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BillNH wrote:

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I have never seen this info before....where did you find it?

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James Renner wrote:

Please ignore the Alden Olson stuff. That's the creep who did the videos taunting Maura's family last year.

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James Renner wrote:

Please ignore the Alden Olson stuff. That's the creep who did the videos taunting Maura's family last year.

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hannah_b wrote:

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Det. Columbo thinks he has important information but isn´t aware of it.

Alden H Olson wrote:

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Not sure of exact timing, but it was all very close together. Of course, damage to the Saturn before it left Amherst doesn't necessarily mean the Saturn struck Vasi, although the body shop guy's personal opinion was that the Saturn had struck someone. There is no reason to believe the police ever actually saw the Saturn's damage, only that they were told about it.

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Alden H Olson wrote:

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DC thinks I know something I don't know that I know?

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Advocate wrote:

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Re this: "Saturn had struck someone" -- from the body shop guy's phrasing, this could mean "struck someone" as in "struck a person's body", or could mean "struck someone's vehicle". Did you get any feel for which scenario he meant?
I wonder if this info is in the NH LE's file even though Smith didn't append it to his official report of the crash on the Rt 112 curve.

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Alden H Olson wrote:

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Actually, most or all of the Saturn's damage was sustained before it left Amherst. The body shop guy saw both the Saturn and the Corolla around the same time, and since both cars were owned by the same person, you’d think that Amherst PD, having been informed of this by the body shop guy, would have notified Haverhill PD. IOW, what understandably seemed like a crash to Smith might have been just a spinout. Smith almost certainly assumed initially that the damage happened at the WB curve, but in fact most of the damage did not happen there, maybe none it. Just not sure why this information was not included in the final version of Smith’s crash report.

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Snowy wrote:

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so, the body shop guy saw both the Saturn and the Corolla in a proximate time span...and they were both registered to the same person.
were both vehicles seen by the body shop guy to provide repair estimates for insurance purposes?
or do you suppose the body shop guy did some work on the Saturn to make it drivable?
MM likely had limited funds; it's hard to believe she could have afforded any out-of-pocket repair of a vehicle.

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Alden H Olson wrote:

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Not sure why he originally saw the cars. He never said he did any work on either of them. After I showed him a photo of the Saturn, he talked about it quite knowledgeably and then went right on seamlessly to the Corolla, even though I hadn't mentioned anything about the Corolla. He knew a lot without my having to say very much at all, no prompting or anything like that. He did almost all the talking. I just asked him how he thought the damage occurred to the car in the picture I showed him. I didn't say anything about the circumstances or Maura or anything else. I just showed him the picture and asked what he thought caused the damage to the car.
Obviously, if Maura drove the Saturn to NH, then she knew about the damage.

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Snowy wrote:

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thanks for bringing forward a first-hand witness account from the BSG, and for attaching your name for verification.
so often the source is "we are told...", without verification of information.
seems pretty important that the BSG was the person who knew exactly how much damage to the Saturn prior to the crash in NH.

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whiston wrote:

Hi all I wonder if the saturn was damaged during the christmas break when Maura was gone to who knows where.Who else had access to it and in which state.Why have it towed to Amherst.Just weird to me