Maura Murray

rozShoem wrote:

<quoted text>
I believe there was another Salamone, too, who graduated in 2004...the same date that Maura was to have graduated, the same commencement ceremony. I recognized the surname as being the same as the owners of the condo. Same spelling, etc. Found a couple of additional connections regarding this name and MM name as well.

Your out of control agent 35DSAX!

WTH-the-original wrote:

<quoted text>
Uhhhh, wait a minute. I never suggested that she couldn't rent a condo. Someone, was suggesting that she was BUYING a condo before. That was what I thought was an absurd proposition.
Bill

Rent, buy, lease...... We do not know what transpired. It might be best to stick to stating that a phone call was made from her cell phone. We do not know if she made the call. She may have or she may not have....someone else might have made the call. She may have been inquiring about a condo or she may not have. Someone else may have been inquiring about a condo or someone might have been. The conversation might not have been about a condo. All we know based on a phone bill is that a call was made from her cell phone to that other number.

Green Door wrote:

<quoted text>
Your out of control agent 35DSAX!

Evidentally this got a response! Why?

Pointless Endeavor wrote:

<quoted text>
http://sites.google.com/site/mikesalamone/Hom...
Is he directly related to the condo owners? Probably not.
Wasn't Maura scheduled to graduate in May 2005? She's listed in the UMass 2004 commencement program. Did she acquire enough credits to receive her Bachelors degree earlier than expected?
http://www.umass.edu/commencement/2004/2004pr...

The most interesting aspect of this case is all of the questions that have never been answered. It's as though a few solid facts were identified and then little scenarios, stories were created to fit them. The phone records for example. It took Mrs. R. to discover a phone call had been made from Maura's cell phone to Bartlett. The part about the condo. That may or may not have happened. That is not an absolute like a phone number on a statement. However, it seems that many accepted the idea that she had inquired about a condo. Then the story about her suiciding. Where on earth did that come from? From that book? I wonder how many copies of that book have sold. Really....and of course those who enjoyed reading that book did not all run out and suicide. Maura loved the mountains. I read something she'd written when she was 15-years old about the mountains. What she had written conveyed much about her character. She is a young woman of strong character, of substance. I laughed about something she'd written in the note and it provided insight as to her love of stories.

Green Door wrote:

<quoted text>
Your out of control agent 35DSAX!

You seem to be really focused on control. Bet you love control, don't you? Right. Well, sometimes one cannot control all things even though they would like to believe that they may have. Even though one would rather like to believe that he got away with something. So buckle up and try to be open to another perspective. It's relatively painless.

Snowy wrote:

<quoted text>
yes....she was, by one account, about to purchase a 'getaway', if i recall....as a college student.....with $280. in hand, and waiting on an additional check for a week's work.
priceless.

Basically, something really stinks about that condo story.

Pointless Endeavor wrote:

<quoted text>
http://sites.google.com/site/mikesalamone/Hom...
Is he directly related to the condo owners? Probably not.
Wasn't Maura scheduled to graduate in May 2005? She's listed in the UMass 2004 commencement program. Did she acquire enough credits to receive her Bachelors degree earlier than expected?
http://www.umass.edu/commencement/2004/2004pr...

I noticed today that my website was getting a lot of traffic directed from this forum. To answer this poster's question, I am not, to my knowledge, related to the condo owners in question -- no one in my family has ever mentioned a Linda or Dominic, I've never heard of any family property in New Hampshire. I also never knew (nor heard of) Maura Murray. Apparently we were at UMass at the same time, but it's a very big school. In fact, everything I know about this case I just learned in the last few minutes from this message board.

Just wanted to clear that up. Good luck with your search

Pointless Endeavor wrote:

<quoted text>
http://sites.google.com/site/mikesalamone/Hom...
Is he directly related to the condo owners? Probably not.
Wasn't Maura scheduled to graduate in May 2005? She's listed in the UMass 2004 commencement program. Did she acquire enough credits to receive her Bachelors degree earlier than expected?
http://www.umass.edu/commencement/2004/2004pr...

I'd assumed she would have been graduating in 2004 based on what I'd read. Maybe it wasn't 2004, but I believe I'd read 2004 in more than one site. There must have been two Michael S's????? One just posted in this forum and it sounds like there is no connection. So there must be two of them. The one Maura was in the same race with way back when went by Mike. It's strange there'd be two of them. Maybe they graduated in different years than Maura???? or each other. The one in the same race with her in Boston was way back when. In 1995 or 1996???? They must have been about 15-years old. It was held in Boston (Bay something?????) So it was nice they ended up on the same campus years later. A small world. Can't recall the rest of what the race was called but it was in Boston. Maura worked for student security at UMASS. The other Mike was a resident assistant? So it sounds like it's not the same guy. Maybe that's how she had contact with him. I think people in security and resident assistants work closely. Maybe someone should check with the other Mike. That might have been an internal call and that's why there was nothing on the college phone records except the call where she and her sister spoke (external call). Who knows. Anyway, maybe someone should try to determine where the other Michael/Mike? is. Maybe he is missing, too, for all anyone knows. It's certainly a mystery about Maura.

