is leaving a huge trail. So basically everything you just said in your post was bullshit you are spewing from your head that directly contradicts what witnesses, LE and news reports state. Thank you for helping prove my point about what I've been saying about you. You spout bullshit and make it sound good but it's actually just coming from your head, not from any reliable source at all and often contradicts the real facts.
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Oh, thanks, but I'll decline the offer. By most accounts, Topix recovery is never complete. The evidence is all around us. Politics, religion and Topix are hot button issues. Glad to see you have taken up residence (Topix account and shamrock)! Topic recovery is a real pain. Whether you're knee deep in it or detoxing/going through withdrawal symptoms, the debilitating side effects are the same. I'm 99% sure on that fact. ;-)
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Going by the ribbon tree today two things came to mind. IMHO I think it's a waste of time and money to put signs on trees and poles here in the mountains. The newest sign that was put up on the tree is already looking frazzled and someone would have to stop and get out to really see the picture and writing. I imagine it will likely sail off into the woods with this storm that's coming. Another bit of advice (not that it's worth anything) is if you want to put a poster on a tree it's a good idea to ask permission from the person that owns the land that the tree is on. And never use screw or nails to put the sign up.If someone got out of their car and started pounding nails in a tree that I owned without even asking I'd be irate.Eventually it could kill the tree. A stapler does just fine. JMHO First time I ever heard this one, Wowzer. I've nailed wrought iron hangers for bird feeders and plants into trees....oops. Snowy
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Simply Sarcasm wrote: Jenkins:
Are you on Websleuths?(Bill, I know you aren't a fan, but I must admit - I dig it, over there).
I honestly think, if you aren't a member, you should join. I'm of the opinion that they would like to read your long posts, and the constant rehashing of each minor point is relished over there. Whenever I go to research some minute detail, I head over to WS - I know they've dissected it to the core.
Anyway, just thought I'd let you know.
SS I have and do read there once in a while. Less and less over time though. I was a member for a while. I had some of my posts changed by the moronic moderator. I had informed her that wasn't acceptable and if she did it again, I would refuse to post on the site. She did and, I told her to remove my name and posts from her site. She didn't deserve them. 8-) The are allowed to run their site any way they want but thy aren't allowed to change my posts. Haven't regretted it for a second. Same posts as here for the most part. I have seen a couple of people who have some common sense but have also seen some ridiculous posts. Again, not too different from here. The most upsetting post I saw on that site was an idiot who was trying to provoke someone to call the police (not related to Maura at all) on someone who was across the country when the person who witnessed the event was saying that they were not certain of the ID. They kept prodding this poor person to make them call the police when the witness kept trying to convince this idiot that it wasn't the person that was being looked at. There were kids involved that could have been taken from this family because of this accusation that again, the person who was the witness was saying weren't the people. Bill
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Ok you've twisted my arm. I'll stop poking nails into trees. Now I guess I'll have to find a new hobby. Lol, this is a funny ass post Amy, might be kinda hard, nailing trees can be pretty fun... But I don't think any trees were actually nailed anywhere anyways. At the beginning of one of the south shore express articles they describe Fred stapling the bow and missin poster to the blue ribbon tree. So even that one wasn't stapled and that was the only time I've heard of any missing poster being affixed to any tree.
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