Maura Murray

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James Renner

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That's one of the many things I'm still looking into.

Yes, there will be new info in the book. But if I get any earth-shattering news before publication I will share it on the blog, first. No reason to withhold anything important.
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James, If you could check out if Maura had shoes that were like bowling shoes. I believe they were half red, half navy or dk green. Very important to me.

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Here’s a missing poster showing the bowling-style shoes. Apparently Maura’s were black with white stripes, not the grey-blue shown, but nonetheless the same style:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/65640533 @N07/7579774076/in/photostream

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If the above link doesn't work, go to the scoops22 account on Flickr and scroll through the 25 pictures to find the Missing poster showing shoes, backpack and cell phone.
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James,

I have followed a lot of your blogs, Maura, Amy and Lisa.
I have a question for you and I don't ask it with animosity; What is your justification for Putting so many names out there in Amy's case? You seem to run hot on Runkle, then it's on to someone else and then back to Runkle.I can understand putting people who have been convicted of a crime out there, but, and I could be wrong here, Dean has never been convicted of anything. It's my understanding that he was never charged in the case you mention of his former student. What if it turns out that he really did have nothing to do with Amy's murder?
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Frostman wrote:
If the above link doesn't work, go to the scoops22 account on Flickr and scroll through the 25 pictures to find the Missing poster showing shoes, backpack and cell phone.
Thank You Frostman but those are not the shoes that I am asking about. I would just like to know if any of her friends saw the shoes I describe being worned by Maura.
Aftermath

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There WAS a flat tire on Maura's car. There WAS a flat tire on Pam Webb's truck. Deny all you wish, but both vehicles had a flat tire. Slow leaks.
Aftermath

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hannah_b wrote:
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A L-derry, VT ping fits with the route we "know" (have been told) she travelled. Someone elses phone was pinging off the L-derry, NH tower.
That "ping" occurred when someone driving north into New Hampshire from the WAKEFIELD/BOSTON area got within about a 23 mile range of the Londonderry NH Sprint tower. Now who did Maura know around there? Those little day trips to Boston even back while she was in high school. Let's see..... Wakefield, Bartlett, Boston???????
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Aftermath wrote:
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That "ping" occurred when someone driving north into New Hampshire from the WAKEFIELD/BOSTON area got within about a 23 mile range of the Londonderry NH Sprint tower. Now who did Maura know around there? Those little day trips to Boston even back while she was in high school. Let's see..... Wakefield, Bartlett, Boston???????
How does that make any sense?

I'm sure a lot of cell phones were pinging off the Londenderry NH Tower that afternoon.

Is that how police locate a missing person?

They gather up info on all the pings going on at a particular random tower and then one by one try to connect them to their missing subject.

Common sense would say that if you are investigating a missing person you are INTERESTED IN THE PERSON THAT IS MISSING'S phone and when it pings and when it doesn't ping.

But I guess I am missing something.
James Renner

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Ridiculous wrote:
James,
I have followed a lot of your blogs, Maura, Amy and Lisa.
I have a question for you and I don't ask it with animosity; What is your justification for Putting so many names out there in Amy's case? You seem to run hot on Runkle, then it's on to someone else and then back to Runkle.I can understand putting people who have been convicted of a crime out there, but, and I could be wrong here, Dean has never been convicted of anything. It's my understanding that he was never charged in the case you mention of his former student. What if it turns out that he really did have nothing to do with Amy's murder?
My litmus test for deciding who to name on the blogs is whether those people have ever been proven to show violence toward women or children. Runkle was investigated multiple times for inappropriate behavior with students. Several students of his have come forward saying he crossed the line. And we have letters from him to one of his students that were sexual in nature.

Runkle is still very much a suspect in Amy's case.
Aftermath

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Orko Kringer wrote:
"Common sense would say that if you are investigating a missing person you are INTERESTED IN THE PERSON THAT IS MISSING'S phone and when it pings and when it doesn't ping.
But I guess I am missing something."

Given that it's years later, undoubtedly "common" sense is not what is needed. Maybe we should give "uncommon" sense a little try. I am curious as to what type of cell phone Maura owned and even more curious as to the cell phone's features.
Aftermath

