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I think a shitload of new posters should be put up and there should be an effort to find out who exactly is taking them back Down.

That could give a good idea as to what is going on in this case, who would take down a missing persons poster? Why would they do that? Whoever would do that must have some sort of agenda that's not good, certainly not trying to find Maura, actually the exact opposite.

I find the whole posters being taken down thing very suspicious and very weird

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BobJenkins-OG wrote:
Lighthouse has had a serious change In posting style in the last few months.
Last year she was posting because MM was the topic of her debate class. Her team argued that Maura got lost in the woods and she admitted that her team got their asses handed to them. That makes sense because the argument that she's lost in the woods holds no water, logically speaking. In a debate where the moderator is truly neutral and objective that argument is just not going to win. There is just nothing that logically places her in the woods, if the strongest argument you have is 'I think she ran in the woods real quick to think' and 'just because she hasn't been found does t mean she isnt there' your not gonna win that debate.
So she came on, said her debate team lost bad and that she was done posting on the subject, said goodbye to the board.
Before she stopped posting the first time her arguments were always very sane, logical and pretty neutral. She was a good, fair poster.
Then she started posting again a couple months ago with a completely different style. Very argumentative, completely one sided and just with a very different tone altogether. She used to never make posts with the sole intent of pissing people off and talking shit, but now she does all the time. she has become one of the weirdos IMO.
I can see what jwb is saying; if I didn't know better I would swear that someone pirated her account and is posting under her moniker that is t really her. Just a completely different tone and style to her posts.
Idk if someone stole her account or if something happened in her life to cause her to become bitter, but she certainly has made a major change in her posting style.
Hard to say what happened but her style of posting is now 100% different
And why does every registered member, not me, it everyone have their locations hidden? What's up with that? Why are all these registered users so worried about people knowing where they're posting from? It seems very strange to me
Not everyone does. I don't.(Hidden location).

I'd assume....for privacy?
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To be fair I think there was definitely some confusion as to what citigirl said regarding the missin posters.
I thought she didn't sound very interested at all either, almost like she didn't want fliers put up but I was wrong.
Iirc she came on and cleared it up that she was more talking about paying for the posters, not the Actual putting up of the posters, which she did encourage people to do
There was some confusion for sure but she cleared it up, she thinks people should put up posters but she should t have to pay for them, which makes sense.
You would think that Fred would gladly pay for a few thousand posters to be put up around the area but I don't see that happening. Seems weird, his daughter is missing, people want to put up posters and he doesn't wanna pay a couple hundred bucks for the posters?
Yes they've been taken down, which is extremely sketchy IMO, but let's keep putting em back up.
IMO the area should be plastered with posters this winter before its too late and everyone who may have seen something that night forgets about it.
Every store, gas station, hiking trail, ski area, etc etc etc should have missing posters. If someone takes it down, someone should put another one up.
Btw, who the hell would take down a missing person poster?!?! I lost my Doberman for a few days and put posters up all over the place, which enabled me To find her, and nobody took them down. Not even one. A couple weeks later I was still taking em down in places that I forgot.
So a missing dog poster is fine, nobody touches those, but a missing persons poster is not?! There is something seriously wrong with this picture if you think about it
Who would ever take down a missing persons poster and why?????
Do it, then, especially because you are local-ish and you seem to believe it will help. Put up posters.

