Maura Murray

You are for horses.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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No need to get any decoys Roz. Just take a ride in the summer time on 112, 116 and all the other roads including the dirt ones and you'll see all kinds of young women and men riding bikes.
Gasp! I even talked to a lone women last year at a secluded pond who was taking a rest after biking up a mountain miles from the nearest house.
Keep your eyes open if you're driving because they really are a PIA to cars and trucks on these hilly and curvy roads.
It's so obvious that you've never been here Roz and yet you condemn the area. You know so little yet pretend to know everything.

I love Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine. Never cared much for MA an NJ..... especially NJ. Have been to VT, NH and Maine several times. Long stays in Maine. The mountains......I love the mountains. In my opinion, they should not be turned into the cemeteries of America.

Scooby Doodles wrote:

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I just kept the important part of what you wrote.

Good for you Scooby Doodles! Don't want too much sloppin' round in the old noodle. I notice on this forum some discussion regarding what appears to be differentiation between PIs and "real" PIs. Other than licensing, what makes one different from the other? They're all real....correct? Some may have licensing and possibly more experience, but it would seem they're all real people (as opposed to unreal?)... Maybe they were making reference to someone attempting to impersonate a PI? Apply all this to "psychics..." Wonder if there is licensing for psychics? Maybe there should be...some of them are very good...produce positive results. Even without licensing. Can you imagine that? Maybe the licensing does not the person, the professional make... Who knows. Keep on Doodlin!

Scooby Doodles wrote:

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I'm busy playing pool now.

Solo? Hopefully not pool as in "cess..." How delightful...

Hannah_b wrote:
Yeah Hannah....that's right..........sugar coat it!
Calling the guy (the real or unreal PI) a "moron" ought to get him to respond.... LOL.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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No need to get any decoys Roz. Just take a ride in the summer time on 112, 116 and all the other roads including the dirt ones and you'll see all kinds of young women and men riding bikes.
Gasp! I even talked to a lone women last year at a secluded pond who was taking a rest after biking up a mountain miles from the nearest house.
Keep your eyes open if you're driving because they really are a PIA to cars and trucks on these hilly and curvy roads.
It's so obvious that you've never been here Roz and yet you condemn the area. You know so little yet pretend to know everything.

Wowzer and Bill ~ something is very peculiar about this entire conversation about Maura Murray's disappearance.
either this is a social phenomenon with the subject matter taking wings and attracting all kinds of unusual people...psychics and such; and/or Maura's family encourages the name-and-blame game out of desperation, or to cover for their or her responsibility for this occurrence.
i am puzzled that, at some point, a family member (with their admitted presence on these forums), would not step in to speak directly to current facts and updates, and encourage a rational conversation.
that said, it's almost too late...the circus has been in town for so long.
if her family believes what Rozzie presents, and if she is related to Maura, however distantly, and is being allowed to represent the Murray family here, then we know the endeavor is frustrating, if not useless.
in particular, you, Wowzer, have actually walked the area for years in search of evidence of Maura's presence; and Bill, you have eagerly shared your knowledge and expertise about search and rescue...and yet, this bat-shit-crazy conversation continues.
i trust a handful of us follow to eventually learn of a new, legitimate clue to unlock the mystery and hope, for the sake of her family, that it comes sooner than later.

WTH-the-original wrote:

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I know what you mean. Like me comparing Waterman to Maura when it should be obvious that the likeness was closer to Chris F.
And your correct that NH may be even more beautiful in the winter. My wife and I really hated to leave.
Bill

It's encouraging that the two of you together have been able to determine that Maura may have had more in common with Chris in several domains. Most likely you both were focusing on gender, believing that two out of the three shared the most in common based soley on their male gender. Bill, the next time you visit this area....it might be best to leave the driving to your wife?

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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No need to get any decoys Roz. Just take a ride in the summer time on 112, 116 and all the other roads including the dirt ones and you'll see all kinds of young women and men riding bikes.
Gasp! I even talked to a lone women last year at a secluded pond who was taking a rest after biking up a mountain miles from the nearest house.
Keep your eyes open if you're driving because they really are a PIA to cars and trucks on these hilly and curvy roads.
It's so obvious that you've never been here Roz and yet you condemn the area. You know so little yet pretend to know everything.

I wouldn't live near the A frame for all the tea in China.

mcsmom wrote:

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I wouldn't live near the A frame for all the tea in China.

And were you and I differ. I wouldn't hesitate for a second to live in that area, though I prefer more isolated.

Bill

Snowy wrote:

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Wowzer and Bill ~ something is very peculiar about this entire conversation about Maura Murray's disappearance.
either this is a social phenomenon with the subject matter taking wings and attracting all kinds of unusual people...psychics and such; and/or Maura's family encourages the name-and-blame game out of desperation, or to cover for their or her responsibility for this occurrence.
i am puzzled that, at some point, a family member (with their admitted presence on these forums), would not step in to speak directly to current facts and updates, and encourage a rational conversation.
that said, it's almost too late...the circus has been in town for so long.
if her family believes what Rozzie presents, and if she is related to Maura, however distantly, and is being allowed to represent the Murray family here, then we know the endeavor is frustrating, if not useless.
in particular, you, Wowzer, have actually walked the area for years in search of evidence of Maura's presence; and Bill, you have eagerly shared your knowledge and expertise about search and rescue...and yet, this bat-shit-crazy conversation continues.
i trust a handful of us follow to eventually learn of a new, legitimate clue to unlock the mystery and hope, for the sake of her family, that it comes sooner than later.

