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citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>CW never claimed he had seen Maura. So Im not sure what sighting you are referring to. I could be wrong but I believe you are talking about 116 Benton which if I remember correcty comes out to or near BHR. This was not the area that CW saw some one. I dont have an exact location as to where CW saw this person but it was in the area or near 112 and 116 Easton.

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mcsmom wrote:

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This is accurate. But did she have a full ride at UMASS or did she also have student loans?
Also, I wore a white lab coat during my nursing clinicals. Scrubs too.

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OKAY wrote:

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shortened to get a word in edgewise.
yes, the timeline is a carefully crafted explanation that conveniently puts a positive spin on a story that is missing verification to most, if not all, pertinent, verified facts. fiction isn't helpful.
insults and targeted anger don't magically change misinformation onto factual info, either.
we'll see how Renner has researched and written the timeline and fills in the details.

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Orko Kringer wrote:

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I don't have 100 percent proof, but I believe she had a full ride, because that was one of her conditions in making a transfer out of West Point, that she find a school that would give her a full-ride scholarship.
Family have also pointed out (throughout the years) that maura battled a hamstring injury while at UMASS and was taking pain pills regularly. She didn't remain on the track team and therefore I am not sure how that would affect her scholarship. She is alleged to have pain pills with her as well as the alcohol when she left for the mountains on Feb 9, 2004.

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Orko Kringer wrote:

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I don't have 100 percent proof, but I believe she had a full ride, because that was one of her conditions in making a transfer out of West Point, that she find a school that would give her a full-ride scholarship.
Family have also pointed out (throughout the years) that maura battled a hamstring injury while at UMASS and was taking pain pills regularly. She didn't remain on the track team and therefore I am not sure how that would affect her scholarship. She is alleged to have pain pills with her as well as the alcohol when she left for the mountains on Feb 9, 2004.

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just me wrote:

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Yes but Tyenlol with sleep aid is hardly a vicodin. She was said to have quit the track due to the desire to apply herself to her studies. But if what James said is accurate, I would think sticking with the program might be awkward at some point.
Don't forget that Maura stayed with the coach over the early summer and I take it her and Billy were on the outs then. But when he came around, and he did in the fall, Maura, Fred and Billy all went to the White Mountains for some R&R

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BobJenkins-OG wrote:

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When you say pain pills like that it sounds like your talking about OxyContin or morphine or something like that. To my knowledge she was only taking over the counter pain relief pills like Tylenol. Is that what your talking about or are you talking about prescription pain meds?

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BobJenkins-OG wrote:

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Anger and insults don't change misinformation into factual info huh? I know this but do you?? Maybe you should try to teach some of your buddies lile bill this little fact because damn they wish that was true.
Orky posted a rather in depth and accurate timeline of her college experience and you come back with highly doubtful. What is your deal? He didn't analyze it at all, didn't post any conclusions, just listed facts. Saying they're highly doubtful means nothing. If you have info that shows somethin he posted was wrong then by all means show us, otherwise it's your post itself that is highly doubtful. And for the record, your pretty much one of the last people that can claim misinfo here, you & your buddies are the kings n queens of misinformation.

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Wowzer the real one wrote:

For those that are either blind, can't read or choose not to read I'll repeat what's been said several times before.
It is DANGEROUS to the poster, their family and maybe even their friends to have their name, address and/or personal information outed on a public forum. If they want to do it themselves then that's up to them but it's a whole different game when a stranger is trying to find out the posters identity. Once that identity is found there is no guarantee that it won't be passed around to different posters or made public on a forum.
Some of us have seen what could happen when the SBD's Florida address was mentioned on an older forum. An obviously mentally disturbed person that acted quite dangerous stated he was going to the SBD's home and have a talk with him.I believe his name was Johnny Bravado if my memory is correct.
There are others besides just us watching this forum.
It's being cautious NOT paranoid to keep real identities private. If someone is going to the trouble of trying to find that information out then be very aware that it is most likely not for a good reason.
For those that think it's no big deal then why don't you put your real name and address here for all to see? Yeh right, I didn't think so.
Better yet why don't you have one of the strangers that post here(yes we are strangers to one another) start digging into YOUR life to find out who you really are or where you live. If that doesn't work then have them call people in your neighborhood asking to speak to whatever moniker you're using.
JWB claims he knows who I am. He must have done some super heavy digging to find out that information. Beware or he'll know who you are next if he doesn't already.
Paranoid no, concerned yes.
Sorry Jenkins for using up so much of your space.

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Wowzer the real one wrote:

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Bumping for Bob who still doesn't seem to get it.

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BobJenkins-OG wrote:

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Hold on, some guy names 'Johnny bravado' said that he was gonna go to sbd's house and ask him questions? He didn't go to his house, he didn't do anything to sbd, he just said he might go there and talk to him? This is your big evidence of all the dangers of having your name posted on the forum?
I don't think anyone should be outed who wants to be anonymous, people have the right to privacy. But I think the danger is seriously over exaggerated by you guys, like waaaayyy over exaggerated.

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Wowzer the real one wrote:

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How do you know that he didn't go to his house and do anything? Do you know that for a fact?
Bob I really don't believe that you're as stupid as you act so I have to wonder if you're just trying to be a wise guy, piss off some of the posters by repeating things over and over again,stating your ideas and theories as facts while knowing it causes confusion and contradicting others even when they speak the truth. Is this some kind of game you're playing? Do you have no common sense what so ever?
As I said earlier, if it's so waaaaayyy over exaggerated then why not put your name and personal info right here for all to see???
As for me, common sense tells me to keep my name and personal info private so I won't need to worry about who might show up at my door or call on my phone. It's not being paranoid, it's being cautious and staying safe.

