Maura Murray

Tang Zoi wrote:

It's so quiet....

Whoosh, whoosh.....

amy researches wrote:

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Postholing convention, perhaps. Any news about DM?

ha! That's really funny amy, postholing convention, that MUST be where everyone is...I can't believe you're not there! ;)

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>Did you see a list of items retrieved from Mauras vehicle?

Yes, i've seen the list of items that was released by either the family or LE, but i believe it was the family. I've also seen the list of items that the family believes she took with her to NH.

If you don't mind me asking, what exactly was the point of this question? For the life of me I can't figure out what possibly the point of you asking that question would be. Of course i've seen the list, hasn't everyone who's followed this case enough to be posting on this forum?

OMG,

I've been shadow banned...!

Tang Zoi wrote:

Citigirl is a relative. That is a fact.

The original Citigirl that posted on the MM and MMM forums was a relative, that is a fact.

But is this citigirl the same person as the citi from the original forums? I really don't know but there is sure a lot of things that make me question whether this is the same person or not.

So to say the original citigirl was a relative; that is a fact.
But to say this person posting under the moniker citigirl is a relative, I wouldn't exactly call that a fact by any means, unless you know something I don't.
Are you sure that this is the same person posting? How do you know that for a fact? Do you know maura's cousin that used to post under the moniker citigirl personally? Have you spoken to her recently and asked her if she is still posting?

IDK, but to me there are some things that she's said, some people she's supported recently; bill, snowy and wowzer in particular, that reallyy make me question whether or not this is the same person and currently I lean towards it NOT being the same person. I really don't know, I'm really not sure, but something tells me it's not the same person. I was on those old forums, I interacted with citigirl quite a lot actually, and her posting style and writing style just seems completely different to me. That doesn't prove anything, my posting style has changed as well, that's why I really am not sure.
But unless you have recently spoken to maura's cousin in person or on the phone and she confirmed that it is her posting, I wouldn't call it a fact that the citigirl posting now is the same person who used to post, who was a relative.

So have you spoken to maura's cousin recently?
How do you know that the citigirl posting right now is in fact a relative?

Since Thursday....wonder who did that..? Wrote some great stuff too. wondered why no one was commenting.. ; )

findmaura wrote:

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Did you see maura type the emails Bill?Is it a FACT Maura typed them herself?
I believe nothing concerning this case Bill.Theres not enough evidence for me to form beliefs.

Cognitive dissonance

Something greater had to happen to MM. Her taking her own life or having free will of her actions that lead to her death will never give you the outcome you desire.

I believe there is more going on with Findmauras cognition than dissonance....but I digress, I'd hate to get banned for such an assessment... ; )

jenkins wrote:

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ha! That's really funny amy, postholing convention, that MUST be where everyone is...I can't believe you're not there! ;)

Nah. Not into winter sports at all. Unless topix is considered a winter sport. lol

Do you still have the list from the old forum of what was in Maura's car? If so can you post it?

suolucidiR wrote:

Since Thursday....wonder who did that..? Wrote some great stuff too. wondered why no one was commenting.. ; )

What are you talking about? Who did what?

Ah, potholing.....Tang you are also Major dodo...thought so... ; )

Postholing....

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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What are you talking about? Who did what?

I got shadow banned by topix....I believe the person that did it got banned as well so, maybe a good thing.. ; )

Happened Thursday I guess. Been posting some of my best stuff, all for naught! Just figured it out a while ago....!

If you're gonna ban someone, at least give them the courtesy of letting them know....Topix.. ; )

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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Cognitive dissonance
Something greater had to happen to MM. Her taking her own life or having free will of her actions that lead to her death will never give you the outcome you desire.

Your comment above is in relation to my suggestion that Maura might not have been the person using her computer to send the "death in the family" emails..We all just assume it was her..Its in no way a fact..IMHO someone may have created these emails to give the apearance of Maura "going away for a week" as a way to explain Mauras sudden departure.
Im really not clear what your comment means.Cognitiv dissonance is correct as I have many conflicting thoughts about Mauras being missing.What is the outcome you believe I desire?I didnt know I desired any particular outcome.

suolucidiR wrote:

Happened Thursday I guess. Been posting some of my best stuff, all for naught! Just figured it out a while ago....!

Well that sucks an egg. Sorry you got banned but if it's who I think it is that squeeled like a girl and got banned too then I guess it wasn't in vain.

suolucidiR wrote:

I believe there is more going on with Findmauras cognition than dissonance....but I digress, I'd hate to get banned for such an assessment... ; )

Do you know me?Didnt think so...

Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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Cognitive dissonance
Something greater had to happen to MM. Her taking her own life or having free will of her actions that lead to her death will never give you the outcome you desire.

