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OKAY wrote:
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I visited Websleuths only once. The genesis of the conspiracy fixation seems to lie with the poster you've just responded to, Amy. This drama began well before my arrival and yours, but is sustained by the air of mystery that fills the empty spaces while everyone waits for an additional clue, a real clue, as to Maura's disappearance. Maura is not a deity, nor is she an object of worship, except to some. She is a missing person like so many others that deserve the attention and concern of the public.
My gut feeling is that any legitimate concerns about posters here potentially being Maura's killer would have been taken to law enforcement by now. If, in fact, the goal of the people with these
concerns is to find Maura. Instead, it seems that these people would rather post thousands of pages for many many years about their
Topix-poster-conspiracy theories rather than let LE investigate their concerns. I find this odd. Same way I found it odd that when a few posters were going on and on about NH law enforcement being corrupt and covering up Maura's murder, and I suggested they contact the FBI since the FBI would be the proper authority to investigate such a thing, that these posters refused to do so. They instead threw peanuts at me. While peanuts make a nice snack for me and Wowzer's squirrel, I
fail to see how this type of nonsense that goes on here contributes in any way to finding Maura. Makes me wonder what their "hidden agenda"
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Lady Gray wrote:
I have to say that the person who got away with this has to be one smooth guy.....its been a lot if years.
Really? I never attribute great skill, cunning and intelligence to things that can easily be explained as just plain old dumb luck. He doesn't need to be a criminal mastermind, he could just be lucky. If I thought that was what happened. And there is of course no proof, not a shred of evidence that is what happened.

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Lady Gray wrote:
I mostly read and rarely comment, these days, cuz as u have noticed, its next to impossible to have any discussions going the abduction route.
I will say, however, that I myself wouldnt catch a ride with someone. Most likely cuz I am married to law enforcement in addition to it being in my immediate family and am well aware of whats out there. I should note we arent in the area.
I have to say that the person who got away with this has to be one smooth guy.....its been a lot if years. And, while ur posts are long, I do take time to read them cuz I think you are "spot on."
I like Jenkins as a person. Besides a couple of shots at LE i think he is a decent person.
To say he is "spot on" would be like using a handgrenade in a hostage dispute on an airplane that's leaking fuel and flying 5 miles above the earth. Sure it could work, but maybe other alternatives should be investigated.

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amy researches wrote:
<quoted text>Topix-poster-conspirac y theories rather than let LE investigate their concerns. I find this odd. Same way I found it odd that when a few posters were going on and on about NH law enforcement being corrupt and covering up Maura's murder, and I suggested they contact the FBI since the FBI would be the proper authority to investigate such a thing, that these posters refused to do so.
Oh Amy. Years before you got here we went on and on and on about that. Several of us told them that if they didn't trust the local police to go to the SP if they didn't trust them go to the AG. If they thought they were corrupt to go to the US attorney general or the FBI or news outlets with your suspicions. Nope, no matter what avenues were offered there was just no way that this could be done. All those "powers that be". The "bigwigs, the upper crust" don't you know. And "poor, poor little me. Whatever could I do"? Everyone, everywhere were untrustworthy.

I mean if the FBI could examine and bring indictments to the Philadelphia police department, I wonder how difficult it would be to do if there was wrongdoing in Haverhill, NH?

What an enormous load of crap. Nope, its more fun to accuse and blame everyone in an area like that with no proof of anything, as was done for years.

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Bobjenkins-OG wrote:
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LMAO!!! Hilarious!!
How much you wanna bet that's pretty much exactly how that conversation went too?
I wouldn't bet money on it. Laugh all you want Bobby but threats of harm, trying to find a posters name and physical address on an internet forum or spreading someone's identity and personal information on a public forum is not taken lightly anymore. There's been too many woman and yes even children that have been tracked down by some sicko on an internet forum and have met with harm. So I doubt LE will laugh or think someone is wasting their time if a legitimate concern is voiced to them.

