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OKAY wrote:
<quoted text>I subscribe to KISS
Everyone should realize that the KISS principle is mostly just a restating of Occam's razor. Think about it.

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Bobjenkins-OG wrote:
Amy- you said there's no tangible benefit as it would only draw attention from LE.
I got a question:
Do you think that LE has looked closely at posters like wowzer, bill, snowy and frmLE?
These people are clearly trying to convince people that no crime took place and arguably trying to end the conversations about Maura.
Do you think that this caused LE to take a look at them?
I'm not sure at all but I would think that LE most likely at least knows these people's names and here they live and if they have any potential connection to the case, if they're not posting truly anonymously that Is
Well I would sure hope so at least, just like I would think that they would probably know who I am from back on the original MN forum. I always assumed that bak then they wanted to know who the people posting on that forum were
I would hope that LE would check out anyone who spends that much time posting on a forum about a missing person. Including me and you.

I understand what you're saying about the forums keeping Maura's name out there, and that's a good point that I agree with.

Here's what I mean about no tangible benefit. Let's say for example that Bill killed Maura and he's been posting this silly into-the-woods theory here for 8 years trying to get the conversation to stop. Well first of all he's not doing a very good job, as people are still here talking - no benefit to him. Secondly, Bill's gonna have to spend a lot of time at websleuths and a bunch of other sites also, since this is not the only place people discuss Maura - again, no benefit to Bill, as shutting down all conversation is impossible and oops, now he has attracted your attention and findmaura's. Now, if you two grew suspicious thinking "I wonder why this guy spends so much time here posting his into-the-woods theory and being mean to us," then don't you think LE might have thought that at some point also and looked into Bill? I would sure hope so.

But if there is any real concern that someone posting here is the killer, then maybe give the CCU a call with these concerns. If someone posting here is the killer, then I'd think that would be a great break for the guys trying to solve this case. Just a suggestion.

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WTH-the-original wrote:
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Oh yeah. With the leg sticking out when the cop came up. That was a really good movie. Have watched it several times. Forgot about that though.
And I have read that the mob also used welded up 55 gallon drums with holes punched in them. They report that was highly effective, especially when dropped off in the ocean. People never seen again. Thank goodness Haverhill isn't too close to the ocean or we would be barking up those scenarios also.
Oops, back to work.
Bill
Yea, thats it! I love that movie but it said "based on true events" & the Cohen Bros, the ones who made it, came out & said it was a lie, so it dissapointed me because I really like the movies thats based on true stuff...

People mite not believe you, but I know for a FACT that woodchippers are used all over.. All you have to do is catch a few episodes of most of the ID network shows & Ive seen several of them talking about woodchippers! I also know from reading the news paper that they have been used down south..

& also, Ive read the whole mob stuff & they puncture the lungs, stuff'em in a sealed drum & off in the Hudson they go..

Idk how big that pond is that everyone is talking about up yonder but most ponds arent that big & Im sure if they thought it was involved they would have drug the pond.. But I also have no clue about ice fishing or bob houses.. Thats one thing that I know none of my friends have ever done is ice fishing.. I heard it was fun from google but its hard for me to make a theory about something I have no personal experiance with..

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amy researches wrote:
<quoted text>"I wonder why this guy spends so much time here posting his into-the-woods theory and being mean to us," then don't you think LE might have thought that at some point also and looked into Bill? I would sure hope so.
Me too, should take a minute to clear me. As I remember, I was in CT at the time.

No indictment for me. So, I wasn't the one waiting in "the other car" when Maura crashed her car while drinking. And while my wife is pretty (kinda of looks like a young Sally Fields), she looks nothing like Maura. I also wasn't driving the red truck so, phew, I'm easy to clear.
amy researches wrote:
<quoted text>Let's say for example that Bill killed Maura and he's been posting this silly into-the-woods theory here for 8 years trying to get the conversation to stop.
And what do you mean by "silly" theory? 8-)

And of course I am not interested in stopping the conversation. I just get disturbed when idiots make up shit and try to drive the train off of the sanity rails.

