Maura Murray

oo00oo wrote:

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The report I'm looking at (JR) says 19:35 notified, 19:45 arrived, ambulance showed at 1956.

If you look at the phone records FW called at 19:29

Dispatch records show what I posted.

19:29 called placed 19:46 arrived 17 minutes. And do we know how long Maura had been in her car previous to the FW call?

JWB wrote:

Dispatch records show what I posted.
19:29 called placed 19:46 arrived 17 minutes. And do we know how long Maura had been in her car previous to the FW call?

FW did not call 911 til at least 3 to 5 min after the crash. Because most times people just drive away or are helped by a passerby.

JWB wrote:

Dispatch records show what I posted.
19:29 called placed 19:46 arrived 17 minutes. And do we know how long Maura had been in her car previous to the FW call?

Actually FW called @ 19:27. CS disp.@ 19:29 and arrived at 19:46.

WHY was EMS and FD not disp until 13 minutes after LE. Unknown PI, leakage......

JWB wrote:

Dispatch records show what I posted.
19:29 called placed 19:46 arrived 17 minutes. And do we know how long Maura had been in her car previous to the FW call?

15 min in the car does not fit with eyewitness accounts nor does it fit with the activity done outside the car. And her going poof.

WTH-the-original wrote:

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Yep. This is the fantasy timeline that Jenkins created. I haven't wasted my time with it, because, clearly, others know it's in his brain only. But since you bring it up. You are, of course, correct.
Bill

Thanks Bill. I will not waste anymore time on it. It's not going to find her.

Tang Zoi wrote:

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Actually FW called @ 19:27. CS disp.@ 19:29 and arrived at 19:46.
WHY was EMS and FD not disp until 13 minutes after LE. Unknown PI, leakage......

yea I just caught that myself tang 19:27. The logs are hard to read sometimes.

oo00oo wrote:

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Thanks Bill. I will not waste anymore time on it. It's not going to find her.

No fantasy timeline- Look at the dispatch. I do agree that there was not much time for leisure.

oo00oo wrote:

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15 min in the car does not fit with eyewitness accounts nor does it fit with the activity done outside the car. And her going poof.

There is 19 minutes from the time FW called and the time CS arrived. Are you saying someone saw her leaving her car prior to the 15 min mark?

oo00oo wrote:

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Thanks Bill. I will not waste anymore time on it. It's not going to find her.

i also noted Jenkins' mention of the 15 minute window over the past 48 hours, and then his frequent repetition of that point in building a case for her not being inebriated.
it's how he rolls. fantasy, not facts.

oo00oo wrote:

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Thanks Bill. I will not waste anymore time on it. It's not going to find her.

It certainly isn't my intent to stifle any legitimate investigation. But this was gone over before and FW saw SBD talking to Maura which shortens the time that Maura had to run as well as it was reported that she had difficulty getting out of the car. And then playing around in the trunk area. Again, likely shortening the time she had to get away. I would say probably around 10 minutes. And getting away doesn't require much time at all. 10 minutes and you can get far away. Don't forget, just because the first responders where there in 17 minutes doesn't mean that Maura wasn't heading out very shortly after SBD left.

Christ we had someone we were chasing one time running from the car he crashed into a tree. He originally was walking away from the accident but upon inquiry started running eventually turning, you guessed it, into the woods. The police canine flushed him out about two hours later. And do I really need to state it? Yep, he was drunk.

Bill

I am having dejavu.

Snowy wrote:

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i also noted Jenkins' mention of the 15 minute window over the past 48 hours, and then his frequent repetition of that point in building a case for her not being inebriated.
it's how he rolls. fantasy, not facts.

Nobody knows for certain if she was inebriated or not. You could say the odds based on what we know are high that she had a drink but we don't know how many.

If Maura was not familiar with that part of 112 she sure did a good job getting to that point if she was trashed. Lots of turns and curves to get to her final spot.

It is not 100% fact that it was Maura Murray at the saturn. NOBODY knows that....Nobody. Except the driver of the saturn.

The directions that were found in the saturn would be interesting to see.

JWB wrote:

I am having dejavu.

Sounds like another word for..........windmilling.

Bill

JWB wrote:

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Nobody knows for certain if she was inebriated or not. You could say the odds based on what we know are high that she had a drink but we don't know how many.

I always find it funny when people equate drunk with falling down, throwing up on your shoes drunk. W.C. Fields drunk. Anyone that knows anything should know that is not the legal definition of drunk. Many people who you might think are sober, can easily be legally drunk.

Bill

Tang Zoi wrote:

It is not 100% fact that it was Maura Murray at the saturn. NOBODY knows that....Nobody. Except the driver of the saturn.

Comments like this fly in the face of common sense and Occam. Not to believe that it wasn't Maura who looked like Maura driving Maura's car requires more than an "Oh, I don't think it was Maura" being stated or even "it hasn't been proven". To anyone with common sense, it would be Maura driving Maura's car unless and until some strong evidence is shown to the contrary.

Fantasy is fun, fantasy is exciting and makes for great story-lines for made for TV Lifetime movies, but it has little value in an "investigation".

Bill

WTH-the-original wrote:

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Comments like this fly in the face of common sense and Occam. Not to believe that it wasn't Maura who looked like Maura driving Maura's car requires more than an "Oh, I don't think it was Maura" being stated or even "it hasn't been proven". To anyone with common sense, it would be Maura driving Maura's car unless and until some strong evidence is shown to the contrary.
Fantasy is fun, fantasy is exciting and makes for great story-lines for made for TV Lifetime movies, but it has little value in an "investigation".
Bill

STILL not 100%......No matter what you state Bill.

Tang Zoi wrote:

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STILL not 100%......No matter what you state Bill.

Yaaaawwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

Your correct. But I can live with it being 99.999995% And any theory I come up would reflect that, least I be considered an idiot.

Bill