citigirl was given a directive, nearly scolded / shamed for not participating at the level a poster desired. She offered a personal explanation for the position she takes on the matter, which is well beyond what was expected. While some of us have mellowed, others escalate.
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Citigirl doesn't pass the test either- I offered to help put out posters for maura and she has more kudos for beagle ha ha ha BS- Girl you are hiding something .
If citigirl was interested in finding maura she would have accepted JWB offer and said hey thanks for carering = Nope didn't happen instead a little add in a touist add gets put out there- nothin for locals to read.
I have thanked you and other posters in the past for caring. If you remember right in the past you put a posting out to me and Wowzer saying to put your mouth were your money is and help. Both me and Wowzer have been involved in the search for Maura as I explained to you in my posting when you made these statements. You also wanted me to hand deliver posters to you. I explained my situation to you. Iam very sympathetic to you for the losses you have stated on this forum. I have never refused any help from anyone. Iam greatful to anyone who will help. But I have stated in the past because of my own losses I no longer have the funds to do what I have done in the past.
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Wowzer the real one wrote:
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To be fair citigirl never said she wasn't interested in putting posters up. If I remember correctly she said she had recently lost her husband and couldnt afford to buy posters. Because of her loss I find your post to be quite cold hearted and mean.
If I'm wrong I'm sure citigirl will correct me.
thank you Wowzer. you are correct. I lost my husband in 2007 and my sister in 2008. Finances have definitly changed and I can no longer afford what I could in the beginning years of Mauras disappearance. I have always been greatful to those whom have helped in our search for Maura.

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Just to help lean towards squashing the rumor that maura may have been pregnant.

I have confirmed 100 percent that one of maura's classes she was taking at the time she went missing was a maternity class.

I know it has been speculated that maybe her computer searches were class related and I definitely lean towards that now and believe that she was just looking up info for her class and not her own personal situation.

FWIW

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OKAY wrote:
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Do it, then, especially because you are local-ish and you seem to believe it will help. Put up posters.
citigirl was given a directive, nearly scolded / shamed for not participating at the level a poster desired. She offered a personal explanation for the position she takes on the matter, which is well beyond what was expected. While some of us have mellowed, others escalate.
I definitely am goin to put up posters this winter. I feel like winter could be an effective time as many people only come up NH in the winter time for skiing and what not. I'm plannin on putting up a bunch in like early-mid December so people who are coming up for Xmas and NYE see them. If they get taken down I'm gonna put up another crop of them to make sure that they're up aroun the end of January-middle february for the anniversary of her dissapearance. Many people visit NH only once or twice a year and many of them go up at about the same time. I think if there's one point in the year that the posters could be most effective it would be around the anniversary.
. I am extremely interested in who would take down her missing poster and I am going to make a concerted effort to find out exactly who has been taking thes things down. This is something I really want to know and I have a couple good ideas of exactly how to figure out who is taking them down. Should be rather interesting.
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JWB wrote:
IMHO- Citigirl is not doing Maura Any justice at all- Unwilling to confirm anything or talk straight up- yea Citigirl doesn't like me because I call her out= Sorry but any family member that turns down help?? WTF and then turns arround and supports a creep that LE calls a creep.
I am sorry but i really smell a rat. i am not here Io make friends amd alliances so the blog can be happy place ie me against you. BS citigirl has a family member that is so called missing yet she is not interested in help putting posters up ( red flag)
JWB is obviously not here to kiss ass, but to be real- go ahead and continue to kiss but but that is more BS than real interest in what happened to maura. All about you and not maura.
No where have I ever stated I dont like you. I have never turned down any help from anyone.I have always been greatful and appreciate the help we have received from others regarding Maura even if our thoughts and opinions differ as to what we think happened to her.
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BobJenkins-OG wrote:
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I definitely am goin to put up posters this winter. I feel like winter could be an effective time as many people only come up NH in the winter time for skiing and what not. I'm plannin on putting up a bunch in like early-mid December so people who are coming up for Xmas and NYE see them. If they get taken down I'm gonna put up another crop of them to make sure that they're up aroun the end of January-middle february for the anniversary of her dissapearance. Many people visit NH only once or twice a year and many of them go up at about the same time. I think if there's one point in the year that the posters could be most effective it would be around the anniversary.
. I am extremely interested in who would take down her missing poster and I am going to make a concerted effort to find out exactly who has been taking thes things down. This is something I really want to know and I have a couple good ideas of exactly how to figure out who is taking them down. Should be rather interesting.
Sounds like a good plan. I'm sure it's not only a good deed, but may spark a clue that is hoped for.