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Jenky,
Maybe it's just the fact that you have taken over this forum and the volume of your posts is hard to wade through.You do tend to be repetitive and very long winded! People have told you so many times yet you go on and on and on. You are basically saying " F you I'll talk as much as I like" It's exhausting to be in one of these types of conversations. I don't disagree with some of your opinions, but, I get offended at your lack of ability listen when you are told it's just to much. It's actually so bad that not only am I unable to appreciate when you do make a valid point, but, I look forward to Bill or whoever else is up to it slapping you around a little. It's like a physical attack. first you become defensive then as it goes on you become offensive then you you just want to beat the offender into a bloody pulp! Try this simple principle of sales people. KISS---Keep It Simple Stupid.
Ridiculy- you make some good points for sure.

Th only thing is that my first posts on this forum early this year were not attacks at all, and I got attacked personally after like my third post here. It's ridiculous the lack of civility some of these posters employ.
I know that people try to turn it aroun on me like I'm the one being argumentative but that's total bullshit. I kept my post civil with these people for the longest time and still do with everyone who is respectful. I know that sounds childish but like you said it gets really frustrating conversing with these people. They are the most argumentative, rudest and just plain nasty people on any forum over ever seen anywhere, by far. I don't think anyone can disagree with that.
and I really am gonna try my hardest to just ignore them and not get into it with these people anymore.
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Sweet, Sweet Darling, I absolutely provided my personal contact information directly to authorities when I filed complaints about Topix posters, as recently as several months ago. Just so you know.
Lol, well I would sure hope that you would if you filed a complaint.
And let me get this straight....you filed a complaint with authorities about topix posters??? Lol
To what effect?? What was your complaint "people are being mean to me"??
And aren't you in Gloucester? Who did you complain to the NHSP?? I'm sure they really did A LOT about that complaint. Lol, come on! You files complaints with authorities?! Wtf r they ginna do about a message board??
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WTH-the-original wrote:
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Everyone should realize that the KISS principle is mostly just a restating of Occam's razor. Think about it.
Last thought, see you later,
Bill
I don't refute that for a minute! That's why some of the more contrived imaginings don't cut the mustard. Look, first, for what makes sense because it is obvious and connected.

Lunch and Topix. Like Simply Sarcasm.
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amy researches wrote:
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I would hope that LE would check out anyone who spends that much time posting on a forum about a missing person. Including me and you.
I understand what you're saying about the forums keeping Maura's name out there, and that's a good point that I agree with.
Here's what I mean about no tangible benefit. Let's say for example that Bill killed Maura and he's been posting this silly into-the-woods theory here for 8 years trying to get the conversation to stop. Well first of all he's not doing a very good job, as people are still here talking - no benefit to him. Secondly, Bill's gonna have to spend a lot of time at websleuths and a bunch of other sites also, since this is not the only place people discuss Maura - again, no benefit to Bill, as shutting down all conversation is impossible and oops, now he has attracted your attention and findmaura's. Now, if you two grew suspicious thinking "I wonder why this guy spends so much time here posting his into-the-woods theory and being mean to us," then don't you think LE might have thought that at some point also and looked into Bill? I would sure hope so.
But if there is any real concern that someone posting here is the killer, then maybe give the CCU a call with these concerns. If someone posting here is the killer, then I'd think that would be a great break for the guys trying to solve this case. Just a suggestion.
If we look at the posts from websleuths, that were within the pages of interest to LE, we can see that some particular member(s) went to great time and debate to prove their theory that Maura ran away. To further that, any proposed theory by other members , some of which were family, were subjected to intense ridicule.

I don't see how it's much different from what continues here on this forum.

Is it merely factions of belief of what happened to Maura, or is it more than that?

