Maura Murray

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SnowyB wrote:

"The Case" is quite adequately handled by the appropriate, official authorities, not sleuther hacks.
that you earnestly believe you are "working the case" is, as Bill suggests, is delusional, sad, or both. therein lies the entertainment factor.

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Jenkins wrote:

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Actually she didn't tell her friends there was a death in the family, she didn't tell her friends anything.
She emailed her professors and told them there was a death in the family. That is what you do when you're in a tough major and you want an excused absence, that's not all that uncommon actually.
So no, I would not call that 'running away' at all, I would call that wanting a few days off from school. Most NORMAL people would not classify that as running away, in fact that's rather silly to say.
If she was running away or had plans to commit suicide why email her professors at all?? She was out of there, why get herself an excused absence?
If this girl was sooo distraught that she was on the verge of suicide, or even running away & starting a new life I don't see her talking the time to make sure that her absences would be excused? Those two things don't add up. Remember that she was going to umass, a school with 30,000 other students. Nobody would be looking for her because she missed a few days if classes. She wasn't in high school where they'll call your parents if you miss a few days.
If her plan was running away or heading up NH to commit suicide then sending that email to professors makes no sense at all. If she was leaving school forever, never to return, then that email makes no sense at all really. No teachers or anyone else like that would be lookin for her, that is a fact. She would've known that, anyone who's ever gone to college should know that.
IMO that email to professors shows a direct intent to return to school, I don't see how else it can be interpreted.
So to say that she was 'running away' is clearly an assumption; one that is not based on the few known facts of the case.
If you look at all her actions, the email, what she brought with her on the trip, etc, it looks pretty obvious that she was planning on getting away for a few days and then returning to school. Saying she was runnin away is a rarer silly assumption and clearly not based on any facts.

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JWB wrote:

Bob - I had the same thoughts after i read Bills post. She emailed her prof so actually she was seeking permission to leave and that goes against the runaway definition.
There is a diff in running away and getting away. I believe Maura was getting away with intentions of coming back.

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"Father of missing woman frustrated with search

By KATE McCANN

Associated Press Writer

CONCORD, N.H.- The father of a missing Massachusetts woman said he wants police to start treating the search like a criminal investigation.

Since 21-year-old Maura Murray vanished after a car accident in northern New Hampshire two weeks ago, police have repeatedly said they do not suspect foul play.

Searchers found no signs of struggle at the scene, and it appears Murray was planning a getaway. She lied to professors about a death in the family, and said she would be gone from class for the week and then packed her belongings as if she was moving out."

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Fred Garvin wrote:

SBD is butch the bus driver right?
What about the people directly across the street. The woman said she saw a man smoking a cigarette in the front seat and the man said she was wrong and you could only see a person and a redlight like from a cellphone.
Did her cell actually work then or is there a smoking man?

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WTH-the-original wrote:

That would be a seven day head start that she would have before anyone would have been looking for her

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BobJenkins-OG wrote:

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Once again you've missed the point entirely; you are obviously at least somewhat intelligent, you seem to be rather intelligent actually, so how is it you can miss such a simple point that is so obvious to so many people you consid......

BobJenkins-OG wrote:

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Once again you've missed the point entirely; you are obviously at least somewhat intelligent, you seem to be rather intelligent actually, so how is it you can miss such a simple point that is so obvious to so many people you consider to be much less intelligent than yourself? It seems like you must be missing the point on purpose, although I suppose it's possible you're much less intelligent than your like to make yourself out to be.
You're whole 'give herself a 7 day head start' thing just holds no water. She sent that email to her PROFESSORS, I made it really big so even you could see it. The point being that her professors were never going to be looking for her, maybe weeks later they might ask someone in her class 'what happened to Maura', or something like that, but they certainly would NOT be looking for her in any way shape or form, certainly not after a week of missin classes. She went to UMass, 30,000 students, professors don't go lookin for students at all. Anyone who's ever attended any college should know that, it is on the student to attend classes, they don't attend, they fail. Proffessors don't go looking for students.
You make it out like if Maura didn't attend classes
For a week he teachers wouldbe set off alarm bells, called the state police, maybe even the FBI.
The notion that her professors would've been lookin for her after a week is simply laughable.
The only people that MIGHT be looking for her would be her friends and even that is questionable after a week. I'm sure they would wonder where she was but you can bet your ass that they wouldn't be calling her parents or anythin like that. In college people aren't around for a week or 2 at a time, that is common, people don't really ask too many questions, they certanly NEVER go looking for someone or call their parents or police.
So asbolutey no cover story would be needed for her friends or her proffessors simply because they wouldn't be looking for her.
That email to proffessors shows a clear intention for her to return to school after the week, idk how anyone can interpret that any differently. Since her friends wouldn't really be doing much to look for her, damn sure they wouldn't be calling her parents or the cops on her if she wasn't around for a week, that's NOT gonna happen. And her proffessors wouldn't be looking for her, obviously, then who exactly was she trying to get this week long head start from? Can you not see how what you're saying makes absolutely no sense bill? If she knows nobody is going to be looking for ehr then why would she possibly need a head start? And she only emialed her proffesors, who are the LAST ones that would be looking for her. Bill your argument has no merriiiitt.
The only poeple that might be looking for her after a few days would be her family, her day, her sister; if they didn't hear from her for 3 or 5 days then i'm sure they would get worried. But it's still doubtful they'd call LE or anything; they'd probably try to call her friends, maybe go to campus the next wknd, then call LE if they really couldn't find her.
So bill, who exactly are you proopsing this bi week long head start would be from? Her proffesors? LOL, you can't actually be serious can you?
IDK, but to me it looks pretty obvious form her actions and what she packed for her trip that she was looking to get away for a week and return to school with excused absences. That is what you would call a vacation. A vacation would be a much more accurate description of it than to call it 'running away'..
I'm still yet to see any evidence that she was actually running aay to start a new life or committing suicide. I've seen a lot of people making a lot of ASSUMPTIONS this is what happened, but absolutely zero as far as evidence.