I've read posts like this from you in the past, and I just have to point out how ridiculously stupid this notion is. It's not only stupid, it's disgusting to suggest people WANT the outcome to be murder.
Now I can't speak for findmaura, or anyone else, only myself; but do you think that people WANT her to have been abducted and murdered?! You can't be serious can you????
Why would anyone WANT that to be the outcome of this case? Do you realize how completely ridiculous and moronic that sounds?
I wasnt the it to turn out that she ran away and started a new life, said F-it to her old life and is living somewhere happy as a clam not even thinking about her old life. That is the outcome I want, and I would bet a lot of money that's the outcome most, if not all, of the people who are posting here would like to see. That would be the best outcome.
If not that, then I would want suicide or her just getting lost in the woods to be the outcome. I would MUCH rather prefer that she lost her life due to her own choices, to her own free will than to some sick fuck predator who murders women.
Who would possibly WANT that to be the outcome of this case? Do you really have no idea how ridiculous that is to suggest that people actually WANT that to be the outcome?
The absolute LAST thing I want to have happened to her is her being killed by a predator, that's definitely last. Who would actually want that to happen?
Unfortunately we can't always get what we want, we can't pick the outcomes of something that happened. We have to look at the evidence of the case, her background info, and even background info of the area she went missing in order to draw an educated conclusion as to what's the most likely thing to have happened here.
Sadly it looks like the most likely thing that happened is she caught a ride from someone and that person turned out to be the wrong person to take a ride from. Sad but true. If she's not sipping mai--tai's on a beach somewhere I hope she's lost in the woods, but there's just absolutely no evidence to support that theory. There is absolutely nothing indicating that she entered the woods, or ever had any intention of entering any woods upon her arrival to NH, there just isn't. If you know of some, I would love to hear it bc I've been following this case since the beginning and I've seen nothing but assumptions that aren't based on realiity.
In reality this was a generally happy girl, who had some problems but overall they were relatively minor problems compared to many of the things many people face on a day to day basis. She was described as happy, always smiling kind of girl and she had no history of any mental health disorders. Generally people that are happy, that are partying with their friends, that are ordering tickets to Dane Cook shows,, don't go out and kill themselves bc they got arrested for an extremely minor offense, that she was already out of btw, and got in a couple car accidents. Who the hell has ever heard of anyone killing themself over a car accident? Or a misdemeanor charge that she got in NO trouble for, 3 months good behavior and the charges were dropped. To suggest this girl was suicidal is just ridiculous IMO, I see nothing in her life to indicate that she killed herself, unfortunately. I would love to think that she killed herself over some sicko predator picking her up and killing her. Sadly, there's no evidence she killed herself or intended to kill herself.
This notion that people actually WANT the outcome to be murder is simply ridiculous and completely stupid.

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We are looking at the realities of the world, and unfortunately one of those realities is that women get murdered by sick people, it happens every day. Another reality is that the north country has a long history of women who are out on the road by themselves getting murdered. It doesn't happen every day obviously but it has happened more than enough times to make this a very real possibility for te outcome of this case.
Nobody WANTS her to have been murdered, at least that I know of, but ssadly it looks like that is the most likely thing to have happened here. I would much rather think that she voluntarily walked into the woods and offed herself but there's nothing to indicate that's likely. Almost everything indicates that she caught a ride after the scene, which is what the NHSP believes, after that is anyone's guess but sadly it looks like she caught a ride from the wrong person. Just like many of the other unsolved cases in the N country. At this point, 9 years later, I don't see how anyone can honestly think that's not the most likely outcome. yea it's not 100% but with all the searches done, with all the people who've hunted in those woods in the past 9 years, those woods are VERY popular hunting grounds, it's just rreally unlikely she's in the woods up there, extremely unlikely actually. How many people who've been lost in the woods didn't get found in NH in the last 30 years? 2, that's it, 2, and they both were eventually found within ten years, iirc, at least according to Scarinza. So if this goes another year without her being found she will be the ONLY person in the last 30 years who got lost in the woods and was never found. With the benefit of fresh snowfall that made conditions perfect for tracking it just seems so unlikely that she wouldn't have been found initially. Then when you include all the people that have been all over those woods in the past 9 years it just seems almost impossible that she would never have been found; unless someone went to great lengths to hide her body.
To say that people WANT her to have been murder is just so wrong, so ridiculous that it can only be described as sheer stupidity. It seems like you WANT her to have committed suicide for some weird reason, that's the only reason i can think of as to why you might think people want her to have been murdered, which is a sick thing to say in reality.
Whatever the outcome i truly wish it was of her own free will; sadly it doesn't look to be the case here. The fact is nobody wants her to have been murdered, no one; we all want her to be sitting on a beach somewhere laughing at the trouble she left behind and all us silly people on forums talking about her, but sadly it's a very slim chance that is what happened. And honestly, i think it's more likely she ran off to start a new life then her committing suicide or getting lost in the woods. At least there's something that indicates her having a desire to start a new life, that's something. Whereas suicide and lost in the woods has absolutely no evidence, no indications, no nothing except a few weirdos on the internet being REALLY convinced that's what happened and REALLY trying hard to convince others of this.