Maura Murray

Tang Zoi wrote:

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Rephrase....not that is accessible to hit w/ a vacuum.

SnowyB wrote:

thinking back to West Point. first of all, it's FREE. when you've got 3, 4, 5 or 7 kids at home, it's a good plan and a good solution for providing higher education.
Maura, in high school, was a student and athlete.
the expectation and progression, especially since a sibling paved the way, was to follow with daughter #2.
at the finish line, the obligation to fulfill is military service.
Maura, obviously, didn't complete her education at WP.
what was the financial obligation, if any, for leaving after approx 3 semesters or 1 1/2 academic years?
and what was the end date marking her departure from WP, and the start ate of the transfer to UMASS? the transition matters.
did she send a semester in-between living at home? was she a day student during that time? or was the semester completed at WP and she was able to jump right into her studies at UMASS?
apart from the reason(s) for her being dismissed from WP, were her academics suffering during that last semester?
was she managing to rise to a tough major, chem engineering, with associated challenges and competition at WP...or was she falling?
i don't believe any of the information coming from sources that surrounded MM and her family on discussion boards in all of these years. there are all kinds of story lines made up about her life and relationships prior to her disappearance, many of which were spoon-fed and swallowed whole by the public.
alas, without verification from the institutions, and given records are inaccessible, as you know and have found, there will be no answers. and those puzzle pieces are important.
was there a financial obligation for having spent those semesters at WP?
how did expenses overlap during the transfer to UMASS? even if tuition was provided, room and board would need to be met, along with associated loans. it gets complicated.
and then she cracks up a car...and another.
if she was not the victim of stranger abduction on a rural road in NH in a matter of minutes, then the answers to her disappearance lie in the progression of starts and stops in her life beyond high school.
and why did she leave UMASS on that day, anyway?
i don't envy the task you've set out for yourself.

SnowyB wrote:

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oh, there is. it was in a Range Rover, which we previously owned.
i already allowed for differences in vehicle manufacturers.
and it wouldn't matter, anyway.
why would she want to continue to drive a damaged car?

Tang Zoi wrote:

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Sorry.....I checked lots of cars, where is it located in a Range rover.?
Lots of people try to drive away from acc. scenes IF the vehicle is somewhat driveable......AS IN THE CASE OF MAURAS CAR.
It was driveable that evening....just saying.!

Tang Zoi wrote:

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Got it....under the seat. Strange place just because of all the crap that get pushed under the seats of a vehicle.

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SnowyB wrote:

thinking back to West Point. first of all, it's FREE. when you've got 3, 4, 5 or 7 kids at home, it's a good plan and a good solution for providing higher education.
Maura, in high school, was a student and athlete.
the expectation and progression, especially since a sibling paved the way, was to follow with daughter #2.
at the finish line, the obligation to fulfill is military service.
Maura, obviously, didn't complete her education at WP.
what was the financial obligation, if any, for leaving after approx 3 semesters or 1 1/2 academic years?
and what was the end date marking her departure from WP, and the start ate of the transfer to UMASS? the transition matters.
did she send a semester in-between living at home? was she a day student during that time? or was the semester completed at WP and she was able to jump right into her studies at UMASS?
apart from the reason(s) for her being dismissed from WP, were her academics suffering during that last semester?
was she managing to rise to a tough major, chem engineering, with associated challenges and competition at WP...or was she falling?
i don't believe any of the information coming from sources that surrounded MM and her family on discussion boards in all of these years. there are all kinds of story lines made up about her life and relationships prior to her disappearance, many of which were spoon-fed and swallowed whole by the public.
alas, without verification from the institutions, and given records are inaccessible, as you know and have found, there will be no answers. and those puzzle pieces are important.
was there a financial obligation for having spent those semesters at WP?
how did expenses overlap during the transfer to UMASS? even if tuition was provided, room and board would need to be met, along with associated loans. it gets complicated.
and then she cracks up a car...and another.
if she was not the victim of stranger abduction on a rural road in NH in a matter of minutes, then the answers to her disappearance lie in the progression of starts and stops in her life beyond high school.
and why did she leave UMASS on that day, anyway?
i don't envy the task you've set out for yourself.

Patton wrote:

I figured I'd find all of you here on Memorial Day. Does your clan celebrate this like regular Americans? or you guys just 'setting up a welcoming party'?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

SnowyB wrote:

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well, i learn from you, and you learn from me.
i didn't occur to me that people attempt to drive off in a car damaged by an accident. some are probably motivated and desperate enough to do so.

