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Snowy wrote:

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conversely,you cannot be certain that an improper father / daughter relationship ddn't exist, or that the magazine and photos were "ever seen or touched by Fred Murray".

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Snowy wrote:

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it's Kurtis with a "K", just fyi. Renner touches on some of the subjects that have been discussed on topix (again) over the last day.
http://mauramurray.blogspot.com/2011/08/famil...
this quote is from Websleuths...which i consider not to be a primary source of information....but it's interesting....even if the significance is reaching or the marked page was just chance / inadvertent. again, everything has been reviewed over several online places in many years.
11-13-2005, 04:41 PM
docwho3
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Ok now some additional facts to mix in with my impressions of this case:
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The chapter of Nicholas Howe's book,Not Without Peril, which Mara had marked with a card was titled "A Question of Life or Death'' is book-marked with a Hallmark card and a photograph of Maura's brother Kurtis in a Little League uniform.
The intro to that chapter reads (I bolded parts for emphasis & transcribed as best I could. Please forgive any typos):
"We try to make our lives safe. For every hazard there are warnings and barriers,for every bold assertion there are fallback positions,for every fallible device there are back-up systems and redundancies. Children go forth to play girded with armor for their head,face,teeth,elbows,knees, and any other part that may suffer assault. I've seen a step ladder with eighteen warning labels pasted to it,another with a six part lesson on how to avoid falling off, with attendant diagrams. If all else fails we go to court;when a piece of bridge masonry fell through the top of a convertible,the driver sued the car company for making a cloth top that wouldn't keep out falling masonry. So when we talk about questions of life or death, we usually don't mean it.
There do come times,though,perhaps only once in a lifetime,when we're really up against it,when there're no manual or guide or precedent,when we really do have to answer a question of life or death. The crew at Madison Hut had to do that one evening just as they were serving dinner to a full house,they were all college age and they were up against it."
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no, not mean and incendiary.
the bigger picture will include all of the features of her relationships and life before her disappearance, to include her her familial history, as well as circumstances up to and may include stranger intervention along the way to NH and beyond.
again, Renner, as an investigative journalist, is able to commit to the inquiry in spite of the push-back and resistance by those who refuse to accept Maura's life and relationships were more complicated than they appeared to be at first glance.
promoting the "All American Girl" image would not have been necessary under ordinary circumstances if her family had been honest and up front to the media. it was unnecessary to label her as flawless; she was significantly accomplished such that the public would not have lost interest if her father and family had been forthcoming.

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Orko Kringer wrote:

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I agree. Casual observer and tinky binky also have sex with farm animals. Well I can't prove it, but I also can't prove that they don't, so might as well throw that out there and see if it sticks.

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Orko Kringer wrote:

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Book author/blogger and investigative journalist are completely not the same thing. Anyone can be a book author.

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Orko Kringer wrote:

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Book author/blogger and investigative journalist are completely not the same thing. Anyone can be a book author.

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Bink Winky wrote:

<quoted text>anyone can TRY to be a book author, but not everyone can. You need funding and loans from a publisher who thinks your book will generate a profit. Renner has proven this with previous books. Thanks for the slam, Clint. I'm off to have sex with my goat.

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Snowy wrote:

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i feel certain Renner can split hairs with you and defend his own resume.

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Bink Winky wrote:

<quoted text> Thanks for the slam, Clint. I'm off to have sex with my goat.

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Snowy wrote:

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in case you previously missed this, here's a goat's reply to you. i think you need to be more convincing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Does anyone know Spanish? Did he ask the goat for sex? An does anyone speak goat? I think the goat said No but not positive.

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Fred Garvin wrote:

Snowy - Thanks for the reply, I appreciate it.
I owned a business that employed many high-school and college aged kids and they all lied when it suited them. I never wonder too deeply about lying other than to say it is used to to get favorable outcomes, hide behavior, and/or create an image.
You bring up a good question. What support system could MM have in Canada? Distant relatives, college friends, cohorts from military school?
Also the failed attempt at a cabin rental makes me curious if she found other more suitable plans.

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All you need is funding.

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JWB wrote:

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Orky- You come across very angry with JR as if something took place in your past . I had the vibe originally that you wanted to show up JR and write your own Book just to make him look bad. I think you really lost most people here with your whole londonderry VT thing.
In my opinion , you have really stubbed your toe and you are mad about that. You can be a good contributor but just need to step back a tad and let your dislike for JR go. Are you concerned about Maura or just advancing you career? Neither is working at the moment.
I just can't wrap my head around the way that you dealt with the Londonderry Vt thing and then turn around and bash renner for just saying how he looked upon the disappearance of Maura. I am sure that he has far more information than we are aware of. I am sure that many have contacted him that really don't want to post on Topix.

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Orko Kringer wrote:

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I really don't think that much about James Renner. He seems to think I am obsessed with him or want to be like him and that is not at all the case.
Comparing the londonberry ping thing to him implying that maura and her dad are sleeping together is not even in the same ballpark or same planet. There are two londonderry's and it is believed maura went up 1-91 which would have her in the area of londonderry vermont at the time she checked her phone messages. It was not some far-fetched just throw it out there theory I came up with.