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BobJenkins-OG wrote:

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Wowzer, are you sure your not looking in the mirror when you just asked those questions? Cuz wow, you just did a spot on description of yourself, it's uncanny. Contradicting others even when they speak the truth, just tryin to be a wise ass and piss people off, stating theoris as fact, I mean damn that is a perfect description of the moniker wowzer, absolutely perfect.
I think it's pretty safe to assume that if some mentally unstable individual, like you described this guy, went to the sbd's house in FL & started causing trouble we would've known about it. If he didn't start causing trouble and just went and spoke to the sbd would this Johnny person have told the forum about it? Since he said he might go to his house you would think that he would've said if he did.
At this point I ain't posting my info on the forum, there's clearly a bunch of weirdos that don't like me, I'm not posting my info for a bunch of weirdos that don't like me. Back in the day on the mm & MMM forums I would've posted my info no problem if there was a need or was ever truly asked for some reason. I've posted my real info on other forums that don't have to do with MM, what's the big deal? Most forums it is not a big deal at all, people buy and sell things all the time online and they use their real names & addresses. Like on car forums, forums about firearms, etc. Most places online it is not a big deal at all for someone to know your identity, it's just not. Just like Emmett was saying earlier, most of those local forums people use their real names. And this is my point about these forums. On these forums it's like there's a bunch of superheroes trying to protect their identities. I'm just pointing out the stark contrast between these forums and most other spots online. Most places its not a big deal, it just isn't, on here there is this hyper-fear of having your identity revealed. it sure is interesting.

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BobJenkins-OG wrote:

Something that sticks out to me is the fact that in that early article LE had made up a witness who thought she appeared intoxicated, which it turns out this witness never existed. That's pretty messed up if you think about it, you make up witnesses that make her look bad? That's pretty bad. I'd bet the HPD were responsible for that bullshit. They showed a clear proclivity towards lying when they lied to the family upon their arrival to Nh telling them that they thought it was Fred driving the car and that he went snowmobiling, or something along those lines.

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What you said here is so completely wrong.
They were NOT talking about sbd..
Sbd has always said, since his earliest interview, that she did NOT appear intoxicated. Early on there were these reports of a witness who thought she was intoxicated but it is clear now that witness never existed.
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So someone in LE, likely someone from the HPD IMO, basically made up a witness who said she appeared intoxicated. Pretty f'd up if you ask me

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You could not be more wrong here, a witness was most certainly made up....
If your tryin to say they were talkin about sbd and just made up that he said she appeared intoxicated that's one thing. But either way, they lied. They either made up a witness, or lied about what the witness said, either way they definitely lied.
...what's important is that they did lie about someone saying that she appeared intoxicated, which is really f'd up.
The only fallacy here was created by LE when they stated there was a witness who said she appeared intoxicated

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Maybe it is the sbd, but he has always said that she didn't appear intoxicated so either way they still lied about what the witness saw.
You have to read more articles,.... If you read those early articles it makes it out like there was two witnesses, but we know there was only the SBD.
Whether they lied about the witness or what the witness said isn't really important anyways, what's important is the fact that they lied.

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WTH-the-original wrote:

I see that Bob was up to his usual good work while I was gone.
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First load of bullshit. LE made up witnesses. People that never existed. Vast conspiracy between the police to make Maura look bad. They lie to the family. Look at his words, how positive he is of what he is saying.
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It is reported that it was SBD. How more definitive could he say that was wrong? He is positive. No question. "They were NOT talking about SBD. WOW, could he be more positive? How could someone not believe him. He is absolutely positive, no room for error.
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Still insists that it is a made up witness. "Certainly made up." "The only fallacy here was created by LE...." HE is certain, he talks about the liars. How they either made up the witness or lied about it. Again, he is certain.
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Now all of a sudden, maybe it was the SBD. But of course, all that is no longer important, because it isn't what he is trying to prove anymore. What is important he says, it that they, lied.
He is truly amazing, as usual. Starts out, he is positive. There is no room for doubt. Ask him. He knows. Then it proceeds to people lying, making things up. Its all a grand conspiracy. Then it proceeds to well maybe, maybe. Then it's on to, OK it true but it doesn't matter.
This is virtually a trademark with him. First, he is positive, there can be no room for discussion. How can there be? He is positive. It is a certainty that he talks about. Then you find out, well he isn't really certain, and maybe, maybe its true. Then, we find out it is true, but it really doesn't matter. I have seen him do this four times. It is a pattern that he repeats often. I hope that others have seen it and take anything he say, especially when he "knows" with more than just a grain of salt.
Bill

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Wowzer the real one wrote:

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Good to see you back Bill. Hope you and yours had a great Thanksgiving.

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BobJenkins-OG wrote:

I find it pretty hard to believe that her cc fraud had anything to do with her dissapearance, except maybe embarrassment being the reason she went up NH in the first place
She stole like 77$ or something, nobody is gettin killed over 80 bucks, at least not in places like amherst, Holyoke maybe, but not Amherst.
Also the charges were a misdemeanor, misuse of a cc under 250 & she took the rap for it straight out, there's no way there was someone behind the scenes that killed her because they thought she might rat them out for a misdemeanor she already got charged with. Come on.
It's very possible the cc thing started going around campus as it happened towards the end of the semester, I could see embarrassment being a damn good reason for her wanting to leave for a week and possibly forever, but to think someone was threatening her or actually harmed her for using the cc is just unbelievable on many different levels.