Green Door wrote:

<quoted text>
Your out of control agent 35DSAX!

Green Door,
Did you know the other Mike S? Bet you might have..... Right?

WTH-the-original wrote:

<quoted text>
Uhhhh, wait a minute. I never suggested that she couldn't rent a condo. Someone, was suggesting that she was BUYING a condo before. That was what I thought was an absurd proposition.
Bill

Hi WTF (Bill),
Wow! Have you notice all of the new people that are joining us? LOL. Yes! Wasn't it you who told me that you were in charge of searches? Maybe MM's too, I cannot recall for sure. That's a different role I guess than the role of an investigator? Anyway, do you think investigators might have checked around to find the other Mike S? It seems there may be two of them. One posted tonight saying he did not know Maura and has no connection to the owners of the condo, etc....but the other Mike was a resident assistant and Maura worked for student security. It's this one that maybe the investigators might try to locate. They could always check w/campus officials regarding security cameras (they have well over 200 of them that monitor the dorms/residence halls). Maybe they could identify the Mike S. that Maura had contact with as I believe he worked as a resident assistant (R.A.). It just seems SO odd that investigators would not have checked into this years ago. Maybe they were more focused on the forest area around Grafton County where Maura was last seen. I can understand why they'd focus on that area. If no one knows where the other Mike S. is or cannot find him...maybe something happened to him too. Who knows. This entire case is so very strange.

Me again. I decided to check back, so I might as well clear a few more things up:

rozShoem wrote:

<quoted text>
One just posted in this forum and it sounds like there is no connection. So there must be two of them. The one Maura was in the same race with way back when went by Mike. It's strange there'd be two of them.

As far as I know, I was the only Michael Salamone at UMass when I was there. I suppose I could be wrong. Also, I do go by Mike.

rozShoem wrote:

<quoted text>
Maura worked for student security at UMASS. The other Mike was a resident assistant? So it sounds like it's not the same guy. Maybe that's how she had contact with him. I think people in security and resident assistants work closely. Maybe someone should check with the other Mike.

I was a Resident Assistant in the UMass dorms, and I definitely know that no one else with my name was also. The security desk people and the RAs didn't work closely together -- there was some communication but not that much. I don't remember ever meeting a Maura there, but again, the RA staff and the security staff weren't close, so it's possible I did meet her briefly and forgot.

Not sure if this helps your search at all or not, but I figure I'd contribute the information I have.

rozShoem wrote:

<quoted text>
Green Door,
Did you know the other Mike S? Bet you might have..... Right?

Shame. I don't need to know your suspect de jour to take great offense at the unjustified prodding you feel justified in continuing to persue. You're actually oblivious to the collateral damage you might cause to people like Mike, who, if that is him, has been polite, although pointlessly bothered.

You have made your choice and I will continue to choose to protest should I feel it warranted.

Green Door wrote:

<quoted text>
Shame. I don't need to know your suspect de jour to take great offense at the unjustified prodding you feel justified in continuing to persue. You're actually oblivious to the collateral damage you might cause to people like Mike, who, if that is him, has been polite, although pointlessly bothered.
You have made your choice and I will continue to choose to protest should I feel it warranted.

well stated. very well stated.

imagine, Green Door...Roz has no conscience, no shame, and offers no apology for taking the name of an individual from the public domain to beef up a connection to....you guessed it.....Maura Murray.
a truly disgusting endeavor...but one that preserves the identity of the accuser, never the accused.
if it looks like a duck...and acts like a duck....

Green Door wrote:

<quoted text>
Shame. I don't need to know your suspect de jour to take great offense at the unjustified prodding you feel justified in continuing to persue. You're actually oblivious to the collateral damage you might cause to people like Mike, who, if that is him, has been polite, although pointlessly bothered.
You have made your choice and I will continue to choose to protest should I feel it warranted.

"Shame?" Aren't you being just a bit over-reactive? "Collateral damage?" Your most interesting phrase is "continuing to persue..." Evidentally, you've been sitting on the sidelines, holding your breath for quite sometime. Damage? It seems that the "damage" had already occurred back in 2004. Your interests apparently are to protect. Mine are to persue the truth in terms of what happened to Maura. In my opinion, the "shame" rests with those who continue to divert reasonable attempts to discover what actually happened to this young woman. My belief is that Maura had her life snuffed out. She had her whole life in front of her. Who protected her? Who "bothered" to come to her assistance? No one. There evidentally is more than one individual involved in this whole mess....and mess it is. It's just a matter of time before he will be identified as well as those who know what happened to Maura.

roz,

As it turns out we can see that there is only one Mike S. Why are you so desperate to make a connection where there is none? Why try to invent a second Mike? You could see for yourself by checking the link (if you bothered) to the 2004 commencement program that there was only one. I'm sure the PIs or CC investigators would've looked at a secondary acquaintance connection to the condo owners as well if they thought necessary. In my opinion it's not. Her connection to the condo owners has already been historically established. It is what it is. A simple call made from Maura's phone, corroborated by Linda S. herself as an inquiry for lodging as reported in news media and the Discovery ID program. Accept it and move on.