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Granny M wrote:
Snowey: hello Apple my name is Mrs snowey
Apple: yes Mrs Snowey how may I help you?
Snowey: my mobile device keeps showing I am somewhere I am not.
Apple: sorry about your problem Mrs Snowey, we will send a technician over to you house as soon as we can.
Snowey: what do I do in the meantime? This guy Jenky thinks I am in California when I am not.
Apple: Sorry mrs Snowey, Just take a deep breath and explain to jenky that it is a technical difficulty and Apple is on its way.
Snowey: Thank you Mr Apple! Did I tell you that my favorite moniker was shat on?
Apple: Good day Mrs Snowey and sorry about your favorite moniker.
Why is it that you usually only show up to either jump into a disagreement and fan the fire or make fun of other posters. That's a troll in my book.

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amy researches wrote:
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I agree. That's why I think LE would check these folks out. If they were checking folks out on websleuths then I think they would check out posters here too. But if anyone is concerned and thinks that LE hasn't checked out these posters, then I would recommend contacting CCU to suggest that they do so.
I'd bet money that LE is keeping an eye on any forums pertaining to Maura and others that are missing as they should. Just because we don't hear what the LE is doing doesn't mean that nothing is being done.
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OKAY wrote:
Where's Waldo? It's Topix on the go. Thinking of you, Jenks, as I enjoy an exceptional cicken salad sandwich in MA. Let's see if the damn thing matches up. Do I need your permission to leave Gloucester? Sorry to disappoint but I didn't blow away in the storm.
Yes, you understand me correctly, Jenky. LYAO, but I take offense at improprieties and threats, and act appropriately on them rather than retaliating in kind.
Lol, why would I want you to blow away in the storm? I said clearly that while people disagree with each other often I don't think anyone was wishing anyone to come to harm in a natural disaster. The absolute last thing I would ever wish I harm upon another innocent human being.

But I feel like I must've missed something while I was gone this summer, there were people threatening you?
If someone was threatening your personal safety then yes you should of went to LE, but when did that happen? Ive read through most of the posts while I was gone and I don't recall seeing threats. Did topix delete them?

I've seen some stupid shit said on these threads but very little that's come close to any actual threats. Aren't we here to try to see what happened to a missing girl?
Could you maybe please explain what exactly your talkin about cuz I'm really confused.

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Wowzer the real one wrote:
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I wouldn't bet money on it. Laugh all you want Bobby but threats of harm, trying to find a posters name and physical address on an internet forum or spreading someone's identity and personal information on a public forum is not taken lightly anymore. There's been too many woman and yes even children that have been tracked down by some sicko on an internet forum and have met with harm. So I doubt LE will laugh or think someone is wasting their time if a legitimate concern is voiced to them.
I agree completely.
But I hope your not talking about me here. I've never threatened anyone with harm to their person, not in the slightest bit.
I've also never threatened to 'out' anyone, find out anyone's personal info, spread it on a board or anything even close to that; I won't even use sbd's or cw's real initials in posts and was pretty shocked when I came back early this year and saw people throwing their real names and initials around on topix. Back on the original MM forums nobody ever used anyone's real names or initials, ever.

So yes, If a person is threatening someone then it shouldn't be taken lightly, but who the hell is threatening anyone? I'm confused...
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Oh Amy. Years before you got here we went on and on and on about that. Several of us told them that if they didn't trust the local police to go to the SP if they didn't trust them go to the AG. If they thought they were corrupt to go to the US attorney general or the FBI or news outlets with your suspicions. Nope, no matter what avenues were offered there was just no way that this could be done. All those "powers that be". The "bigwigs, the upper crust" don't you know. And "poor, poor little me. Whatever could I do"? Everyone, everywhere were untrustworthy.
I mean if the FBI could examine and bring indictments to the Philadelphia police department, I wonder how difficult it would be to do if there was wrongdoing in Haverhill, NH?
What an enormous load of crap. Nope, its more fun to accuse and blame everyone in an area like that with no proof of anything, as was done for years.
Bill
Thank you, you've saved me some energy in composing a reply to Amy's good post, as I agree with both of you.
It's like the hook (Maura is the poor victim of....violence? abduction? suicide? runaway? taking leave?) and then the noose....(oh! you're here on websleuths or Topix...so you must be involved or have participated in her disappearance). Stinkin thinkin.
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Lol, why would I want you to blow away in the storm? I said clearly that while people disagree with each other often I don't think anyone was wishing anyone to come to harm in a natural disaster. The absolute last thing I would ever wish I harm upon another innocent human being.
But I feel like I must've missed something while I was gone this summer, there were people threatening you?
If someone was threatening your personal safety then yes you should of went to LE, but when did that happen? Ive read through most of the posts while I was gone and I don't recall seeing threats. Did topix delete them?
I've seen some stupid shit said on these threads but very little that's come close to any actual threats. Aren't we here to try to see what happened to a missing girl?
Could you maybe please explain what exactly your talkin about cuz I'm really confused.
& I hope you enjoyed your chicken sandwich
The issue has been handled, and I consider it off-topic to rehash.

