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WTH-the-original wrote:

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The part that is actually the funniest in this little note from Shack is why she didn't just claim that the first thing out of Fred's mouth wasn't "a dirtbag got her". I have nothing for or against the family but I am also not obliged to filter any of my thoughts on them or in particular their nitwit, non-compensated, pseudo-representatives.
I might suggest you take aspirin for any headaches and Midol for any cramps, and then explain how you know what "most" families do in that situation. I assume that you have authored a study on what most of them do, can point to references? Or are you just talking out of your ass?
And it always strikes me as funny that people can't seem to understand the difference when police say "that there is no evidence of an abduction" and then having people interpret it as, "authorities often immediately determine they're dealing with a runaway or suicide, sometimes both." And on the other side of that you have others accusing locals by name, they see nothing wrong with that. Amazing.
Again, I wish I had more time because while most of what I have read is both harmless, and useless, I see certain elements creeping in that might have to be squashed - again. I will catch as catch can but might not be able to squash all of the stupidity. I have seen some other very capable people here with high intelligence and a low tolerance for stupid, so there is still hope that this won't devolve into what it was before.
Bill

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Orko Kringer wrote:

I have to clairfy a few things and admit that I was wrong.
I heard back from Maribeth and she believes (going off memory) that she got the tidbit about maura checking her phone for messages from maura's phone records.
I am still confused as heck about the affadavit (Maribeth never saw that). And I guess I really don't understand how cell phone pinging works and why you would do it.
Also, to make it crystal clear, I have never been in a partnership with James Renner. I believe I have explained that before, but in case I hadn't ...
I was interested in the case well before he even knew who maura murray was. I began publically commenting on the case at about the same time he began his blog.
We did discuss the case amongst ourselves and I did offer to provide him with the use of my photos for his book or blog.
But that is as far as it has gone.
I am a professional journalist and have been one for over 12 years.
He is a book author who likes to tell a good story. Period.
Hope that clears some things up and I apologize if i have mis-lead.
I haven't decided how I will continue on the subject of Maura. I have several people I would like to personally interview. I feel like there has been a lot of mis-steps done in getting the story out (Different than discussing the case on a message board) but I don't really have the means to go about getting it done.

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JWB wrote:

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It takes a stand up person to admit when you are wrong and I commend you for it. It's ok so we move on from here at least we now know for certain where that piece of info came from.
The process might not have been pretty but in the end the truth came out.

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Orko Kringer wrote:

I have to clairfy a few things and admit that I was wrong.
I heard back from Maribeth and she believes (going off memory) that she got the tidbit about maura checking her phone for messages from maura's phone records.
I am still confused as heck about the affadavit (Maribeth never saw that). And I guess I really don't understand how cell phone pinging works and why you would do it.
Also, to make it crystal clear, I have never been in a partnership with James Renner. I believe I have explained that before, but in case I hadn't ...
I was interested in the case well before he even knew who maura murray was. I began publically commenting on the case at about the same time he began his blog.
We did discuss the case amongst ourselves and I did offer to provide him with the use of my photos for his book or blog.
But that is as far as it has gone.
I am a professional journalist and have been one for over 12 years.
He is a book author who likes to tell a good story. Period.
Hope that clears some things up and I apologize if i have mis-lead.
I haven't decided how I will continue on the subject of Maura. I have several people I would like to personally interview. I feel like there has been a lot of mis-steps done in getting the story out (Different than discussing the case on a message board) but I don't really have the means to go about getting it done.

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Orko Kringer wrote:

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I do want to make it clear that concerning the affadavit, I will just say proceed with caution.
None of us know the proper context of that affadavit. It could have led to absolutely nothing.(I have no reason to think its not authentic however).

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Orko Kringer wrote:

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I do want to make it clear that concerning the affadavit, I will just say proceed with caution.
None of us know the proper context of that affadavit. It could have led to absolutely nothing.(I have no reason to think its not authentic however).

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hannah_b wrote:

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The affidavit... I remeber local poster White Wash finding it at the court house, written on a plain white piece of paper with no official stationery like the others. It was just stuck in the file, not organized like the others. I believe that´s what made some posters specualate it was fake and "planted". Apparently Landry has since confirmed its authenticity and I´m not questioning that. I just thought it´s one more of all the strange or odd stuff about this case.
I take it you´re criticizing Renner´s integrity?
One thing I would love to see straightened out is all the inconsistencies in FM´s statements to media vs police etc, like his account of the night of the Hadley crash. I guess that will never happen.

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Aftermath wrote:

<quoted text>Usually if police have even the slightest notion that an abduction is involved

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JWB wrote:

My take on the affidavit is that LT Landry was speaking with sprint about maura phone records and asked them to look into any other data related to her phone number that wouldn't show up on the records. It appears sprint security told them about a call to Maura that went to the londonderry tower and probably didn't continue because her phone was off. They probably told Lt landry that he needed a search warrant to obtain further details on that call and so the affidavit.
The thing that I find odd is the affidavit I would think should have been kept in a case file and not released.Just my take on it

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WTH-the-original wrote:

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What?? You mean that the police thought that this was just a case of a girl drinking, crashing her car, and then running from it? And by thought, meaning that is what actually happened?
NEWS FLASH EVERYONE. It appears that Aftermath's astute observations and incredible insight has cracked the case.
And when I have time I'll address the absurd concept that anyone who dissents must be involved in the grand conspiracy. People who write things like that, in particular, with no proof, usually, it is indicative of someone with a very weak mind who has troubles with concepts that are even slightly complex.
Bill

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Orko Kringer wrote:

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I have honestly considered (in recent weeks) of calling sprint security myself and getting some info from them, but it is difficult to explain that I am a journalist yet not hired to work on the maura murray case, yet would love to get some info. I don't have an official capacity so, it limits me in being able to get some real investigating done.
I may still call sprint security and just ask for some general information anyhoo.

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Orko Kringer wrote:

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I have honestly considered (in recent weeks) of calling sprint security myself and getting some info from them, but it is difficult to explain that I am a journalist yet not hired to work on the maura murray case, yet would love to get some info. I don't have an official capacity so, it limits me in being able to get some real investigating done.
I may still call sprint security and just ask for some general information anyhoo.

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Aftermath wrote:

Everyone was so dedicated to the snowy woods of Rte 112, no one.........absolutely no one considered the Fairlee VT area. That guy most likely had the highway worn out delivering bodies there from the Claremont area years ago. Talk about a tragic travesty. He has nostalgic feelings for northern VT...some kind of attachment to the Craftsbury Common area....at some point launched himself into the Claremont area and almost wore out the I-91 stretch of highway. There is some connectedness to Fairlee and it happened long ago before he had to head there on the evening of 2/9. The connection? I do not know. From the interstates to wooded areas...he's very comfortable in the woods even at night.