It has been getting more and more evident that there are some that haven't really done any homework. I loose more and more interest in this case if for no other reason that the monotony is getting to me. A FAQ could just as easily take care of this except that its likely no one would read it. And bat-shit-crazy is a pretty good description. Personally I don't care if the family ever shows up here, unless they have some new information. It does seem that their lack of interest is telling though. It does seem odd that several of us have been here for years, yet the family can't show up even once to answer some questions. Considering the incredible success that the P.I.s and others in the inner circle have had with this case you would think they might reach out to others but some of the locals they had contact with during the searches might not have exactly inspired confidence, and I am not talking about the search teams and others. Lets not forget that Fred and some of his cohorts probably did a lifetimes worth of damage in some of their actions. Likely not to be forgotten easily. He and some of the others associated with him might not be received warmly, even online.

Bill

rozShoem wrote:

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It's encouraging that the two of you together have been able to determine that Maura may have had more in common with Chris in several domains.

In one domain and that would be Chris to Guy. Possibly suicidal.

Bill

rozShoem wrote:

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I love Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine. Never cared much for MA an NJ..... especially NJ. Have been to VT, NH and Maine several times. Long stays in Maine. The mountains......I love the mountains. In my opinion, they should not be turned into the cemeteries of America.

Right from the start you have stated things about the abducter/serial killer/boogy man that makes one's mind ponder.
You've pretty much gave a description of what he looks like, how he thinks and other personal information that makes one wonder how you could know these things as you have stated them as facts and not theories.
Since it's impossible to know for sure where you really live, who you really are and if you are a man or a women I think that with all of the facts that you've stated in these forums and now the fact that you've traveled thru ME,VT and NH IMO I think the LE should investigate YOU as you seem to be the only one with a wealth of knowledge concerning this person.
If nothing else I'm sure they would appreciate your description of the perpetrater and your other details.
Should be a slam dunk and Roz will have solved the case.
Call now! You may just be that one phone call that the police have been hoping for.

mcsmom wrote:

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I wouldn't live near the A frame for all the tea in China.

I don't remember anyone asking you to live there. Thank goodness!
But why is the A frame so scary? According to shack wasn't it just menstrual blood found in a closet that was used as a possible hamper? Nothing scary about that .

rozShoem wrote:

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Could you elaborate?

WTH-the-original wrote:

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It has been getting more and more evident that there are some that haven't really done any homework. I loose more and more interest in this case if for no other reason that the monotony is getting to me. A FAQ could just as easily take care of this except that its likely no one would read it. And bat-shit-crazy is a pretty good description. Personally I don't care if the family ever shows up here, unless they have some new information. It does seem that their lack of interest is telling though. It does seem odd that several of us have been here for years, yet the family can't show up even once to answer some questions. Considering the incredible success that the P.I.s and others in the inner circle have had with this case you would think they might reach out to others but some of the locals they had contact with during the searches might not have exactly inspired confidence, and I am not talking about the search teams and others. Lets not forget that Fred and some of his cohorts probably did a lifetimes worth of damage in some of their actions. Likely not to be forgotten easily. He and some of the others associated with him might not be received warmly, even online.
Bill

Fred appeared to have chosen a course of action early on, and didn't seem to care about making repairs, even for the sake of his daughter, before creating permanent collateral damage. his advocates have compounded that damage.
"family" is a loosely held term in this online experience, with no one stepping forward, except Helena, to self-identify. i don't know who has actually driven this effort, but no one has able or willing to reign in or manage the resulting chaos. the appearance is, actually, that the accusations and damage are approved and encouraged by Maura's family.

Snowy wrote:

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Wowzer and Bill ~ something is very peculiar about this entire conversation about Maura Murray's disappearance.
either this is a social phenomenon with the subject matter taking wings and attracting all kinds of unusual people...psychics and such; and/or Maura's family encourages the name-and-blame game out of desperation, or to cover for their or her responsibility for this occurrence.
i am puzzled that, at some point, a family member (with their admitted presence on these forums), would not step in to speak directly to current facts and updates, and encourage a rational conversation.
that said, it's almost too late...the circus has been in town for so long.
if her family believes what Rozzie presents, and if she is related to Maura, however distantly, and is being allowed to represent the Murray family here, then we know the endeavor is frustrating, if not useless.
in particular, you, Wowzer, have actually walked the area for years in search of evidence of Maura's presence; and Bill, you have eagerly shared your knowledge and expertise about search and rescue...and yet, this bat-shit-crazy conversation continues.
i trust a handful of us follow to eventually learn of a new, legitimate clue to unlock the mystery and hope, for the sake of her family, that it comes sooner than later.

Snowy I gave up a long time ago trying to actually be of some help as it was apparent from the start that "real" help wasn't wanted.
IMO even now rational talk is criticized while the unrational rantings are welcomed with open arms and silence. Very strange indeed.
A long time ago we were told that the family doesn't look at any of the forums as they are too hurtful. I could never understand that.
Circus indeed.

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Wowzer the real one wrote:

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Snowy I gave up a long time ago trying to actually be of some help as it was apparent from the start that "real" help wasn't wanted.
IMO even now rational talk is criticized while the unrational rantings are welcomed with open arms and silence. Very strange indeed.
A long time ago we were told that the family doesn't look at any of the forums as they are too hurtful. I could never understand that.
Circus indeed.

Only one thing left to do, spam the forum full stop. Lots of it, for a long time. Garbage in, garbage out.

PeripeteShoemCatbriefly style.