Tell me this, Jenkins, given the number of people, including myself, that have tried to explain to you how long, redundant posts, often containing opinions stated as fact defeat the flow of positive interactions and conversation, can you at least admit to hearing the constructive criticism being offered at any level?

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Bobjenkins-OG wrote:
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Wanna talk about creepy?
How about bill explaining how to put a put a body through a wood chipper and then putting it into ziplock bags and putting it through an ice fishing hole!! That's disgusting and freaky that anybody would go into that much detail. Not The first time either, there's been many times he's gone off on a tangent about ways to dispose of bodies. It's weird and gross. But that's fine with you wowzer.
How about when beagle posted the video of the Bretton woods pass from the 11th?? He put himsel in the area at the time of her dissapearance, you were fine with that. you were fine with him implying he had something to do with her dissapearance.
It is now confirmed, your a complete and total liar. Your not interested in the truth, your interested in distracting the conversation and contradicting anything that indicates she got killed. You want this conversation to end, unless is talkin about how drunk she was or how far Into the woods she could've gotten. It's ridiculous. It's become so obvious that you are trying to divert the convo.
The q I have is why?? Why the hell do you care so much? Who are you tryin to cover for? Are you even a woman?? Are you covering for a family member who you think or know did it? Maybe a cop that you know?? Your clearly tryin to cover for someone or something. I would say your in denial but your well beyond that, your trying to cover something up. Seeing you imply that maybe I had something to do with it just makes it clearer than ever, you'll try any tactic you can to divert attention and try to ruin the discussion.
Your a flat out liar and you know it as well as I, it's just getting ridiculous now.
who the hell are you covering for? Why are you trying to end this conversation by any means neccesary??
If you think that I'm at all afraid of LE looking st me for this case then you got another thing coming. Only thing Is that I'm absolutely positive that is never going to happen. LE could look at me for 30 seconds and know I have nothin to do with it. I'm sure LE figured out who I was bak in 04, just like everyone else on the MM forum
This is just the weakest tactic yet and rather dishonest. I'd say it was the most dishonest but pretty much all the other tactics involved you lying really bad so it's hard to say.
It's not ginna work, I'm not gonna stop posting, especially bc some weirdo liar who cares more about women beaters, scumbag cops, liars, and even front lawns more than they care about a young girl who went missing in their own backyard, within eye sight of the house, who probably got murdered.
Why are you guys trying so hard to make people think she's simply in the woods? What do you get out of it?? Are you even a woman??
Well Bob I'm going to let you ponder over some of your questions because I don't have to answer to you. Simple as that.
I will say that some here that have posted for a long while know why I am here and it's certainly not to cover for anyone. I have said in the past that if someone around here did Maura any harm then I would hope that they would be caught and punished to the fullest extent of the law. My problem with that is that I truly don't believe it was anyone around this area. Could I be wrong? Of course.
You can thank shack for my becoming an active poster on Topix. I watched my area (which I am a part of) be bashed near to death. The people were insulted, the area was insulted, HPD was insulted and even the NHSP were insulted. Near everyone that tried to help in some way was dragged through the mud. I did take her bashing personally since I was part of what she was bashing. I continue today to stand up for myself,my area and and the LE that have worked so hard on this case and, make it a safer place so I can go to sleep at night and feel protected.
Now why are you here?

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I agree completely.
But I hope your not talking about me here. I've never threatened anyone with harm to their person, not in the slightest bit.
I've also never threatened to 'out' anyone, find out anyone's personal info, spread it on a board or anything even close to that; I won't even use sbd's or cw's real initials in posts and was pretty shocked when I came back early this year and saw people throwing their real names and initials around on topix. Back on the original MM forums nobody ever used anyone's real names or initials, ever.
So yes, If a person is threatening someone then it shouldn't be taken lightly, but who the hell is threatening anyone? I'm confused...
All you need to know is that it wasn't you. At least I don't think so.

