Maura Murray

OKAY wrote:

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I haven't walked in those shoes, but grief-stricken parents typically appeal to the public and provide as many details as possible to assist the media and the public in searching for a loved one. This business of bending and embellishing the truth is highly unusual. It became a circus next to the tot tent many years ago.

I agree- I have said those same sentiments yet got slammed for it- I stuck for the family all the way!! why no acceptance of help offered? Just weird and a red flag to me.

I may have not communicated properly but I tried to make it clear that I wanted to help- answer_ spent to much money already. What ??

Anyway been there but it really ticked me off- don't
get it period. f it were my daughter missing i would welcome the help.

Habs wrote:

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I totally agree Bill. Then u could just refer people to the FAQ instead of answering the same questions over and over. But then what would we talk about? Weather, sports.....

Just don't talk about food and pies. That seems to put some posters boxers in a wad. LOL

WTH-the-original wrote:

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I understand. But I think a correctly constructed FAQ would help people get up to speed, not need to ask the same questions, keep what is known in the realm of the factual world and let people refer to something that is concrete and not continually changing over time because of the equivalent of the telephone game being played over nine years. I mean, that is specifically why people construct FAQs.
Again, JMHO,
Bill

Bill- Really it is ok- nobody is intentionally trying to cause prob here. I get the fact that things get played over and over and Yea I agree with it but I have learned just no to respond until something new comes up.

I think this forum is coming to an end and yes it is sad- Nothing new here to talk about etc.. as far as facts. This forum has gotten personal at times yet I really think people do care about and like each other here. The conversation is in attack mode and has nothing to do with Maura.

Question: Where do we all go from here ?

Can we all agree that this forum is coming to an end unless the gears change? My opinion is that it is to an end unless the arguments stop and general debates and new info comes out. I just don't see new info coming do you all?

JWB wrote:

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Bill- Really it is ok- nobody is intentionally trying to cause prob here. I get the fact that things get played over and over and Yea I agree with it but I have learned just no to respond until something new comes up.
I think this forum is coming to an end and yes it is sad- Nothing new here to talk about etc.. as far as facts. This forum has gotten personal at times yet I really think people do care about and like each other here. The conversation is in attack mode and has nothing to do with Maura.
Question: Where do we all go from here ?

Reality TV show. Topix Twits.

JWB wrote:

Can we all agree that this forum is coming to an end unless the gears change? My opinion is that it is to an end unless the arguments stop and general debates and new info comes out. I just don't see new info coming do you all?

It's been coming to an end for years but yet it keeps going and going just like the Eveready bunny. I don't see anyone arguing JWB.

maybe with the forum slowing down and no new or enlightening information coming out, this would be an opportune time for those so long involved in these discussions to begin putting their energy towards creating a collaborative faq, as has been suggested. i know there are those who value their anonymity here and may not want to risk that by opening up more in a collaborative effort, but it would be such a sad waste of all the valuable information that has been added in these forums to drift away into digital nothingness.

i know there already exist the handful of websites, wikipedia entries and various blogs and social media presences, so i do not know what space there is for an faq to occupy in the universe of information about maura's disappearance. but if it would fill some void in the information readily available, i could see it being a valuable use of energy to create as the steam on these forums begins to slow down.

just a thought.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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It's been coming to an end for years but yet it keeps going and going just like the Eveready bunny. I don't see anyone arguing JWB.

really nobody arguing really Wowzer? where have you been? Hunting Wabbitz?

WTH-the-original wrote:

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I understand. But I think a correctly constructed FAQ would help people get up to speed, not need to ask the same questions, keep what is known in the realm of the factual world and let people refer to something that is concrete and not continually changing over time because of the equivalent of the telephone game being played over nine years. I mean, that is specifically why people construct FAQs.
Again, JMHO,
Bill

Absolutely, yes!, for all the reasons you state. Advocator attempted that enormous task, but I trust it was difficult, even then, to sort true facts from fiction. It was around the time Dawn and I were screaming for FACTS!!!!
I don't want the job. As you once said, there are probably 5 facts, tops. Maybe a few more.

JWB wrote:

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I agree- I have said those same sentiments yet got slammed for it- I stuck for the family all the way!! why no acceptance of help offered? Just weird and a red flag to me.

Just found your post. OMG we agree on something.
And neither of us makes those observations with a mean-spirited heart.
Dawn once offered to help by sending $$, and she was refused. She felt hurt.
Unfortunately, JWB, the manner in which you offered was....sorry to say....strong and insensitive to citi (and Wowzer), but it seems you felt hurt, as well.
A number of people have walked away over the years....folks who not only actively helping, but were turned away during the time of the original MMM forum. There was (and perhaps still is) a trusted inner circle of individuals that surround the family spokesperson/organizer, and they may be privy to a few more details than the public.
I figure it's not my business, and wish them well. I object only when fingers are pointed at individuals with suspicion. I feel only LE can do that.

whatif wrote:

maybe with the forum slowing down and no new or enlightening information coming out, this would be an opportune time for those so long involved in these discussions to begin putting their energy towards creating a collaborative faq, as has been suggested. i know there are those who value their anonymity here and may not want to risk that by opening up more in a collaborative effort, but it would be such a sad waste of all the valuable information that has been added in these forums to drift away into digital nothingness.
i know there already exist the handful of websites, wikipedia entries and various blogs and social media presences, so i do not know what space there is for an faq to occupy in the universe of information about maura's disappearance. but if it would fill some void in the information readily available, i could see it being a valuable use of energy to create as the steam on these forums begins to slow down.
just a thought.

