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sophie bean

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SnowyB wrote:
Ridiculous - don't go away any time soon. i need the lyrics and the jokes interspersed between the building excitement that should culminate in MM's reappearance....RIGHT HERE. online. tie up your britches and get ready.
the brain trust is hashin it out. that Rooney SOB is in for another beating. i forgot if he's dead or imprisoned for life, but this crew has their lasers set to tag him.
now, all this stupid shit....oops, i mean brilliant Q&A sessions could take place in an email chain....the old fashioned way....but we've got exhibitionists here at the ladies' wednesday nite book club meeting.
again, hang around. wait for the climax. they will find her before Renner.
oo00oo oo00oo oo00oo oo00oo oo00oo oo00oo oo00oo oo00oo
private eyes....
please be so good as to remind me of why, other than it's me posting, you are so freaking swift to dismiss both rooney and apparently Keyes. Doubtless if it was proved that Keyes was living or working in the area in Feb 2004, you'd find some way to ignore the possibility of his involvement in Maura's disappearance. Wouldn't you? An honest answer would be nice.

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Simply Caustic wrote:
Amy, I have always liked posting alongside you...and enjoy hearing your point of view.
So please know that it is with the utmost respect that I question why you would think Beagle stopped posting due to the jackassery of this thread.
I'd humbly suggest that he was treated (by the vast majority of posters here), relatively kindly, given some of his shenanigans.
Definitely Snowy and Wowzer. Perhaps more.
Although I did, and still do, actually, take issue with his Mr112 persona and the videos he made, I try to reserve judgment.
I'm confused as to why you would think he stopped posting due to....well, all of us.
Have you not noticed the way he has been attacked when he posts here? And even when he isn't posting at all? Why WOULD he want to post here would be the better question, IMHO.

Funny, I didn't mention any names in my post, but certain people took it personally. If the shoe fits, I guess... But I was talking about the people who attack Beagle on this thread, who have done so on these threads long before he ever posted those videos.

I don't know why he stopped posting. As I said, it was a guess on my part. A more likely alternative than him being in jail, since I know that he is not.

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WTH-the-original wrote:
I have to say I don't understand some of the animosity towards Amy. I have seen her ask some intelligent questions and I don't think she has actually come to an opinion on this case, nor stated one that I know of. From what I have read I think she is still open minded and trying to understand the case with no preconceived notions. Like I said, I really don't understand what sparked the animosity. Just my thoughts.
Bill
Thanks, Bill. I understand why a few are angry with me. They're entitled to their opinions, but that doesn't mean I feel the need to engage them and argue about it either. I stand by what I said. I have also learned not to care what a bunch of anonymous people on the web think of me, good or bad. Certainly no hurt feelings on my part. Some of it is quite humorous actually.
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amy researches wrote:
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Have you not noticed the way he has been attacked when he posts here? And even when he isn't posting at all? Why WOULD he want to post here would be the better question, IMHO.
Funny, I didn't mention any names in my post, but certain people took it personally. If the shoe fits, I guess... But I was talking about the people who attack Beagle on this thread, who have done so on these threads long before he ever posted those videos.
I don't know why he stopped posting. As I said, it was a guess on my part. A more likely alternative than him being in jail, since I know that he is not.
I disagree. I think he was cut much more slack than deserved.
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amy researches wrote:
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Thanks, Bill. I understand why a few are angry with me. They're entitled to their opinions, but that doesn't mean I feel the need to engage them and argue about it either. I stand by what I said. I have also learned not to care what a bunch of anonymous people on the web think of me, good or bad. Certainly no hurt feelings on my part. Some of it is quite humorous actually.
It stems from the JWB thing ...although I've no dog in that fight, I DO think he enjoys polarizing an already warring group.

