Maura Murray

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Det Columbo wrote:

What time was She at the Liquor store......?

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Orko Kringer wrote:

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shortly after 3:40 p.m.

Det Columbo wrote:

Leaving at 4 PM w/ travel time at 2 hr 45 min adding in bathroom stop and gas....3 hrs.
This puts Maura in Benton area at 7 PM......
John

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Orko Kringer wrote:

Maura left her campus around 3:30 p.m. and her atm transaction and liquor store receipt back this time-frame up plus witness testimony.
DOing a google map directions search from UMASS Amherst campus from 3:30 p.m. to the time Maura checked for voicemail messages 4:37 p.m.(going up I-91 North, her believed route) would place you in the vincinity and in between Walpole and Charlestown Vermont. Less than 30 miles from this location is Londonderry Vermont and not Londonderry new Hampshire.
Maura checking her phone for messages would mean she briefly turned it on and by her turning on her phone, her phone registers communication with any nearby cell phone tower (pinging) that pinging would show up to sprint and not be on her cell phone records. Sprint would notify law enforcement about the pinging, but could not give them the precise details of the ping until police went and got a proper search warrant.
Now a days it all doesn't matter, your cell phone can be turned off and due to GPS technology it will still trace your every movements, but not so in 2004. Your phone had to be turned on which Maura's was for a brief amount of time, long enough for her to check for phone messages which registered a ping off a cell tower when she did so. And she was physically impossible able to ping off the cell tower in Londonderry New Hampshire which was well over 2 hours past her campus, knowing that she left her campus at 3:30 p.m or around there.

Det Columbo wrote:

Leaving at 4 PM w/ travel time at 2 hr 45 min adding in bathroom stop and gas....3 hrs.
This puts Maura in Benton area at 7 PM......
John

Orko Kringer wrote:

I'm wanting to say (going off memory) that she stopped at a Fleet Atm machine (whatever that's worth) I believe in 2004 there were three fleet atm machines around Amherst, but likely elsewhere as well.

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Orko Kringer wrote:

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no Benton would mean Maura never went to the spot her car wrecked at and I am certain that she was the one that was at the scene of her own accident.

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Det Columbo wrote:

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I just used Benton as a reference point. Where Mauras car was found is just a little over a mile from Benton. Same time frame involved.

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>which ATM did she stop at?

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BillNH wrote:

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Isn't it possible that someone else did call her phone? Someone she was expecting to call her. And that caller left a voicemail with information regarding her trip north. That callers number does not show up on her (Rauch's) cell phone bill because it did not connect (on purpose). And Maura, knowing this person was calling, would then check her messages to get that voice mail, resulting in her VM number showing at 4:37 and not the callers?

Orko Kringer wrote:

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Its' possible for sure.
But it would be an awfully strange coincidence that Maura's last known cell phone activity also took place late in the afternoon and was also in the range of Londonderry, just not Londonderry New Hampshire but rather Londonderry Vermont.
This is a missing person's case. And it would be unheard of if police knew Maura's locations not to share that with the public and especially the family.
The public would be a great source for police if they knew Maura stopped somewhere for instance for food, gas etc..
The fact no one knows Maura's exact stops that night or her route of travel all but proves she didn't have her phone on.
If her phone was on, she was trackable. Just sitting in her front seat (not receiving or making phone calls) and the phone is pinging away because it is on.
Maura had her phone turned off.
All of a sudden she turned it on briefly to check for messages (my assumption would be the voice mail message she left billy at 2:18 p.m., she was likely wanting to see if he ever tried to get back to her.
Once she had to turn on her phone, it pinged. The cell phone records won't show that but her cell phone company will see the pinging activity and would contact police about that.
But Police wouldn't get anything out of the phone company until they filed an affidavit which is what took place.

BillNH wrote:

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Your assumption is that the ping is Maura calling her VM?
I am suggesting that the ping for VM is obvious based on her phone records and the ping is truly another caller. No idea about what the sbject of the call may have been but I do believe it is a number other than her VM check.

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BillNH wrote:

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Your assumption is that the ping is Maura calling her VM?
I am suggesting that the ping for VM is obvious based on her phone records and the ping is truly another caller. No idea about what the sbject of the call may have been but I do believe it is a number other than her VM check.

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Orko Kringer wrote:

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Do u understand what I am saying though.
Police had her cell phone records, they didn't need sprint to tell them about Maura checking her phone messages.
However, Maura's phone pinging (because she checked for messages) would be something that does not show up on the cell phone records and sprint would be only privy too.
Sprint can not legally tell police what the ping they have is because of privacy laws.
Police had to make out an affidavit to get the ping info.
All in all I am saying that Maura checking her phone for messages left both a cell phone record trail and a separate cell phone ping trail.