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Orko Kringer wrote:

for the official record
here are the only two posts I have had words with Maribeth Conway about and you all judge for yourself if I am trying to say I am working for or representing James Renner.(There is no other conversation (other than my list of questions to her) so we no longer have to go by my word versus James word. here is my exact complete correspondence with Maribeth.
First Correspondence.(my first ever contact with maribeth)
Maribeth,
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>>> I would love to talk some Maura Murray with you.
>>>
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>>> I am a professional journalist (of 11 years, albeit all of my time spent
>>> in sports).
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>>> But I have been captivated by this case and have spent mucho time
>>> gathering information and I have personally visited several locations of
>>> interest to this case.
>>>
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>>> I want to do some note comparing and get your theories about the case.
>>>
>>> If interested, we can set-up a phone interview, or I can prepare questions
>>> vie email and shoot them your way and give you the chance to answer.
>>>
>>> Lastly, just wanted to say that you did an excellent job with your series
>>> of articles you did on the case. I used those articles as my principle
>>> guide when i visited the amherst and New Hampshire areas and found your
>>> information to be spot on.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your time and I hope to hear back from you.
>>>
>>> Clint Harting
Second Correspondence (my disclosure to Maribeth)
Maribeth,
That would be perfect.
I will send you over some questions later this evening and take your time with your responses.
Also let me know if you want to keep completely off the record and I will honor that request and just utilize the info you give me for my own knowledge.
I have contributed (photos) to the guy that is writing a book about the case (James Renner) but if you don't agree with his methods, then I give you my word that I won't release anything you say to him in any form.
I am also a regular contributor on websleuths and (franconia) topix about the case.
Thanks, Clint

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JWB wrote:

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JR is saying he spoke with Marybeth and you said you were working with JR- you mentioned yourself that you had no clout and wondered how you were going to proceed.
Ask Marybeth to set it straight if you think JR is Lying. maybe she will post.

Snowy wrote:

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in case you previously missed this, here's a goat's reply to you. i think you need to be more convincing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Bink Winky wrote:

<quoted text>a spitter!! Not bad!

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Orko Kringer wrote:

Wow that is priceless.
I get skewed on here because I had the nerve to come to the conclusion that a ping could of bounced off a cell phone tower *That would've been relevant to maura's location* Yet, James can imply *with no lick of evidence whatsoever* on his official blog nonetheless, that fred and maura are bumping uglies in bed and all you get is crickets from the masses here because heck its James Renner, it must be true.

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Snowy wrote:

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JR wasn't the first to consider that possibility; several have questioned the appropriateness of her father's sharing a motel room with his daughter. and, so, crickets. i've linked to possible reasons for young women (and some men) to suffer from eating disorders. nothing can be proven, only discussed.
it's your choice about how much time and energy you intend to put forth to research MM's disappearance. i feel certain other would-be writers have taken a look; only JR, so far, has committed to a book.
there certainly was some hysteria around your suggestion that her location may have been in the vicinity of Londonderry, VT. it's difficult to avoid taking the criticism personally, but i hope you consider the nature of these conversations. off the wall!!!
carry on. just carry on.

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Snowy wrote:

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but you have failed to directly comment on the link between bulimia and PTSD by rape, molestation or a number of variables around these issues.
Maura was, in fact, acting out. why?
it's fine to be an advocate; it's more logical to be a realist.
divorced and single fathers may raise daughters, and uncles also have close relationships with their nieces. if those relationships are healthy and are protected by boundaries, then fine. but often, a symptom of dysfunction is an eating disorder.
whether or not this connection can be made in Maura's case is at issue; whether her life was impacted by these possibilities cannot be definitively determined here. either way, yes or no, we cannot draw that conclusion without knowledge of more intimate, personal information.
people raised in family units with strong boundaries, or belonging to a different generation, may regard the practice of camping / sleeping and travel / sleeping with an opposite sex parent or friend to be off-putting or "weird".
similarly, these days, we now add some heightened suspicion surrounding same sex adults and children in those circumstances.
these are valid questions to ask, and points of mention, and i presume they would be considered and addressed by any professional in the course of an investigation of a missing person.

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Orko Kringer wrote:

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My interpretation of the londonderry fiasco was relayed on a message board. James implication about fred and maura came on his blog. Many are going to naturally assume that he has inside info and that he is not just throwing a willy nilly theory out there.
By the way, it was James that coined the term "Londonderry Ping" when in fact it turns out it wasn't a ping at all that the affadavit was referring to.... So once again, he gets a free pass, because he said it, so it must be gospel.

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Simply Sarcasm wrote:

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No, it was not James that 'coined the term 'Londonderry Ping.'
That was an oft-used term here on Topix/Advocator's forum (and, perhaps, even before.)
If I had to attribute the naming rights to a particular individual, I'd guess Dawn, as she was quite knowledgeable about the whole thing.

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Orko Kringer wrote:

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My interpretation of the londonderry fiasco was relayed on a message board. James implication about fred and maura came on his blog. Many are going to naturally assume that he has inside info and that he is not just throwing a willy nilly theory out there.
By the way, it was James that coined the term "Londonderry Ping" when in fact it turns out it wasn't a ping at all that the affadavit was referring to.... So once again, he gets a free pass, because he said it, so it must be gospel.

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hannah_b wrote:

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Orko, the Londonderry thing wasn´t a fiasco, rather to the contrary. We finally managed to do what many posters over several years have not been able to. We could finally establish it was not a ping thing at all, it was somebody else making a call to MM cell phone and LE wanted to find that persons identity out. We wouldn´t have been able to if you hadn´t brought it up the eway you did.

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hannah_b wrote:

Renner certainly wasn´t the first to come up with an incest theory. I remeber exchanging private messages with Mason about how Maura fitted every description of an incest victim. Mason had reportedly himself been the victim of sexual child abuse, he recognized certain things about Maura that made him think she had similar experiences, and I believe that was the basis for his hatred for FM.

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Orko Kringer wrote:

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Thanks I think.
But the only thing I belive that was established is that I should have not called it a fact that maura checked her phone messages and that was what the affadavit led to the investigators knowing.
We really still don't know the true result or true importance of the affadavit. I am skeptical. If it was something of value, we should know a name of a person that called her. If it was something top secret, the affadavit would have never been released IMO.
I did research on it and thought I solved the discrepancy that even James was pondering on his blog and so I was comfortable with calling my inoformation factual at that point. But I misunderstood the affadavit, so any research I did was moot.

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Snowy wrote:

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yes, exactly. i didn't want to be as specific in my post as you are here, but, indeed, Mason, a well seasoned defense attorney, seemed alerted to signs that Maura may have suffered from some manner of sexual abuse which Mason recognized from his own personal experiences.