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I think the whole thing was just a bunch of confusion.
When jwb said 'put your $ where your mouth is' I don't think he was talkin literally but rather figuratively, well that was how I took it. I also dont think he was specifically talkin to citigirl either but rather to everyone in general who claims they wanna help.
Then there was more confusion over her response. I admit I was confused too, I thought that she was saying that she didn't want posters put up at all but was really just saying she couldn't pay for them, which is understandable.
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BobJenkins-OG wrote:
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I definitely am goin to put up posters this winter. I feel like winter could be an effective time as many people only come up NH in the winter time for skiing and what not. I'm plannin on putting up a bunch in like early-mid December so people who are coming up for Xmas and NYE see them. If they get taken down I'm gonna put up another crop of them to make sure that they're up aroun the end of January-middle february for the anniversary of her dissapearance. Many people visit NH only once or twice a year and many of them go up at about the same time. I think if there's one point in the year that the posters could be most effective it would be around the anniversary.
. I am extremely interested in who would take down her missing poster and I am going to make a concerted effort to find out exactly who has been taking thes things down. This is something I really want to know and I have a couple good ideas of exactly how to figure out who is taking them down. Should be rather interesting.
thank you. Anything that is done on behalf of Maura is greatly appreciated.
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BobJenkins-OG wrote:
I think the whole thing was just a bunch of confusion.
When jwb said 'put your $ where your mouth is' I don't think he was talkin literally but rather figuratively, well that was how I took it. I also dont think he was specifically talkin to citigirl either but rather to everyone in general who claims they wanna help.
Then there was more confusion over her response. I admit I was confused too, I thought that she was saying that she didn't want posters put up at all but was really just saying she couldn't pay for them, which is understandable.
JWB directed the posting to me and Wowzer only. It was posted to citigirl and Wowzer. JWB put only our names in the posting and no other names.I dont know what the confusdion was because I explained the reasons to JWB as to why I know longer had the funding to do what I did in the past.

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BobJenkins-OG wrote:
I think the whole thing was just a bunch of confusion.
When jwb said 'put your $ where your mouth is' I don't think he was talkin literally but rather figuratively, well that was how I took it. I also dont think he was specifically talkin to citigirl either but rather to everyone in general who claims they wanna help.
Then there was more confusion over her response. I admit I was confused too, I thought that she was saying that she didn't want posters put up at all but was really just saying she couldn't pay for them, which is understandable.
Just catching up on the posts but I have to ask you Jenkins, why is it you keep jumping in an making excuses for JWB? Just wondering as he certainly has shown he needs no one to speak for him.

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BobJenkins-OG wrote:
Btw, who the hell would take down a missing person poster?!?! I lost my Doberman for a few days and put posters up all over the place, which enabled me To find her, and nobody took them down. Not even one.
I can only assume that your Dobi's dad didn't piss off the entire neighborhood by 1: walking through private property without permission, and having his representatives (both known and unknown) piss of everyone else by doing the same, over and over and over? and 2: by having internet spooks repeatedly announce how the locals were responsible for his daughters disappearance and accusing them of doing all kinds of unimaginable things with no evidence what so every.

I wonder if that could have people pissed off enough to get rid of anything they see related to those people? I wonder how many times you would let these nit-wits walk through your property before you would say enough? Well, maybe you wouldn't, because you are special, but others, maybe?

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WTH-the-original wrote:
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I can only assume that your Dobi's dad didn't piss off the entire neighborhood by 1: walking through private property without permission, and having his representatives (both known and unknown) piss of everyone else by doing the same, over and over and over? and 2: by having internet spooks repeatedly announce how the locals were responsible for his daughters disappearance and accusing them of doing all kinds of unimaginable things with no evidence what so every.
I wonder if that could have people pissed off enough to get rid of anything they see related to those people? I wonder how many times you would let these nit-wits walk through your property before you would say enough? Well, maybe you wouldn't, because you are special, but others, maybe?
Bill
excuse me WTH but I have always asked permission before going on to anyones property.No one has ever refused us. They have even offered there help. We are not responsible for what you and others post on the internet.

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citigirl wrote:
<quoted text>excuse me WTH but I have always asked permission before going on to anyones property.No one has ever refused us. They have even offered there help. We are not responsible for what you and others post on the internet.
Congratulations. That makes you - a decent human being. Others searching for her, have been reported to not be quite as decent.