IMO, it's not out of the question that this forum could play a great role in the mind of a serial killer.

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Lol, well I would sure hope that you would if you filed a complaint.
And let me get this straight....you filed a complaint with authorities about topix posters??? Lol
To what effect?? What was your complaint "people are being mean to me"??
And aren't you in Gloucester? Who did you complain to the NHSP?? I'm sure they really did A LOT about that complaint. Lol, come on! You files complaints with authorities?! Wtf r they ginna do about a message board??
Snowey: Excuse me officer, but I have a complaint about a message board.
Officer: What is it Mrs Snowey?

Snowey: There are posters that are doing their own private investigations.

Officer: Really Mrs Snowey now you can't really be wasting my valuable time about that are you? This is a missing person case and folks are going to want to help solve and discuss the case right?

Snowey: Sorry officer but I am really scared and one poster actually shat on my favorite moniker.

officer: Mrs Snowey , I am sorry that your favorite moniker got shat on. I suggest that you learn to get along with others and stop wasting my time. Good day Mrs Snowey
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Where's Waldo? It's Topix on the go. Thinking of you, Jenks, as I enjoy an exceptional cicken salad sandwich in MA. Let's see if the damn thing matches up. Do I need your permission to leave Gloucester? Sorry to disappoint but I didn't blow away in the storm.
Yes, you understand me correctly, Jenky. LYAO, but I take offense at improprieties and threats, and act appropriately on them rather than retaliating in kind.
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You're right, Emmett, it's difficult to reply from a mobile device which hops around. I remember our Swedish and Bermuda posters in the Blackberry days. It seemed doubtful those locales were random.
I'm sorry to know your Topix initiation and experience was so unpleasant. The dynamics had evolved from complicated to intensely obnoxious around that time. The fix has been in direct and honest communication.:)

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Snowey: hello Apple my name is Mrs snowey

Apple: yes Mrs Snowey how may I help you?

Snowey: my mobile device keeps showing I am somewhere I am not.

Apple: sorry about your problem Mrs Snowey, we will send a technician over to you house as soon as we can.

Snowey: what do I do in the meantime? This guy Jenky thinks I am in California when I am not.

Apple: Sorry mrs Snowey, Just take a deep breath and explain to jenky that it is a technical difficulty and Apple is on its way.

Snowey: Thank you Mr Apple! Did I tell you that my favorite moniker was shat on?

Apple: Good day Mrs Snowey and sorry about your favorite moniker.

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mcsmom wrote:
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If we look at the posts from websleuths, that were within the pages of interest to LE, we can see that some particular member(s) went to great time and debate to prove their theory that Maura ran away. To further that, any proposed theory by other members , some of which were family, were subjected to intense ridicule.
I don't see how it's much different from what continues here on this forum.
Is it merely factions of belief of what happened to Maura, or is it more than that?
IMO, it's not out of the question that this forum could play a great role in the mind of a serial killer.
I agree. That's why I think LE would check these folks out. If they were checking folks out on websleuths then I think they would check out posters here too. But if anyone is concerned and thinks that LE hasn't checked out these posters, then I would recommend contacting CCU to suggest that they do so.

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officer: Hello Mrs snowey, I went checking on topix and I couldn't find your moniker (Snowey).

Snowey: Oh thank you officer but I am OKAY

officer: I am glad you are OKAY. You didn't seem okay just a few minutes ago.

Snowey: officer you don't understand, My moniker is OKAY on topix.

Officer: Again Mrs Snowey, I am glad your favorite moniker is OKAY now. Good day Mrs snowey.

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WTH-the-original wrote:
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Me too, should take a minute to clear me. As I remember, I was in CT at the time.
No indictment for me. So, I wasn't the one waiting in "the other car" when Maura crashed her car while drinking. And while my wife is pretty (kinda of looks like a young Sally Fields), she looks nothing like Maura. I also wasn't driving the red truck so, phew, I'm easy to clear.
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And what do you mean by "silly" theory? 8-)
And of course I am not interested in stopping the conversation. I just get disturbed when idiots make up shit and try to drive the train off of the sanity rails.
Bill
I think the sanity train crashed and burned long before I arrived here.

