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Shack wrote:

To tired to go back to what was said about Maura drinking that night....no proof...maybe it was the
Chief of police in Haverhill..?
And while I am here...Maura a liar..? OR was it SBD...?
For goodness sake...take off the blinders...
Tom C. Christopher G....?
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I hate that swinging a dead cat talk..sickening.

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Bobjenkins-OG wrote:

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When exactly did I say the opposite?
I also don't understand what you said in your messed up post, did I ever say all girls would take that ride?? No, I said most girls would take that ride, which is a fact.
Most girls will take a ride from a stranger if they are stranded, this is definitely a fact I don't see how anyone can even try to debate that.
Yes girls are bombarded with the whole 'strangers are dangerous' thing but that doesn't mean they listen to it when they're stranded. In fact I've never heard if a girl walking miles instead of accepting a ride. Like I said, I've heard many many stories of girls taking rides but I've never ever once in my life heard a girl tell a story about her walking 5 miles because she was scared of being abducted, have you?? If you have, have you heard it more than once?
Sorry it it is a fact that the majority of girls would accept a ride.
What I said about the CRVK is true, these women, and others were attacked when traveling along or near the i91 corridor, same route Maura was tracelling on. These attacks are few and far between though and most girl/people don't even know they happened. When I mention that there was a serial killer in the area to people my age I get utter disbelief.
Even though women do get killed in these situations it's still extremely rare, very very rare. Rare enough to where most girls will take their chances rather than walk miles out of fear, most girls don't want to let fear run their lives.
Most young girls, like Maura, are trusting, everyone thinks it can't or won't happen to them.
As for the quote from Maura's sister it is blatantly obvious that's what she's talking about when she says Maura was too trusting and that's what got her in trouble. What else did she mean that she was too trusting so she walked into the woods?? Seriously, what else could it mean except maybe she walked up to someone's house and that's who killed her.
The family has made no secret of the fact that they believe she got a ride from the wrong person. What else could she mean?

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Then , again, I doubt I could acclimate to the South. They still carry a torch about us Northerners!

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It's interesting that if the cw's sighting happened she was last seen going up a dirt road near 116.

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...into piscies and throw her down an ice fishin hole.

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Emmett Dove wrote:

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Nah... We love Yanks! Now, maybe in deep south Alabama or Mississippi & backwords bastard state West Virginia.. But its a melting pot fulla yanks here.. We even supported that Romeny fella this morning although he started out talking about us "coal miners" & there isnt a coal mine within 4 hours from us & I was already tired cus I arrived at 0643.. we kept quiet looking at each other & a Junior Politcs person (a child from the local middle school) was asked once he figured out we werent coal people, why didnt anyone speak up, funniest reply of the whole thing "Sir, we are raised not to interrupt people, even if they dont know what they are talking about..."
Ive never seen a "Bob House" unless there like the "Out Houses" still used in West VA.. The birds fly upside down in that state..

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Bobjenkins-OG wrote:

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Yes there are ice fishing shanties right near by on French pond which is, obviously, right down french pond road.
This is one of the places sbd went to go check, French pond. There was a quote I read where he mentioned that kids hung out down there sometimes and he wanted to check the shanties, or something to that effect.
This is one thing that always makes me think that he knew more than he was saying. If he's looking for some girl from mass why would he possibly think she knows where French pond is or that there would be ice fishing shanties to hide in? Idk, but to me that doesn't sound like the place to look if you think some out of town girl went walking somewhere. Why go check French pond but not drive east? French pond isn't the place to look if your looking for an out of town girl that's on foot, imo, that's where you look if you think she's with a local who's trying to hide her.
They don't check east but they check fishing shanties on French pond?? Weird behavior if your lookin for an out of town girl on foot.

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Bobjenkins-OG wrote:

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It's interesting that if the cw's sighting happened she was last seen going up a dirt road near 116. This is exactly where Floyd lived, who was a sick bastard that claimed to have killed 17 people. We know he was too young for Vietnam so who are all these people he killed?? It's easy to write off as crazy talk by a sick individual but seeing his complete lack of any emotion after killing liko kenney is chilling to say the least. He was heard laughing and joking about it. I'm sorry but people who are forced to kill someone else, even if they know they're in the right, feel bad about doing it; often experiencing PTSD and other long lasting effects. This guy just didn't give a fuck, like a true psychopath.
Idk if I believe cw's sighting but even if it's wrong this guy clearly should be eliminated as a suspect. It's been said that this guy had a scanner and he definitely lived right there. At the very least He would've known that there was a young girl with mass plates out broken down on the side of the road. it's also been said that he would impersonate being a police officer, often acting as unofficial 'backup' for McKay.
LE did at least one search of his property, I believe two. So to be fair he may have been eliminated as a suspect, they're not saying either way.