I have no animosity towards Amy whatsoever, and hope that my post was not perceived as a dig at her.
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mcsmom wrote:
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I have been to several houses in the area, one in particular, the kitchen level is on the second floor. Not much of a vantage point through the pine trees. Especially from the kitchen sink window. Could hear road noise and conversation on 112 very well though. Weren't there footprints behind this house also?
A witness within eyesight of the scene pointed out an area as to where they had seen footprints the following day after Maura diasappeared. mcsmom I was actually referring to a personal conversation that I and several othersI had with a neighbor.

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Simply Caustic wrote:
Amy, I have always liked posting alongside you...and enjoy hearing your point of view.
So please know that it is with the utmost respect that I question why you would think Beagle stopped posting due to the jackassery of this thread.
I'd humbly suggest that he was treated (by the vast majority of posters here), relatively kindly, given some of his shenanigans.
Definitely Snowy and Wowzer. Perhaps more.
Although I did, and still do, actually, take issue with his Mr112 persona and the videos he made, I try to reserve judgment.
I'm confused as to why you would think he stopped posting due to....well, all of us.
indeed, genuinely kind regard was extended toward Beagle, some of which continues today. Dawn and i openly stated our concerns and offered compassion to Beagle during those times when he seemed to reach out in his distress about the various circumstances that he associated with his involvement in the circumstances surrounding the missing MM. he rejected Dawn's repeated offers of support and advocacy, as well as mine.

i happened to disagree with what i termed Beagle's "bizarre" egg donation theory to which he seemed to take offense.

yes, Advocator and Wowzer have also appreciated Beagle's value in his participating in these discussions. they are not jackasses, nor do i consider myself a jackass, if that was intended.

while disturbing and graphic, perhaps his journey as Dirtbag was a reaction to the endless accusations and abuse by a collection of particularly vicious posters some time ago.

perhaps his legendary muliti-monikered posts, which caused some confusion and misunderstandings, and have set a precedent for others to follow, were also motivated by the cruelty of that same group of posters.

Beagle, however, an evidently intelligent adult, doesn't need another apologist, spokesperson or advocate...especially to insult others in his name.
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hannah_b wrote:
Maybe Sasquatch was hiding among the trees and the Saturn hit him, which made him very angry.
Please, anything, anything but the tow hitch theory!
I guess she was teasing him with some Jack Link's Beef Jerky and things go out of hand fast.

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hannah_b wrote:
Maybe Sasquatch was hiding among the trees and the Saturn hit him, which made him very angry.
Please, anything, anything but the tow hitch theory!
I'm just waiting to find out whether Bill is the Maura lookalike.

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amy researches wrote:
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I'm just waiting to find out whether Bill is the Maura lookalike.
It would break this case wide open...

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Does pepper spray or mace have a color?

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Does pepper spray or mace have a color?
In my experience, usually yes. Often there is dye added to make it easier to identify the person it is used on. If I remember correctly, often the dye may have an ultraviolet marker as well.