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Granny M wrote:
officer: Hello Mrs snowey, I went checking on topix and I couldn't find your moniker (Snowey).
Snowey: Oh thank you officer but I am OKAY
officer: I am glad you are OKAY. You didn't seem okay just a few minutes ago.
Snowey: officer you don't understand, My moniker is OKAY on topix.
Officer: Again Mrs Snowey, I am glad your favorite moniker is OKAY now. Good day Mrs snowey.
Hey, JWB, that's funny. Glad you're back. Why don't you log back in under your usual identity? Which ever one that is.
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Bobjenkins-OG wrote:
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Lol, why would I want you to blow away in the storm? I said clearly that while people disagree with each other often I don't think anyone was wishing anyone to come to harm in a natural disaster. The absolute last thing I would ever wish I harm upon another innocent human being.
But I feel like I must've missed something while I was gone this summer, there were people threatening you?
If someone was threatening your personal safety then yes you should of went to LE, but when did that happen? Ive read through most of the posts while I was gone and I don't recall seeing threats. Did topix delete them?
I've seen some stupid shit said on these threads but very little that's come close to any actual threats. Aren't we here to try to see what happened to a missing girl?
Could you maybe please explain what exactly your talkin about cuz I'm really confused.
& I hope you enjoyed your chicken sandwich
The issue has been handled, and I consider it off-topic to rehash. Keeping the focus on Maura, yes?

Tell me this, Jenkins, given the number of people, including myself, that have tried to explain to you how long, redundant posts, often containing opinions stated as fact defeat the flow of positive interactions and conversation, can you at least admit to hearing the constructive criticism being offered at any level?

(this may appear as a double post....apologies in advance)
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Wowzer the real one wrote:
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Well Bob I'm going to let you ponder over some of your questions because I don't have to answer to you. Simple as that.
I will say that some here that have posted for a long while know why I am here and it's certainly not to cover for anyone. I have said in the past that if someone around here did Maura any harm then I would hope that they would be caught and punished to the fullest extent of the law. My problem with that is that I truly don't believe it was anyone around this area. Could I be wrong? Of course.
You can thank shack for my becoming an active poster on Topix. I watched my area (which I am a part of) be bashed near to death. The people were insulted, the area was insulted, HPD was insulted and even the NHSP were insulted. Near everyone that tried to help in some way was dragged through the mud. I did take her bashing personally since I was part of what she was bashing. I continue today to stand up for myself,my area and and the LE that have worked so hard on this case and, make it a safer place so I can go to sleep at night and feel protected.
Now why are you here?
And so we always return to full circle. Truth.
Well said, Wowzer.

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Hey, JWB, that's funny. Glad you're back. Why don't you log back in under your usual identity? Which ever one that is.
I wondered about that. LOL
Maybe he'll return again as mall cop.

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OKAY wrote:
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And so we always return to full circle. Truth.
Well said, Wowzer.
Yes we do. We've gone around that circle many times.
Thanks.
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Bob,

I will say this; I took a few swings at you and you responded without swinging back. Props to you for handling it as you did. I actually agree with some of your theories and opinions it just so much work trying to dig the nuggets out of all of the silt!
I ask you about mania because in all honesty, as Bill said, there does seem to be a pattern of escalation on your part of repetitiveness and you are getting a little more bizarre. I am very familiar with Bi-polar behavior and if you have any issues along those lines, I do suggest talking with someone. I can't get anyone to discuss Beagles melt down here, not sure why, but, if one goes back to the beginning of this forum and follows all of his posts,it's an obvious slow grinding train wreck. Just concerned that you are following a similar pattern.

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But I feel like I must've missed something while I was gone this summer, there were people threatening you?
May I call you Jenky? you can call me Granny

Remember your post to Wowzer about her over exaggerating and being a liar on this forum? Well, Snowey and Wowzer are cut from the same cloth.

The reason you don't remember any threatening is because it didn't happen. Their concept of threatening was when JWB asked Wowzer if she saw the accident from her house. No address or name given just a question. Does that sound threatening to you? It is far less harmful than Wowzer saying that she needs to lock the doors because you drive the area.

Yep- When ever they are asked to back a statement up with facts they just can't do it because it doesn't exist.

Absolutely absurd and pathetic behavior like kindergardners whining about the boys taking their sand bucket and pail away at recess.

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