Maura Murray

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Frostman wrote:

It is truly regrettable that Amy, who has tried to bring this forum together with knowledge, civility and humor, has been constantly badgered over the past few weeks by several posters who appear to have banded together like a pack of wild jackals.
Nobody here enabled or emboldened the actions of others. Sorry Snoozy, you’re just plain wrong.

hannah_b wrote:

Stuff Beagle said:
- unknown woman called hospital to inquire about Vasi the night of the hit and run.
- Saturn wasn´t parked in it´s designated spot at UMass parking lot, but in a more secluded area.
- Maura would have had time to go hit Vasi then return to work.
- Maura wasn´t on her way to FM´s motel the night of the Corolla crash.
- Intense LE interest in the Corolla in the days following MM disappearance.
- Egg harvest scheme involving UMass researcher/s.
- MM never left Amherst.
- Red truck with NH plates was seen at UMass Amherst.(did Beagle say this? Tang did, but didn´t B say it too?)
- Beagle posted the pic of his Bretton Woods ticket from the time of MM disappearance to show he was in the area at the time.
- Per Tang Beagle witnessed something relevant to the case, but how would this be compatible with MM never leaving Amherst?

hannah_b wrote:

Stuff Beagle said:
- unknown woman called hospital to inquire about Vasi the night of the hit and run.
- Saturn wasn´t parked in it´s designated spot at UMass parking lot, but in a more secluded area.
- Maura would have had time to go hit Vasi then return to work.
- Maura wasn´t on her way to FM´s motel the night of the Corolla crash.
- Intense LE interest in the Corolla in the days following MM disappearance.
- Egg harvest scheme involving UMass researcher/s.
- MM never left Amherst.
- Red truck with NH plates was seen at UMass Amherst.(did Beagle say this? Tang did, but didn´t B say it too?)
- Beagle posted the pic of his Bretton Woods ticket from the time of MM disappearance to show he was in the area at the time.
- Per Tang Beagle witnessed something relevant to the case, but how would this be compatible with MM never leaving Amherst?

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Snowy wrote:

Bill - this is on the fly
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i've thoroughly documented my thoughts in recent days.
Amy, as i've previously said to her, is inclined to play both sides against the middle. that observation and experience does not constitute dislike.
that you need to reinforce your belief that she is remarkably intelligent is of little consequence.
the disruption and threatening behavior on and offline is owned by JWB.
you, Amy or others may have known of a more effective management tool for consistently increasing escalations against Wowzer and me; did you intervene?
as professionals, might you or Amy have considered proactively contacting his wife? does JWB suffer from mental illness or another dx that predisposes him to angry outbursts and threatening behaviors?
would you feel differeny if Wowzer was your wife?
first blood suggests retaliation.
Ridiculous may wish to contribute his own thoughts and ideas.
in the end, i now feel certain Amy enabled the continued behaviors.
importantly, several posters were not free to contribute their thoughts and opinions without being threatened.
JWB has been running roughshod over posters, especially women, for some time.

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mcsmom wrote:

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For Frosty per detective dirtbag file 3.54
LE intense interest in the Carolla was on Februaury 9, 2004.

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Snowy wrote:

Amy is not a victim. she has been an active participant.
she has expressed extreme fear of JWB to more than one person, but her choice was to tolerate behaviors that are unacceptible to others....not topix unacceptible...mainstream unacceptibke.
i again, JWBowns his behavior.
like Beagle, the focus of attention is on him. he is not sorry; he is not apologetic.
he has made people weary by his acting out and dysfunction.

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WTH-the-original wrote:

Like I have said, I have lost interest in much of what goes on here. I reserve the right to comment whenever I see stupidity of monumental proportions but that usual entails things that jenkins has written over and over and over. Most realize he is a buffoon so there is really no need to respond to him.
If I see something that I think my input will be useful on, I'll be happy to contribute. Otherwise, I am working on learning more about Android development and really enjoying spending time doing that. My youngest has quite a bit of knowledge in that area and is really teaching me lots, getting me up to speed. Spending this extra time with my kid is a bonus. It is amazing what your kids pick up while they are growing up.
I will also say that I like ridiculous, snowy, and wowzer as well as amy. I know why ridiculous did what he did but I wish he hadn't. Only because I think it is bad policy and even worse precedence. And for once Booby has it correct. It is not illegal to "out" anyone, but in my mind it is very bad form and policy. We as a group no longer have the high moral ground. Still like you guys but I think there were better ways to handle that. JWB was/is a colossal douchbxx often enough, but we (the collective we) drew first blood and I think that was unfortunate. I also really don't get the hatred of amy. I find her remarkably bright as I do you others, and really don't understand the dislike of her. I have also engaged JWB when he acted civil.
Anyways just my thoughts on the subject.
Bill