Tang Zoi wrote:

An out of state painting co. was doing work in the Mtn. lakes area when MM went missing. They drove red trucks for their business.

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BobJenkins-OG wrote:

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You're whole 'give herself a 7 day head start' thing just holds no water. She sent that email to her PROFESSORS, I made it really big so even you could see it. The point being that her professors were never going to be looking for her, maybe weeks later they might ask someone in her class 'what happened to Maura', or something like that, but they certainly would NOT be looking for her in any way shape or form, certainly not after a week of missin classes. She went to UMass, 30,000 students, professors don't go lookin for students at all. Anyone who's ever attended any college should know that, it is on the student to attend classes, they don't attend, they fail. Proffessors don't go looking for students.
You make it out like if Maura didn't attend classes
For a week he teachers wouldbe set off alarm bells, called the state police, maybe even the FBI.
The notion that her professors would've been lookin for her after a week is simply laughable.
The only people that MIGHT be looking for her would be her friends and even that is questionable after a week. I'm sure they would wonder where she was but you can bet your ass that they wouldn't be calling her parents or anythin like that. In college people aren't around for a week or 2 at a time, that is common, people don't really ask too many questions, they certanly NEVER go looking for someone or call their parents or police.
So asbolutey no cover story would be needed for her friends or her proffessors simply because they wouldn't be looking for her.
That email to proffessors shows a clear intention for her to return to school after the week, idk how anyone can interpret that any differently. Since her friends wouldn't really be doing much to look for her, damn sure they wouldn't be calling her parents or the cops on her if she wasn't around for a week, that's NOT gonna happen. And her proffessors wouldn't be looking for her, obviously, then who exactly was she trying to get this week long head start from? Can you not see how what you're saying makes absolutely no sense bill? If she knows nobody is going to be looking for ehr then why would she possibly need a head start? And she only emialed her proffesors, who are the LAST ones that would be looking for her. Bill your argument has no merriiiitt.
The only poeple that might be looking for her after a few days would be her family, her day, her sister; if they didn't hear from her for 3 or 5 days then i'm sure they would get worried. But it's still doubtful they'd call LE or anything; they'd probably try to call her friends, maybe go to campus the next wknd, then call LE if they really couldn't find her.
So bill, who exactly are you proopsing this bi week long head start would be from? Her proffesors? LOL, you can't actually be serious can you?
IDK, but to me it looks pretty obvious form her actions and what she packed for her trip that she was looking to get away for a week and return to school with excused absences. That is what you would call a vacation. A vacation would be a much more accurate description of it than to call it 'running away'..
I'm still yet to see any evidence that she was actually running aay to start a new life or committing suicide. I've seen a lot of people making a lot of ASSUMPTIONS this is what happened, but absolutely zero as far as evidence.

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citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>Did you see a list of items retrieved from Mauras vehicle?

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findmaura wrote:

<quoted text>Did Maura email the Employer also?
Who was present when Maura was typing?
We really dont know for sure if it was Mauras fingers typing the "excuse me" emails.

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WTH-the-original wrote:

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How easy this mystery becomes when you get to pick only the information you want to believe.
No wonder these super sleuths have gotten so far.
Bill

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findmaura wrote:

<quoted text>Did you see maura type the emails Bill?Is it a FACT Maura typed them herself?
I believe nothing concerning this case Bill.Theres not enough evidence for me to form beliefs.