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Emmett Dove wrote: <quoted text> The last few replies you are twisting my words.. I said that with question marks.. & you can't Allow it? WTH?? Bottom Line.. No-One points at me &says "thats the guy that got caught with a firearm" ... How many thieves you want near your home? Everyone points out thieves.. They steal from hard working people.. From what is known, getting caught at WP, then doing it again at UMass.. That makes her an angel?? So when someone steals from you, you can pat them on the back & say "good job".. I have no more to say on this.. Stealing from people is not cool at all.. I will not get caught up defending myself just cus I said it like it was - She's A Thief!!!!!!! If there's a family member on the forum - "to make sure the truth is known." Maybe a nice short feel good story of you and your cousin growing up can help humanize the situation, or your own personal charcater reference would help.
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Lighthouse 101 wrote: <quoted text> If there's a family member on the forum - "to make sure the truth is known." Maybe a nice short feel good story of you and your cousin growing up can help humanize the situation, or your own personal charcater reference would help. So you want citigirl to "chime in" about growing up? A character reference wont change the fact she was busted.. Your looking for sympathy to prove a point that is moot & proven? Truth is known? So your saying that she didnt steal a cc nor commit cc fraud & a "feel good story" will make it better?? Lmao.. Ohh god.. This is for people to use theories & there is NO denying the fact that she committed CC FRAUD.. Now, I see what jenkins was sayin about you.. That post was uncalled for.. Lets use Brianna Maitland for example.. Her friends admitted she hung around drug dealers & they checked "drug dens" for her.. Most families give out any info to help find a loved one.. This info wasnt given out & she was portrayed as a Saint on ID Network.. Where as Brianna was not.. You result to tactics from a family member?? I feel sorry for the family & I hope they recieve closure & dont have any problems with them.. But when ur arrested for cc fraud, which is stealing, whats it called??? A feel good story wont take those proven facts away.. Im sorry but if people want to find out what happened, they need to know & should have at first.. What you expect her to say?? Im sure she didnt tell her to do it.. If you cant get your way in any arguments, you goto the extreme looking for help.. Im the bad guy cus I said she was a thief?? How many times stealing does it take to call someone a thief?
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Habs
Lachine, Canada
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You know I was always stuck on the phone call that freaked her out and trying to tie it in with the Vasi hit. If she hit him then it's a call from someone passing on his condition. If someone drove her car then it was this person who called her with the news. What if it was just the beginning of her "death in the family" story? Holes?
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Habs
Lachine, Canada
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......and I sure wish we knew more about that NYE party in Goshen.
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Habs
Lachine, Canada
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Alden? Do you think she may have met someone else important other than the werewolves?
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Since: Jul 11
Vandalia, IL
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Habs wrote: You know I was always stuck on the phone call that freaked her out and trying to tie it in with the Vasi hit. If she hit him then it's a call from someone passing on his condition. If someone drove her car then it was this person who called her with the news. What if it was just the beginning of her "death in the family" story? Holes? there is absolutely no proof whatsoever that a phone call is what upset maura that night while she was at work. When maura was found by her supervisor, she wasn't on a phone and never herself mentioned a phone call to the supervisor as being what upset her.
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Habs
Lachine, Canada
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Thank you for clarification.
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Vandalia, IL
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hannah_b wrote: <quoted text> She also received a call on the work landline from a phone within UMass campus. The number was supposedly only known to security staff and camppus police. The caller reportedly had "moved on" at the time the call was traced. I´m not sure what time this call came in. Note these details: this is an excerpt from an article done close to a year after maura went missing. Hanson whitman Express, Nov 24, 2004 "According to Sharon Rausch, the mother of Maura's fiance Billy Rausch, the last two calls made from Maura's cell phone (on Monday) were to a UMass number and to a couple who is part of a condo association in the area of New Hampshire where Murray appeared headed. The UMass number is pretty much a dead end for investigators, since the person who lived in the room Maura called in February has most likely moved on." Police later discovred the last phone call was made to a fellow nursing student as maura left a message about returning her lab jacket. Somehow this bit of information about the person in the dorm "moving on" got tied in with the thursday night that maura was working and supposedly received a phone call that made her upset.