A little friendly criticism: You seemed so much more intuitive with your profiling ability. Maybe you should stick with that.

Snowy wrote:

imagine, Green Door...Roz has no conscience, no shame, and offers no apology for taking the name of an individual from the public domain to beef up a connection to....you guessed it.....Maura Murray.
a truly disgusting endeavor...but one that preserves the identity of the accuser, never the accused.
if it looks like a duck...and acts like a duck....

Snowy,
It sounds as though there may be some "ducks" (your word not mine)on this site who know one another and may know what happened to Maura but are not coming forward. Disgusting? You bet. There are a lot of things about this case that go far beyond disgusting in my opinion. Rest assured, however, that shame and ridicule efforts, techniques are ineffectual in attempting to divert my interest in this case.

Pointless Endeavor wrote:

roz,
As it turns out we can see that there is only one Mike S. Why are you so desperate to make a connection where there is none? Why try to invent a second Mike? You could see for yourself by checking the link (if you bothered) to the 2004 commencement program that there was only one. I'm sure the PIs or CC investigators would've looked at a secondary acquaintance connection to the condo owners as well if they thought necessary. In my opinion it's not. Her connection to the condo owners has already been historically established. It is what it is. A simple call made from Maura's phone, corroborated by Linda S. herself as an inquiry for lodging as reported in news media and the Discovery ID program. Accept it and move on.
A little friendly criticism: You seemed so much more intuitive with your profiling ability. Maybe you should stick with that.

Linda L, I believe had commented that she wished she could have remembered more of the conversation but that phone call conversation had occurred so long ago. I agree that approximately 8 months would be a lengthy period of time for someone to remember everything that was said in a short, approximately 3-minute phone call. It was impressive that she was able to recall that Maura had inquired specifically about availability of a condo, given the length of time that had passed. I would imagine there are many calls because that is certainly a beautiful area. Therefore, might the possibility exist that the conversation about the condo may have been from another person interested in a condo? Regarding your assessment of my "profiling ability,"...thank you. However, I have many other abilities and choose to use them. Thank you for all of your interesting, spontaneous concern.

Pointless Endeavor wrote:

roz,
As it turns out we can see that there is only one Mike S. Why are you so desperate to make a connection where there is none? Why try to invent a second Mike? You could see for yourself by checking the link (if you bothered) to the 2004 commencement program that there was only one. I'm sure the PIs or CC investigators would've looked at a secondary acquaintance connection to the condo owners as well if they thought necessary. In my opinion it's not. Her connection to the condo owners has already been historically established. It is what it is. A simple call made from Maura's phone, corroborated by Linda S. herself as an inquiry for lodging as reported in news media and the Discovery ID program. Accept it and move on.
A little friendly criticism: You seemed so much more intuitive with your profiling ability. Maybe you should stick with that.

Pointless Endeavor,
Sorry...I forgot to respond to your comment, "I'm sure the PIs or CC investigators would've looked at a secondary acquaintance connection to the condo owners as well if they thought necessary." While you apparently may believe this may be the case, I have reservations about this based on previous information. My recollection is that it was Mrs. R who discovered the Bartlett(?) phone number on phone records. Had it not been for Mrs. R's attention to detail and follow-up, no one would have known about that call. Past behavior is a good predictor of future behavior. Therefore, based on how authorities overlooked the phone number, I'm not so sure they would have looked at secondary acquaintance, etc., as you state. The only fact about the whole phone call is that a call was made from Maura's cell phone to that number. The rest is based on a person's memory.......and we have the person telling us that she wished she could recall more, that it had been such a long time since that phone call. Eight months is a long period of time.

Hello again. Now that you've got me hooked on this story, there's one more thing I ought to clear up:

rozShoem wrote:

<quoted text>
The one in the same race with her in Boston was way back when. In 1995 or 1996???? They must have been about 15-years old. It was held in Boston (Bay something?????) So it was nice they ended up on the same campus years later. A small world.

I think this is me, too. I ran cross-country in high school ('96-'00), and the Bay State Invitational was a big race for all the high school teams in the area. If Maura also ran high school XC, it's likely she would have been there too. I never met her there -- this was a race with literally hundreds of people running in it.

Also, I'm confused about what the supposed connection between me (or another Mike Salamone) and the missing girl is. I understand that she called someone with my last name (though unrelated to me) before she disappeared, and, coincidentally, she and I attended the same university at the same time. How did that turn into speculation that she contacted me (or someone with same name as me)?

This sounds like a tragic story, and I wish you all the best in uncovering what happened. Unfortunately, all I can do to help is to let you know that I'm a dead end in your search.