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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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FRMLE - Quick question. Was a cell phone triangulation tried? Is this what is referred to many (and misunderstood) as the londenberry ping?
How often are cell phone triangulation used and successful?

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WTH-the-original wrote:

I assume you are asking to see if they know where she was during the ping?
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BillNH wrote:

Damn guys. citigirl tweaked me, I tweaked her back...could have ended there. lol

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FrmLE wrote:

I can't comment specifically on the cell triangulation question.
However I do think I have 'read' that there was never any signal from her phone since well before the time of the accident.

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BillNH wrote:

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I called myself lazy, if anyone, I disrespected myself. Once again you are either not reading, or not comprehending the things that are posted here. Picking apart insignificant details or words is incredibly disrespectful to the people that are trying to make sense of all this. Glass houses, stones...you know the story, try comprehending it.

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FrmLE wrote:

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Regardless of whether the car was blocking the road or not, it was going to be towed from the scene as a result of the accident. That's how it works.
I seriously doubt that Maura would have known what LE policy is regarding towing cars etc, however it is obvious to me that she could not drive the car from the scene and she knew the police were going to be coming sooner or later, probably sooner.
I think she decided to leave the car so as not to encounter the Police because she either had been drinking and had alcohol in the car. She may or may not have had a plan about what to do beyond leaving the car, however she gathered her things up and left the car before the cops came.
It is important to understand that people do not always make smart decisions, they do not always have a plan about what to do let alone a good plan about what to do.
Sometimes,(actually often times) people react on instinct without thinking, they make bad choices and do stupid things.
I think I said this before but I had a young man RUN FROM ME AND JUMP OFF A BRIDGE!!!! to avoid a minor alcohol charge. He broke both legs and several other bones. He also turned a violation level offense that carried a $150 fine into a Class A Misdemeanor level Resisting Arrest charge.
Now, if you are looking back trying to make sense of that mans actions, based on your common sense at the time you are typing on some blog, can you really say that made sense?
Of course not, most of you would sit here and say "he never would have done that, it makes no sense!" Just like you try to apply current common sense to the things that Maura would or wouldn't have done back then.
A piece of advice I learned from many years Investigating Crimes, do not apply your common sense to the actions of any other person, especially a person in trouble, using alcohol or drugs, or in emotional or mental distress.
I think Maura was at least 3 of those things, I think she was in trouble, she was using alcohol, and she was in emotional distress.
Therefore I do not think that trying to speculate on her actions using the 'common sense' principal will give you good results.

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citigirl wrote:

But I have stated that there is no proof she was drinking and its assumtion. Nobody saw her to say she was intoxicated. I dont know either way whether or not she was drinking.

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citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>I have not speculated on her actions. I wasnt there so I have no idea what happened that night except she had an accident and is missing. But I have stated that there is no proof she was drinking and its assumtion. Nobody saw her to say she was intoxicated. I dont know either way whether or not she was drinking.

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Lighthouse 101 wrote:

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I think the "ping" thing is a misguided term. Pings are for sonar. I don't think cell waves bounce back.

WTH-the-original wrote:

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Ping is a term that started with computer networks. A "ping", a character, would be sent out to a device. If successful, the device would "pong" back the character. That would be proof that the device was connected to the network. Since phones entered the digital age, the phones act very much like a computer on a network. For the phone and the phone system to know it is hooked to the network by a tower, and which tower and that everything is connected. A phone will ping a tower to let the network know what tower it is using and that it is connected to the network. This happens without you knowing about it. That is how phones are able to switch from tower to tower while traveling.
This is slightly simplified, but not by much. Hope this helps.
Bill

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I can't comment specifically on the cell triangulation question.
However I do think I have 'read' that there was never any signal from her phone since well before the time of the accident.

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citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>Sorry BillNH. I usally use a magnifying glass to read. Guess I should probably go see an eye doctor.

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Maruchan wrote:

You can also magnify or shrink your screen image either by holding down the control key (CTRL) on your keyboard and use the scroll wheel on your mouse to enlarge or shrink the image, or use (CTRL) plus the plus/minus sign on your keyboard to do the same.

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mcsmom wrote:

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Citigirl is family and like anyone else would, she responds accordingly. One might assume that because certain things are said or not said, she may have a perfectly good reason for this. It's a public forum, and you just never know.
Somehow we all jumped on the train of entitlement. I'm just as guilty as anyone else, and I've made my mistakes along the way, but I try to respect their long lost privacy, and sensitive to the humiliation of being scrutinized at every turn.

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Orko Kringer wrote:

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just to keep things in perspective.
Maura is the child of the child of the cousin of Citigirl as what has been reported in the newspaper.
So that is what I mean by saying citigirl is not exactly immediate family.
I know I don't know a single cousin's child's child that I have.

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Maruchan wrote:

You can also magnify or shrink your screen image either by holding down the control key (CTRL) on your keyboard and use the scroll wheel on your mouse to enlarge or shrink the image, or use (CTRL) plus the plus/minus sign on your keyboard to do the same.

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Orko Kringer wrote:

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just to keep things in perspective.
Maura is the child of the child of the cousin of Citigirl as what has been reported in the newspaper.
So that is what I mean by saying citigirl is not exactly immediate family.
I know I don't know a single cousin's child's child that I have.