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Just whosits
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findmaura wrote: Were visitors (Boys) allowed in the dorm rooms?Were the pizzas def. delivered to the dorm room? Maura had a dining plan,a job,a bank account&Family as a backup..Really no need to steal Cc's..Maybe Maura had a hungry new friend who put her up to it? On Renner's blog he made it sound like Maura, or any student would need to go (downstairs in her case), and to the door for any delivery. That makes sense too, because you can't trust just anyone to walk the halls. Not even a pizza man.
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Just whosits
Plymouth, MN
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Join the community? That's odd, I'm on the work PC.
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Emmett Dove wrote: <quoted text> So you want citigirl to "chime in" about growing up? A character reference wont change the fact she was busted.. Your looking for sympathy to prove a point that is moot & proven? Truth is known? So your saying that she didnt steal a cc nor commit cc fraud & a "feel good story" will make it better?? Lmao.. Ohh god.. This is for people to use theories & there is NO denying the fact that she committed CC FRAUD.. Now, I see what jenkins was sayin about you.. That post was uncalled for.. Lets use Brianna Maitland for example.. Her friends admitted she hung around drug dealers & they checked "drug dens" for her.. Most families give out any info to help find a loved one.. This info wasnt given out & she was portrayed as a Saint on ID Network.. Where as Brianna was not.. You result to tactics from a family member?? I feel sorry for the family & I hope they recieve closure & dont have any problems with them.. But when ur arrested for cc fraud, which is stealing, whats it called??? A feel good story wont take those proven facts away.. Im sorry but if people want to find out what happened, they need to know & should have at first.. What you expect her to say?? Im sure she didnt tell her to do it.. If you cant get your way in any arguments, you goto the extreme looking for help.. Im the bad guy cus I said she was a thief?? How many times stealing does it take to call someone a thief? I wanted another poster to show MM as young person who could make a mistake. You know like what you did. No one knows why she left WP the only evidence of cc is just once. I never should have argued with you. A Hypocrite says something and does something totally different. What you did is worse. You judged her - but then pardoned yourself from any wrong doing. That isn't rational. I think its wrong.
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Just whosits
Plymouth, MN
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Lighthouse 101 wrote: <quoted text> I wanted another poster to show MM as young person who could make a mistake. You know like what you did. No one knows why she left WP the only evidence of cc is just once. I never should have argued with you. A Hypocrite says something and does something totally different. What you did is worse. You judged her - but then pardoned yourself from any wrong doing. That isn't rational. I think its wrong. Emmett handles himself just fine. I just wanted to jump in here on this one. We can all give examples, and I like his. He carried a gun, and that's not the same as taking something that doesn't belong to you. Now, if he'd've said he took a CC and used it for his Sunday breakfast, then I would agree with you.
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Orko Kringer wrote: <quoted text> there is absolutely no proof whatsoever that a phone call is what upset maura that night while she was at work. When maura was found by her supervisor, she wasn't on a phone and never herself mentioned a phone call to the supervisor as being what upset her. Orko, was it you who determined that Maura's cell call after midnight was to Billy and not her sister?
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mcsmom
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Alden Howes Olson wrote: <quoted text> OCMP? Yes.