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Bobjenkins-OG wrote:

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When exactly did I say the opposite?
I also don't understand what you said in your messed up post, did I ever say all girls would take that ride?? No, I said most girls would take that ride, which is a fact.
Most girls will take a ride from a stranger if they are stranded, this is definitely a fact I don't see how anyone can even try to debate that.
Yes girls are bombarded with the whole 'strangers are dangerous' thing but that doesn't mean they listen to it when they're stranded. In fact I've never heard if a girl walking miles instead of accepting a ride. Like I said, I've heard many many stories of girls taking rides but I've never ever once in my life heard a girl tell a story about her walking 5 miles because she was scared of being abducted, have you?? If you have, have you heard it more than once?
Sorry it it is a fact that the majority of girls would accept a ride.
What I said about the CRVK is true, these women, and others were attacked when traveling along or near the i91 corridor, same route Maura was tracelling on. These attacks are few and far between though and most girl/people don't even know they happened. When I mention that there was a serial killer in the area to people my age I get utter disbelief.
Even though women do get killed in these situations it's still extremely rare, very very rare. Rare enough to where most girls will take their chances rather than walk miles out of fear, most girls don't want to let fear run their lives.
Most young girls, like Maura, are trusting, everyone thinks it can't or won't happen to them.
As for the quote from Maura's sister it is blatantly obvious that's what she's talking about when she says Maura was too trusting and that's what got her in trouble. What else did she mean that she was too trusting so she walked into the woods?? Seriously, what else could it mean except maybe she walked up to someone's house and that's who killed her.
The family has made no secret of the fact that they believe she got a ride from the wrong person. What else could she mean?

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Wowzer the real one wrote:

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I've never read anywhere that he said he went to check the pond or the shanties. I don't think that's true and if you can provide a link where he said that it would be great.
As I said earlier Mountain Lakes (French Pond) is mostly second homes owned by people from MA, CT and RI. It makes perfect sense that a driver from MA might be walking back to their home if they went off the road.That would be the first place I'd look for an out of state driver that left their vehicle.

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Ridiculous wrote:

Most Bob houses are locked, however, Redneck etiquette dictates that you do not enter one without permission whether it is locked or not. It is also against Redneck code to chum with any discarded human corpses. If one does this, word will get around and you and your Bob House will be forcibly removed from the ice, dismissed from the fraternity, have all of your alcohol confiscated,and labeled an inappropriate chummer.

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OKAY wrote:

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Not interesting; old news. The concept was previously introduced, debated, and discarded. More importantly, LE is well aware of all the dyamics associated with the history of Floyd/Kenney/McKay. For the record, McKay was murdered by Liko Kenney; citizen murdered cop by gunfire; not the other way around.
Bad Blood is a compilation of cherry-picked assertions.
That said, the most accurate article about the subject, IMO, was written by a Boston publication. I don't recall the author at this moment.
To smear the SBD or McKay posthumously is to be unconscienably ignorant. Neither of you making these claims is sufficiently knowledgable.
The connection to Maura is unsupported and irrelevant if one has fully studied the subject.

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Wowzer the real one wrote:

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Bob said:***it's also been said that he would impersonate being a police officer, often acting as unofficial 'backup' for McKay.
LE did at least one search of his property, I believe two.***
As far as I know none of this is true. Show us a link to this information. Thanks
Bob your really not helping by making up a bunch of crap but it is quite entertaining to read over coffee. But you need to back up your words if you intend to blame a person for harming Maura.

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Pointless Endeavor wrote:

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I've never read these 'facts' anywhere either or the 'fact' that CW clearly identified the "youth" seen running on the side of the road.

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OKAY wrote:

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If you and Bill weren't around, these factoids would take on a life of their own, and the story of Maura's disappearance would be a fanciful compilation of this lore. If you have the patience, you can monitor this "stuff" for years to come!