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WTH-the-original wrote:

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I understand your take on this. I really don't have either the time or the energy to keep pursuing this. I have already stated that I think that JWB has been a colossal douchebxx on more than one occasion. I am far less convinced that Amy or even me has anything to do with that because we corresponded with him, nor did I see anything that made me think that Amy was instigating things. Now, I will admit that some of that I skimmed over (actually I have skimmed over a lot since last thanksgiving). I attribute anything that JWB did to JWB no one else.
I am unsure how I would have contacted JWB or his wife as I know neither. I think I have stated more than once that I thought what he was doing was wrong, but at no time was I going to out anyone. Like I said I know/knew who shack was, would not out her or anyone else. And wowzer is not my wife. If the information was passed to wowzer she could pass it to the police and maybe something could have been done. Just a bully like him knowing that his identity was known, especially to the police, would likely have been enough. I don't know, not my area of expertise but I might have started with that. I rarely offer opinions on areas that I don't know or believe I know the correct answer. I also don't try to make decisions or offer advice on only what might be partial information. I hope you or wowzer don't take this personally because that is not the intent but it is how I operate.
I am sorry but I really have no interest in any of this. It seems to be moot at this point anyway with JWB's information in the public domain. I have said pretty much all I intend to say on this subject. Life is too short to waste it on this.
Bill

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amy researches wrote:

I do hope that her info will not be put out there because there is no telling what anyone might do with that info. No one should have to fear for their safety.

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Wowzer the real one wrote:

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Bill with all due respect I don't know of anyone that said they dislike or hate Amy.
Am I disappointed in her....yes. Do I think she's playing one against the other...yes.
But I don't hate her nor do I dislike her.
I just dislike two faced people, always have and always will.

Tang Zoi wrote:

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You will be missed..........

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Snowy wrote:

so, let's get real.
which of you circulated an email about me to the group of new members that came with Amy?
you, Tang?
i understand it was intended to be inflammatory, that the info contained is incorrect, and the source is not credible.
i understand JWB has been seeking to verify my identity for some time, and in every manner. this info was confirmed to me direcy by Amy.
JWB's posts, and findmaura's posts are evidence of this stalking behavior.
he added Wowzer to his short list.
Bill, you were made aware of this.
Amy, Wowzer correctly summarized how you feared JWB, and yet you continue to return to topix for almost a year.
i have reported JWB's posts to topix numerous times.
another time, i reported my concerns to the appropriate police dept.
JWB and fondmaura continue to act on misinformation...with malice intended toward me.
i am sorry they feel such hatred for a stranger.
i guess they are not all about Maura.

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Maruchan wrote:

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IT WAS PUT OUT THERE, Both I and Ridiculous and many others know it was.
You're right, nobody should have to fear for their safety, but Wowzer has had to for a long time now from JWB, and for you to continue to deny this and state something as ludicrous as you just did is just appalling.
I have no time now to address anything else here, but Snowy, good posts.

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WTH-the-original wrote:

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I understand your take on this. I really don't have either the time or the energy to keep pursuing this. I have already stated that I think that JWB has been a colossal douchebxx on more than one occasion. I am far less convinced that Amy or even me has anything to do with that because we corresponded with him, nor did I see anything that made me think that Amy was instigating things. Now, I will admit that some of that I skimmed over (actually I have skimmed over a lot since last thanksgiving). I attribute anything that JWB did to JWB no one else.
I am unsure how I would have contacted JWB or his wife as I know neither. I think I have stated more than once that I thought what he was doing was wrong, but at no time was I going to out anyone. Like I said I know/knew who shack was, would not out her or anyone else. And wowzer is not my wife. If the information was passed to wowzer she could pass it to the police and maybe something could have been done. Just a bully like him knowing that his identity was known, especially to the police, would likely have been enough. I don't know, not my area of expertise but I might have started with that. I rarely offer opinions on areas that I don't know or believe I know the correct answer. I also don't try to make decisions or offer advice on only what might be partial information. I hope you or wowzer don't take this personally because that is not the intent but it is how I operate.
I am sorry but I really have no interest in any of this. It seems to be moot at this point anyway with JWB's information in the public domain. I have said pretty much all I intend to say on this subject. Life is too short to waste it on this.
Bill

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hannah_b wrote:

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Thanks for the correction. I find this very interesting if true. I would love to know what caused this interest in the Corolla.