And just to be clear, I only used you as an example because I figured you would be the least likely to be offended. Your wife sounds kinda hot though. Maybe you'd better have her call me, ya know, as a character reference. ;-)
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Jenkins, I hope I didnt offend you and I apologize if I did. Its just that my "hinky meter" went up with the discussions taking place.

And, I havent said this to you but I also am of the opinion that she was abducted..
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I mostly read and rarely comment, these days, cuz as u have noticed, its next to impossible to have any discussions going the abduction route.

I will say, however, that I myself wouldnt catch a ride with someone. Most likely cuz I am married to law enforcement in addition to it being in my immediate family and am well aware of whats out there. I should note we arent in the area.

I have to say that the person who got away with this has to be one smooth guy.....its been a lot if years. And, while ur posts are long, I do take time to read them cuz I think you are "spot on."
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amy researches wrote:
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I agree. That's why I think LE would check these folks out. If they were checking folks out on websleuths then I think they would check out posters here too. But if anyone is concerned and thinks that LE hasn't checked out these posters, then I would recommend contacting CCU to suggest that they do so.
I visited Websleuths only once. The genesis of the conspiracy fixation seems to lie with the poster you've just responded to, Amy. This drama began well before my arrival and yours, but is sustained by the air of mystery that fills the empty spaces while everyone waits for an additional clue, a real clue, as to Maura's disappearance. Maura is not a deity, nor is she an object of worship, except to some. She is a missing person like so many others that deserve the attention and concern of the public.
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Granny M wrote:
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Snowey: Excuse me officer, but I have a complaint about a message board.
Officer: What is it Mrs Snowey?
Snowey: There are posters that are doing their own private investigations.
Officer: Really Mrs Snowey now you can't really be wasting my valuable time about that are you? This is a missing person case and folks are going to want to help solve and discuss the case right?
Snowey: Sorry officer but I am really scared and one poster actually shat on my favorite moniker.
officer: Mrs Snowey , I am sorry that your favorite moniker got shat on. I suggest that you learn to get along with others and stop wasting my time. Good day Mrs Snowey
LMAO!!! Hilarious!!
How much you wanna bet that's pretty much exactly how that conversation went too?
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amy researches wrote:
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I would hope that LE would check out anyone who spends that much time posting on a forum about a missing person. Including me and you.
I understand what you're saying about the forums keeping Maura's name out there, and that's a good point that I agree with.
Here's what I mean about no tangible benefit. Let's say for example that Bill killed Maura and he's been posting this silly into-the-woods theory here for 8 years trying to get the conversation to stop. Well first of all he's not doing a very good job, as people are still here talking - no benefit to him. Secondly, Bill's gonna have to spend a lot of time at websleuths and a bunch of other sites also, since this is not the only place people discuss Maura - again, no benefit to Bill, as shutting down all conversation is impossible and oops, now he has attracted your attention and findmaura's. Now, if you two grew suspicious thinking "I wonder why this guy spends so much time here posting his into-the-woods theory and being mean to us," then don't you think LE might have thought that at some point also and looked into Bill? I would sure hope so.
But if there is any real concern that someone posting here is the killer, then maybe give the CCU a call with these concerns. If someone posting here is the killer, then I'd think that would be a great break for the guys trying to solve this case. Just a suggestion.
Agree, Amy. Good ideas, well expressed.
Now, Jenkins' ideas about how to dispose of a body in water are as bizarre and as tasteless as some of Beagle's gruesome suggestions in the past. I'd think the long-time-lurkers-conspiracy theorists might question the intent of a guy who suggests literally poking holes in bodies to sink them, rather than embracing him as a powerful contributor. Did someone say nut house??!

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