Maura Murray

BillNH wrote:

<quoted text>The police were not told this until almost 24 hours after the accident and started the search within 36 hours. Not bad for a small town in my opinion.

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BillNH wrote:

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And why should they? They went with odds, having no evidence of footprints leaving the scene in any direction.

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Alden H Olson wrote:

<quoted text>Not bad at all.

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FrmLE wrote:

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Think clearly for a second ok, I'll go slow. The night if the accident no one had any idea whatsup have been going on with Maura, right? You understand that correct?
They has no background of any of this, all they knew is some woman crashed her car and left the scene after making significant attempt to avoid the police. And they knew alcohol was involved.
That's it.

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citigirl wrote:

I personally spoke to several first responders. They had stated to me the search only went to the end of BHR on 112 because they did not see any foot prints. I have always believed they were honest.And to this day I believe they were honest. Do you believe they were not honest?

citigirl wrote:

CS had told responders she probably went to visit a friend in the Mountain Lakes. Monahan went to the east and even talked to RO. Why did Woodstock not know.

citigirl wrote:

You state isnt it possible or even most likely. This is a question of yours and not a fact. I could be wrong but this most likely tells me you no nothing about the case.

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Snowy wrote:

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it is abundantly clear to any impartial observer that the authorities would not have known Miss Maura Murray would permanently disappear from the scene of a spinout with moderate damage, a driver-abandoned vehicle, and with evidence of alcohol, and its possible consumption; not to mention out-of-state tags, further suggesting the driver's probably being unfamiliar with the roads. fair assumptions, i'd think.

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Tang Zoi wrote:

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And when they put out the BOL @ noon the next day....It was on towns to the WEST.....
Why not, Woodsock, Lincoln, Franconia as well......?

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Tang Zoi wrote:

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WHAT....Are We in VEGAS now.
What are the odds..?

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FrmLE wrote:

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That makes complete sense, that is what every other cop would do in the same situation. Nothing about what anyone did is out of line with common practice. You continue to want to use hindsight to judge what was done.
While that sure makes you feel justified in slamming everyone who did anything, the reality is that we never have hindsight in real life, do we? Because hindsight is 20/20.

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BillNH wrote:

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The point being they had no real reason to look at all. People leave their cars to avoid police, police tow them. People show up later to claim their car. No reason for an all out search.

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FrmLE wrote:

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No, I agree. I think they were honest. It is important to understand that in cases like this the first responders are not the people who generally search. That is the task of Law Enforcement. So I think they were telling you the truth.
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That makes complete sense, that is what every other cop would do in the same situation. Nothing about what anyone did is out of line with common practice. You continue to want to use hindsight to judge what was done.
While that sure makes you feel justified in slamming everyone who did anything, the reality is that we never have hindsight in real life, do we? We do what our SOP’s tell us to do, we do what experience has taught us is the best course of action. At the time, not days, weeks, months or 9 years later.
Why did Woodstock not know? Because she was on foot and Woodstock was well beyond what a normal person on foot would be able to walk to. Because hindsight is 20/20.
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I am pretty damn sure that multiple times in my posts I state that this is my opinion, based on my experience and my training. Didn’t I say that numerous times?
Let’s forget for a moment what I may or may not know about the case. The opinions I offer I do so using common sense and typical human behavior based on my 23 plus years of experience. Don’t I say that?
Let’s assume I know nothing about this case other than those facts that are commonly known in the public domain. My opinions are based on nothing more than those facts, I don’t think I could be more articulate about where my theories come from, I elaborate on why I think this or that and use examples that most people can read and understand.
I am not sure how much more clearly I can state that simple fact for you. Now you may choose to agree or disagree, it matters to me not.

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Snowy wrote:

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it is abundantly clear to any impartial observer that the authorities would not have known Miss Maura Murray would permanently disappear from the scene of a spinout with moderate damage, a driver-abandoned vehicle, and with evidence of alcohol, and its possible consumption; not to mention out-of-state tags, further suggesting the driver's probably being unfamiliar with the roads. fair assumptions, i'd think.
the authorities are not clairvoyant; only hindsight is 20/20.
but East vs West is a niggling point made by those who were not and are not part of the official investigation.

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BillNH wrote:

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The point being they had no real reason to look at all. People leave their cars to avoid police, police tow them. People show up later to claim their car. No reason for an all out search.

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FrmLE wrote:

...if someone is trying to avoid you finding them, and you are not searching for them in a manner with that in mind, any searching is rather irrelevant, isn't it?

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Tang Zoi wrote:

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I did not say...."AN ALL OUT SEARCH.".....YOU DID..!
SBD could have gone down Rte 112 East to 116 South and back to BHR and down to Rte 112 at the scene again.
WHY go to the west....No officials saw Her on the way to the scene, so IF She had gone to Mtn. Lakes She probably would have arrived there by the time Butch went on His search.
They should have done that loop that nite.....15 to 20 min.@ the most. SBD could have gone that way.
LE did not do all they could have that night.....Feb. 9th 2004.
John

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Tang Zoi wrote:

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LE did not do all they could have that night.....Feb. 9th 2004.
John

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Tang Zoi wrote:

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LE did not do all they could have that night.....Feb. 9th 2004.
John