SnowyB wrote:

thinking back to West Point. first of all, it's FREE. when you've got 3, 4, 5 or 7 kids at home, it's a good plan and a good solution for providing higher education.
Maura, in high school, was a student and athlete.
the expectation and progression, especially since a sibling paved the way, was to follow with daughter #2.
at the finish line, the obligation to fulfill is military service.
Maura, obviously, didn't complete her education at WP.
what was the financial obligation, if any, for leaving after approx 3 semesters or 1 1/2 academic years?
and what was the end date marking her departure from WP, and the start ate of the transfer to UMASS? the transition matters.
did she send a semester in-between living at home? was she a day student during that time? or was the semester completed at WP and she was able to jump right into her studies at UMASS?
apart from the reason(s) for her being dismissed from WP, were her academics suffering during that last semester?
was she managing to rise to a tough major, chem engineering, with associated challenges and competition at WP...or was she falling?
i don't believe any of the information coming from sources that surrounded MM and her family on discussion boards in all of these years. there are all kinds of story lines made up about her life and relationships prior to her disappearance, many of which were spoon-fed and swallowed whole by the public.
alas, without verification from the institutions, and given records are inaccessible, as you know and have found, there will be no answers. and those puzzle pieces are important.
was there a financial obligation for having spent those semesters at WP?
how did expenses overlap during the transfer to UMASS? even if tuition was provided, room and board would need to be met, along with associated loans. it gets complicated.
and then she cracks up a car...and another.
if she was not the victim of stranger abduction on a rural road in NH in a matter of minutes, then the answers to her disappearance lie in the progression of starts and stops in her life beyond high school.
and why did she leave UMASS on that day, anyway?
i don't envy the task you've set out for yourself.

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SnowyB wrote:

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well, i learn from you, and you learn from me.
i didn't occur to me that people attempt to drive off in a car damaged by an accident. some are probably motivated and desperate enough to do so.

Catnip wrote:

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West Point cadets receive their education courtesy of the American taxpayers and in return owe 5 years active duty service and 3 years in the Reserves. Cadets are free to leave up until they sign their Reaffirmation of Oath at the beginning of their junior year. If they quit or are separated after that, they are then obligated to repay the government for the cost of their time at West Point. It would be several hundreds of thousands of dollars and your wages can be garnished.
If Maura only spent 3 semesters at West Point, she did not have a financial obligation to repay the government. Her credits are free to transfer to another college.
Stealing is an honor offense and cause for separation at West Point.

Tang Zoi wrote:

The location of the saturn positioned in front of Marrottes house would change everyones perception of the scene.
There is about 215 feet difference between the Big pine and the small balsams in front of Marrottes where the saturn was found by LE.
Just came thru there this am on My way back from Ocean State. The river is flowing good today.

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SnowyB wrote:

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thanks, very much!
so, no additional financial pressure on her father or Maura to repay an additional obligation as a result of her separation from WP.

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Jenkins wrote:

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Of course people try to drive away after an accident, most people actually. You're from the north shore and were driving a Range Rover previously so you obviously don't have the same worries about money that most people do.
You've never seen people drivin around with cars that have been damaged in accidents? Many people can only afford liability insurance on their car and many of thoe same people don't have AAA and can't afford to pay for a tow so they have to try to drive away from an accident if their car isn't that damaged.
It's probably more common for people to try to drive away from an accident than not. You don't have to be desperate to do that, just not having a lot of money is a prime motivator, somethin you must not know much about.

Tang Zoi wrote:

The location of the saturn positioned in front of Marrottes house would change everyones perception of the scene.
There is about 215 feet difference between the Big pine and the small balsams in front of Marrottes where the saturn was found by LE.
Just came thru there this am on My way back from Ocean State. The river is flowing good today.

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Jenkins wrote:

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Of course people try to drive away after an accident, most people actually. You're from the north shore and were driving a Range Rover previously so you obviously don't have the same worries about money that most people do.
You've never seen people drivin around with cars that have been damaged in accidents? Many people can only afford liability insurance on their car and many of thoe same people don't have AAA and can't afford to pay for a tow so they have to try to drive away from an accident if their car isn't that damaged.
It's probably more common for people to try to drive away from an accident than not. You don't have to be desperate to do that, just not having a lot of money is a prime motivator, somethin you must not know much about.