Agree with your post- This forum is going down the drain- no energy here to care about Maura for most- It has turned into a forum of verbal abuse.

With that said, I think we enjoy touching bases etc but it it is really an abusive forum.

I am disappointed in myself for the direction I took and I will admit it.

Where does it go from here?

Crapping on people or being cordial?

JWB wrote:

Can we all agree that this forum is coming to an end unless the gears change? My opinion is that it is to an end unless the arguments stop and general debates and new info comes out. I just don't see new info coming do you all?

Have you not been paying attention to my posts? There's been nothing new for years...just rehashed and recycled misinformation. No one is trying to shut down the conversation. It's just tedious and pointless to go over the same topics so many times. Bill is more patient than I am. He keeps answering, over and over again.
The burst of newbies on the scene and Beagle's vids sure made for some explosive interactions.
It's still not clear to me why there are long time posters, hanger-on-ers and lurkers after so many years.
Hell, ya. Only a real tip will bring about any movement in her disappearance.

whatif wrote:

maybe with the forum slowing down and no new or enlightening information coming out, this would be an opportune time for those so long involved in these discussions to begin putting their energy towards creating a collaborative faq, as has been suggested. i know there are those who value their anonymity here and may not want to risk that by opening up more in a collaborative effort, but it would be such a sad waste of all the valuable information that has been added in these forums to drift away into digital nothingness.
i know there already exist the handful of websites, wikipedia entries and various blogs and social media presences, so i do not know what space there is for an faq to occupy in the universe of information about maura's disappearance. but if it would fill some void in the information readily available, i could see it being a valuable use of energy to create as the steam on these forums begins to slow down.
just a thought.

FYI, Wiki is Advocator's work. I'll stand corrected if anyone jumps in to contradict.
Nite all.

OKAY wrote:

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Just found your post. OMG we agree on something.
And neither of us makes those observations with a mean-spirited heart.
Dawn once offered to help by sending $$, and she was refused. She felt hurt.
Unfortunately, JWB, the manner in which you offered was....sorry to say....strong and insensitive to citi (and Wowzer), but it seems you felt hurt, as well.
A number of people have walked away over the years....folks who not only actively helping, but were turned away during the time of the original MMM forum. There was (and perhaps still is) a trusted inner circle of individuals that surround the family spokesperson/organizer, and they may be privy to a few more details than the public.
I figure it's not my business, and wish them well. I object only when fingers are pointed at individuals with suspicion. I feel only LE can do that.

Yes I agree That I couold have done it differently.

Listen_ My heart is big and I have lost my entire family over the last few years and I am hurting and reaching out. That is no excuse however and I know that.

Anyhow- I am big enough to move on in a more positive way. I really care about others is all I can say and that is why I am here.

OKAY wrote:

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Have you not been paying attention to my posts? There's been nothing new for years...just rehashed and recycled misinformation. No one is trying to shut down the conversation. It's just tedious and pointless to go over the same topics so many times. Bill is more patient than I am. He keeps answering, over and over again.
The burst of newbies on the scene and Beagle's vids sure made for some explosive interactions.
It's still not clear to me why there are long time posters, hanger-on-ers and lurkers after so many years.
Hell, ya. Only a real tip will bring about any movement in her disappearance.

I read you posts and agree with you in my post that you responded to? Did I not?

wow - I agree with someone and still gety slammed!!! That is how screwed up this forum is.

thanks, okay. i appreciate you making that connection for me.

I think conversation has taken a turn for the best tonight? I have given the olive branch. I know I am not the only one conversing here but I really want things to another way and i have mentioned this many times before.

Anyone interested? ha ha- Let JWB send you a link to one of his songs he likes as a token to say hey let it go JWB.

I know it is about maura here and I would like to keep it that way but We can talk other things too such as waffle house and JWB songs. or whatever right? Just keep Maura going !! I hope she is alive.

You could make a new thread titled "MM FAQ's" .. Sure some people will ruin it but it will take a lot of typing & will prolly take 2-4 post, so if someone does it in the background & postes it all at once, than the commenters can just go away.. Or host it on a blog with comments closed..

Im at this moment, hiding in the Xhibiton club at Harrahs Resort AC with security all around me cus I got soooo tired of people.. especially tryna "pet" my Alpaca coat.. I wanna go home.. Earliest flight is in the am unless I can get this guy to let me go with him on his G4 ina few hours.. I hadda perform on the other side where d boardwalk is & figured id he safe here.. Not the case.. These people are more annyoing than anything.. & all this "doot doot doot doot shiss shisss shiss" is on my last nerve..