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JWB wrote:
IMHO- Citigirl is not doing Maura Any justice at all- Unwilling to confirm anything or talk straight up- yea Citigirl doesn't like me because I call her out= Sorry but any family member that turns down help?? WTF and then turns arround and supports a creep that LE calls a creep.
I am sorry but i really smell a rat. i am not here Io make friends amd alliances so the blog can be happy place ie me against you. BS citigirl has a family member that is so called missing yet she is not interested in help putting posters up ( red flag)
JWB is obviously not here to kiss ass, but to be real- go ahead and continue to kiss but but that is more BS than real interest in what happened to maura. All about you and not maura.
originally I thought yout heart was in the right place. Im not so sure anymore. JWB"All about you and not Maura" You are the one focousing all your postings on me and not on Maura. So it is you whom have made it all about me with what you are saying in your postings. I will no longer reply to you regardless as to what you say. Our family is greatful and appreciates the help from others on Mauras behalf.

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citigirl wrote:
<quoted text>excuse me WTH but I have always asked permission before going on to anyones property.No one has ever refused us. They have even offered there help. We are not responsible for what you and others post on the internet.
Citigirl wrote:**I have always asked permission before going on to anyones property.No one has ever refused us**

And that is most likely why. You had the courtesy to ask first and were respectful. Some of the people before and after you may not have done the same. And I know you are not responsible for what others do.

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I definitely am goin to put up posters this winter. I feel like winter could be an effective time as many people only come up NH in the winter time for skiing and what not. I'm plannin on putting up a bunch in like early-mid December so people who are coming up for Xmas and NYE see them. If they get taken down I'm gonna put up another crop of them to make sure that they're up aroun the end of January-middle february for the anniversary of her dissapearance. Many people visit NH only once or twice a year and many of them go up at about the same time. I think if there's one point in the year that the posters could be most effective it would be around the anniversary.
. I am extremely interested in who would take down her missing poster and I am going to make a concerted effort to find out exactly who has been taking thes things down. This is something I really want to know and I have a couple good ideas of exactly how to figure out who is taking them down. Should be rather interesting.
Perhaps the taking down of the posters is not nefarious in nature: Couldn't it simply be a matter of a private citizen and/or business owner, who didn't want the clutter on their tree/board/sign/door? Although many would find this to be a repulsive display of a lack of empathy - others may say that it's the right of the land/business/home owner to grant permission, or deny, as they see fit, for any signage put up on their property.

I can state that I've personally seen posters up at the local shops downtown, and they only last for a day or two. Either wind rips it off - or an employee, following the 'no solicitation' rule removes it, or some punk kid ripping it down....

I wonder why it's automatically assumed that there is an individual with an agenda, tearing down these posters. I'm not denying it's feasible - I just don't think it's likely.

But, playing along - even if it were some random individual with malicious intent - I don't think that necessarily insinuates that the person is the perp. in this situation (should such a perp. exist).

Just some thoughts.

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Perhaps the taking down of the posters is not nefarious in nature: Couldn't it simply be a matter of a private citizen and/or business owner, who didn't want the clutter on their tree/board/sign/door? Although many would find this to be a repulsive display of a lack of empathy - others may say that it's the right of the land/business/home owner to grant permission, or deny, as they see fit, for any signage put up on their property.
I can state that I've personally seen posters up at the local shops downtown, and they only last for a day or two. Either wind rips it off - or an employee, following the 'no solicitation' rule removes it, or some punk kid ripping it down....
I wonder why it's automatically assumed that there is an individual with an agenda, tearing down these posters. I'm not denying it's feasible - I just don't think it's likely.
But, playing along - even if it were some random individual with malicious intent - I don't think that necessarily insinuates that the person is the perp. in this situation (should such a perp. exist).
Just some thoughts.
You make a good case for what is the usual default...looking toward the obvious reasons posters don't remain displayed for very long. I am less gracious than you are and more impatient; I have less tolerance for a conspiracy mindset.

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