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OKAY wrote:
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huge, active conspiracy going on here {sarcasm} diverting away from essential conversation going nowhere 9 years later. the participants are being paid per post, and the trolls want to end this immensely important conversation. yeah, they can really make that happen!!
uhhhh, i don't believe her route of travel has ever been established; at least, what's known to the public.
lots of tidbits, but no bites.
try again.
OKAY,
I do not believe the conspiracy theory and have never seen a troll (seeing is believing?)....don't believe the alien theory or that she was the victim of researchers. Do not believe the route the Saturn took is that important. Actually, I'm more interested in her cell phone, what kind it was and it's features.
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Orko Kringer wrote:
From an article done by Sophisticated Edge on Cell Phone pinging
It does note that cell phones can be traced even when the phone is off.
Once again cell phone pings are done to trace phones they are not done to trace phone calls back to the person that called a phone.
"Pinging is done automatically, especially whenever a cell phone is turned on. It is the pinging technology that enables cell phones to work, and this makes it legal. However, how the pinged information is attained, whom it is attained by, and how it is utilized determines the legitimacy of the pinging.
Emergency calls to 911 systems automatically transfer the caller's location, and other information considered necessary for assisting the individual. Law enforcement agents may obtain the pinging records of any cell phone if they get a warrant or subpoena issued first. To obtain a warrant, the agent must prove just or probable cause in a criminal investigation.
Anyone else seeking pinging records must have prior consent from the owner of the cell phone. The cell phone owner must give the service provider consent to release information to those specific individuals.
Benefits of Pinging
Pinging has assisted law enforcement agencies in capturing drug traffickers, murders, and other criminals. It has assisted with search and rescue operations, and medical emergencies. With newer models of cell phones having GPS chips and microphone capabilities installed, police can locate a person quickly. They are also able to listen in on everything going on around the cell phone, even when it is turned off."
The shit LE can do with cell phones is crazy nowadays, especially the Feds. People think turning off their phone solves the problem but they are sooooo wrong. The only way around it is to actually take the battery out of the phone.
Trust me, there's been many a drug trafficker that's been caught because of this technology. Certain federal agencies have phones they call 'black phones', originally it was just the secret service but now all of the agencies are gettin them. The shit they can do with the black phones are unbelievable, use it as a mic when the phone is turned off, and it can basically clone someone's phone, any call or text that's made or received from the target's phone goes to the black phone too, it's crazy. I've never gotten to use one but I've seen it in action and it's phenomenal technology
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Orko Kringer wrote:
"But after further research, I found out it was impossible for her to have gone I-93.

She could not make it into range of londonderry NH by 4:37 p.m. for starters."

Orko,
I agree with the above.
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Orko Kringer wrote:
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How does that make any sense?
I'm sure a lot of cell phones were pinging off the Londenderry NH Tower that afternoon.
Is that how police locate a missing person?
They gather up info on all the pings going on at a particular random tower and then one by one try to connect them to their missing subject.
Common sense would say that if you are investigating a missing person you are INTERESTED IN THE PERSON THAT IS MISSING'S phone and when it pings and when it doesn't ping.
But I guess I am missing something.
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Probably thousands of calls pinged that tower that afternoon.
But LE does NOT jus randomly pick towers. No need to. They would know exactly what towers Maura's phone pinged or anyone who called hers pinged.

Obviously pings can be a great way to locate a missing person, it's been used quite successfully many times.
But in addition to that, It can also be used to find someone who tried to call her and there whereabouts, and more importantly for this case, it can find the # of someone who tried to call her but never got connected. Which was the point of that affidavit.
Cell phone pings can be used many different ways in missin persons cases and murder cases, many more than simply tryin to locate the missin person.
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Through out the last 8 years of discussion about Maura's footwear were many photographs. Not even mentioning the shoes hugged by Maura's sister in the motel.
Through out the last years of discussion about Maura's cell phone, there were photographs.
Those of you who are knowldgeable, go for it. All I recall is there was no GPS.
I would search for links to shoes and cell phone
info. but, I am tired.
What happened to Maura, shoes and cell phone...!
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Aftermath wrote:
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That "ping" occurred when someone driving north into New Hampshire from the WAKEFIELD/BOSTON area got within about a 23 mile range of the Londonderry NH Sprint tower. Now who did Maura know around there? Those little day trips to Boston even back while she was in high school. Let's see..... Wakefield, Bartlett, Boston???????
Hey aftermath- how could you possibly know this person was travelling up from the Wakefield or Boston area? Obviously if this person was travelling up they were coming from eastern mass but why do you say Wakefield? How do you know it wasn't Lowell? Or Worcester, or the south shore, RI, anywhere in the eastern half of the state where you would take 93 instead of 91?

How do you know this stuff? Do you have any sorry of info to back this up or are we just supposed to take you at your word?
I'm not trying to get on your case, I agree with most of what you say and think you're a valuable contributor here. Just sometimes you say things that just make me wonder how the hell you could possibly know it unless you are much more closely related to this case than anyone thinks.
Shack

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Aftermath wrote:
Orko Kringer wrote:
"But after further research, I found out it was impossible for her to have gone I-93.
She could not make it into range of londonderry NH by 4:37 p.m. for starters."
Orko,
I agree with the above.
YES, of course.....
Aftermath

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Shack wrote:
My Mom and Dad are from that area...Piermont,Bradford, Vt.
How can I not be embarrased that this could
happen without any resolution.
This area was my utopia.
Shack,
Why was the FBI restricted to asking questions in MA? I see a lot of cases in other states where local LE when confronted with similar missing person cases, turn them over to the FBI. Have all of the residents who lived along that stretch of highway where the accident occurred moved away or do some still live there? I know SBD moved to FL and passed away.
Ridiculous

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Dec 10, 2012
 
Thanks for the response James.

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