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Keepthesearchalive wrote:
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I have absolutely respected reading your opinions. I'm not selling anything either. I know I have said in the past I was convinced she was abducted by a predator. I have kept following and thinking. Reading JR's blog.
I just feel ever so strongly about her leaving that scene in another vehicle.
But instead of a predator it just might have been the person she was going to meet. And at that moment...when she got in the car.... it was hasta luego...leave my troubles behind me time.
This is a possible scenario, hell of a lot more likely than her just walking into the woods IMO. There's actually some indications that this could've been what happened as opposed to the lost in the woods theory where there's absolutely none. As far as the lost in the woods theory goes to me there's no indication that she was at all suicidal or had any history of depression There's also no indication that she was a complete moron either, that's the only other way she would've ended up in the woods. either she was suicidal or she was a complete moron. When there's 2.5' of snow on the ground you don't just run into the woods real quick to think, that's just silly to even say. I can't believe she would be stupid enough to hide in the woods just because of how easily LE could then find her, all they would have to do is follow her giant tail.
So I think it's much more likely she ran off to start a new life than entering the woods after the crash. Logically it just makes much more sense.. I am still yet to see anyone offer up anything resembling a logical reason for why she would've entered the woods. Saying i think she ran into the woods to hide for a bit and think is not a logical reason. You don't just run into the woods real quiuck thru that much snow, it's not exactly possible.
I do believe it's much more likely that she went off and starrted a new life but again nobody has rever offered up anything as to a motive for why she would take such an extreme course of action qnd put her family through such hell. Why would she do this?
there is some circumstantal evidence that she knew who she got in the woth after the crash and was either travelling tandem or was planning on meeting someone up there.
But even if she was plannin on meeting someone that doesn't mean she was plannin on starting a new life, that could likely mean the exact opposit really. Someone is much more likely to be killed by someone she knew than a stranger, that is just a fact that can't be denied. If she was meeting someone or travelling with someone that person could very well be the person who killed her. Maybe they hit vasi drivin her car, maybe she was pregnant. Girls have been killed many times for a lot less than that.
Who was gonna pay for this condo she was tryin to book? She sure wasnt with the 280 she withdrew. Why did she only take the bottle of kahlua? What was she gonna mix it with?? Why has this person never come forward?
My biggest argument against her running away or someone she knew killing her in my mind is the fact that LE never was able to catch this person or find her. The FBI did the background investigation in mass, which was arguably the more important side of the investigation at that point. I find it very hard to believe that if it was someone she knew who killed her, or even helped her get away to a new life, I find it hard to believe that LE didn't figure that out. That is why most mirders get solved, bc the majority of them (90%+) are done by someone they know, which makes it way easier to solve.
The longer this case goes on the more and more likely it becomes that she was in fact murdered and she was killed by a stranger.
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just thinking that Beagle pushed the limits and ended up getting more negative attention than perhaps even he had hoped for.
big time.
at some level, his lashing out can be justified; at another, he is not a wounded puppy.
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i am working on building my vocab. i have researched "jackass" this morning.

jackass

a jacket which only reaches down to your waist, leaving your ass exposed.

"hey, it's like minus 40 out tonight!! didn't you freeze on your way over here with that jackass on??"

Jackassedness
where one's own stupidity/behavior is the reason for the disappointing situation they find themselves in.
Q: Why did you lie about taking a cookie from the cookie jar?
A: I believe it was my own jackassedness.

Due to your jackassedness, the entire class will not be going on the field trip.

Due to your jackassedness, I find you in contempt of court and sentence you to six months of jail.

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And then there are some that don't get the fact that she DID run away. She was int he process of running away when she had the accident. And to that ends she lied to faculty and friends to create a story that gave her at least several days to not be bothered by anyone. Was that time to get permanently lost, or to commit suicide with no worries that she would be caught? I don't know but it certainly gave her a large window of opportunity to do whatever she had planned. The car crash, absolutely screwed those plans up. May have pushed an already fragile person over the edge. Was she rational, I don't know, is it rational to run from a simple car accident in winter, in an area like that? Stupid? No, she wasn't stupid. Some might even call her cagey. Was she in a fragile state, I certainly believe she was.

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She wasn't going to commit suicide. That makes no sense.

Running away or being abducted seems much more likely.
Snowy

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there are no facts to prove or disprove the suicide option; hence, a useless standoff of many years' duration.
one of the cowboys is a professional with knowledge of S&R...i'd place my bet on that side of the table.
a body and location will provide confirming evidence.

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suicide makes no sense. Why would she take all the stuff she had in her car?

This is not the scenario I see.

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Tang Zoi wrote:
suicide makes no sense. Why would she take all the stuff she had in her car?
This is not the scenario I see.
Is it possible that after the car accident, she saw her entire life swirling around the drain? At that time she may have made a decision to end her life. Or hours/days down the road realizes what a mistake she may have made? Again, people who discount any possibility of suicide are not paying attention to what was occurring in this young ladies life. Arrests, alcohol problems, possible loss of her ability to be a nurse, problems with the "fiance", trying to explain all the things going on to her family, friends, now another car crash while she is trying to figure out what she is going to do with the wreck that her young life has become? While everyone she knows professionally and in school, thinks she is at a families funeral. Yep, no stressors there.

Bill

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