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Lighthouse 101 wrote: <quoted text> I wanted another poster to show MM as young person who could make a mistake. You know like what you did. No one knows why she left WP the only evidence of cc is just once. I never should have argued with you. A Hypocrite says something and does something totally different. What you did is worse. You judged her - but then pardoned yourself from any wrong doing. That isn't rational. I think its wrong. Pardoned myself? First off you dont know me.. I said I did what I did & I took responsibility for it.. Thats me giving myself a free pass? Im worse than a hypocrite? All I said was she was a thief! Whats it called then? You still wont answer, what do you call someone whom steals someones cc & uses it more than once? If she didnt take one at WP, then I retrack it.. I never once portrayed myself as some angel & I know excatlly what I done & why it was wrong in the eyes of the court in another state.. You result to name calling??? Just mad cus you lost ur debate?? All i said was she stole, give another name for it?? "Borrowing without consent??!!!" .. I have a college education also & wont be sitting here taking cheap shots.. You play "dirty pool" whenever you dont have your way.. Its not like I lied.. I said what it is.. Woopty do I had a gun.. Omg, lock me up & throw away the key.. I still admit it but you cant admit that stealing is stealing.. That makes you a hypocrite! Read what you say.. & dont result to callin people names.. "Worse than a hypocrite" cause I said she was a thief.. Let someone steal from you & what you gonna call it??? I can take it aswell as dish it out.. You started this mess with me.. I had no intentions of arguing all day about what makes someone a thief or criminal.. No wonder your team lost the debate.. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck its a duck.. To you its a "mistake", I done my time, I paid my debt & I work hard for everything I have.. A thief is a thief.. Get over yourself
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Just whosits
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Lighthouse 101 wrote: <quoted text> Thats what you are saying. I said nothing about condoning anything. If you want my personal opinion I don't feel I know enough to allow her to be branded a "thief" anymore than I would allow you to be branded a "criminal" Didn't you see the documents on Renner's site? It goes into detail and includes a statement by one of the CCF victim. She knew she was doing something she shouldn't, but she did it anyway. If it's true this was another reason for having to leave WP, I am at a loss. Maura had to have known she would get caught. It brings this to mind again. Did anyone else discover a fraudulant purchase ``after`` MM was found to be missing?
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Just whosits wrote: <quoted text> Emmett handles himself just fine. I just wanted to jump in here on this one. We can all give examples, and I like his. He carried a gun, and that's not the same as taking something that doesn't belong to you. Now, if he'd've said he took a CC and used it for his Sunday breakfast, then I would agree with you. Thank you! Its not like I robbed the corner bodega with it! I pulled the chamber back, locked it & put it on my dashboard.. It was illegal in CT to have it.. I made the mistake of having it & I paid for it.. It wasnt a stolen gun, it was mine! If I had "criminal intentions" I would have kept it in my pocket & I would have gotten away but I didnt.. In a lot of countries you get your hand chopped off for stealing.. I said what its called, a thief, so these people gonna jump on me for stating that??!!! Its one of the known facts in this case.. & she used said card several times.. Whats anyone call that? I took my responsibility.. How am I worse than a hypocrite?
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Emmett Dove wrote: <quoted text> Pardoned myself? First off you dont know me.. I said I did what I did & I took responsibility for it.. Thats me giving myself a free pass? Im worse than a hypocrite? All I said was she was a thief! Whats it called then? You still wont answer, what do you call someone whom steals someones cc & uses it more than once? If she didnt take one at WP, then I retrack it.. I never once portrayed myself as some angel & I know excatlly what I done & why it was wrong in the eyes of the court in another state.. You result to name calling??? Just mad cus you lost ur debate?? All i said was she stole, give another name for it?? "Borrowing without consent??!!!" .. I have a college education also & wont be sitting here taking cheap shots.. You play "dirty pool" whenever you dont have your way.. Its not like I lied.. I said what it is.. Woopty do I had a gun.. Omg, lock me up & throw away the key.. I still admit it but you cant admit that stealing is stealing.. That makes you a hypocrite! Read what you say.. & dont result to callin people names.. "Worse than a hypocrite" cause I said she was a thief.. Let someone steal from you & what you gonna call it??? I can take it aswell as dish it out.. You started this mess with me.. I had no intentions of arguing all day about what makes someone a thief or criminal.. No wonder your team lost the debate.. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck its a duck.. To you its a "mistake", I done my time, I paid my debt & I work hard for everything I have.. A thief is a thief.. Get over yourself I apologize, for name calling. I shouldn't have done that. I'm sorry we've had this disagreement. I should have kept it civil. My sincere apologies.
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Orko Kringer
Saint Louis, MO
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amy researches wrote: <quoted text> Orko, was it you who determined that Maura's cell call after midnight was to Billy and not her sister? I narrowed it down to either Billy or maura's other sister Julie. However, I make the leap that it is billy just by the pattern of maura calling this particular phone number as many times as she does. I talk to my sister about once a week and I would talk to my significant other multiple times a day vie phone if they weren't with me.
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BobJenkins-OG wrote: <quoted text>...I gotta Glock G23 that I'm licensed to carry anywhere in the country & have with me almost always.... Wanna do lunch? My treat.
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