Maura Murray

hannah_b wrote:

What do y´all make of the new Maura blog? The author claims to have gathered a lot of info not previously made public. Just more BS or what?
http://mauramurray.blogspot.com/

Nope didn't know about this. Will keep an eye on it though. He claims to have uncovered facts previously unknown. We will see.

Bill

hannah_b wrote:

What do y´all make of the new Maura blog? The author claims to have gathered a lot of info not previously made public. Just more BS or what?
http://mauramurray.blogspot.com/

I will also say he has a lot of guts using the title of a well known book. I suspect that the title like the rest of the book is copyrighted. Seems like a foolish thing to do and close to plagiarism but no skin off my nose.

Bill

hannah_b wrote:

What do y´all make of the new Maura blog? The author claims to have gathered a lot of info not previously made public. Just more BS or what?
http://mauramurray.blogspot.com/

This guy has written books besides being a journalist. Maybe he has info....while searching google I see that he came out with his declaration to pursue Maura's case in Jan 2011. Six months have gone by, he's connecting to facebook, twitter, and many links..blogspots too.

I myself would never write in to someone like that, established or not. But I am glad to see someone trying to help solve this mystery and wish him the very best.

hannah_b wrote:

What do y´all make of the new Maura blog? The author claims to have gathered a lot of info not previously made public. Just more BS or what?
http://mauramurray.blogspot.com/

For now Hannah it's going on my BS list until it doesn't sound so dramatic and mysterious.
If he does have uncovered clues and facts I hope he has shared them with the police.
I don't understand the need to release the information a little at a time and to end with a promise of "more soon".
If he's going to release all these clues and facts anyway as he states why dangle them in front of the people and release them a little bit at a time? I guess time will tell, maybe....

blogs and books often do not contain facts and truth.
the truth about MM's disappearance is unknown, or else she would have been found by now.
the very people who have fed the rumor mill for 7+ years are the same ones who claim to have kept fastidious records and documentation...and who have entered into some agreement with a writer.
my practical advice would be to believe nothing of what you read and/or hear unless the sources are verified, and information is officially confirmed.

Snowy wrote:

blogs and books often do not contain facts and truth.
the truth about MM's disappearance is unknown, or else she would have been found by now.
the very people who have fed the rumor mill for 7+ years are the same ones who claim to have kept fastidious records and documentation...and who have entered into some agreement with a writer.
my practical advice would be to believe nothing of what you read and/or hear unless the sources are verified, and information is officially confirmed.

Excellant advice.

The new MM blog by James Renner is certainly an intriguing project. There is a Wikipedia page available on Mr Renner and his credentials as a researcher, journalist and author seem credible enough. His new blog has also been highlighted on Websleuth´s MM pages earlier today,
Keeping the spotlight on Maura´s case is a worthwhile thing in itself, but whether Mr Renner might be able to come up with any new and verified information remains to be seen.
He apparently is in the process of writing a book on the MM case, and would thus have an automatic interest in "feeding" the public with a few snippets of what he might be able to come across as far as possible new clues are concerned. With the upcoming book in mind he´s bound to be releasing just a few musings on his blog - otherwise his book would be unlikely to find enough buyers.
How an investigative journalist as Mr Renner would be able to ferret out any meaningful new clues in this convoluted case is, of course, open to some doubts. At least he does seem to be checking out Hanson, MA, Amherst, MA, and Haverhill, NH, which at least seems to indicate an unbiased mind from a geographical perspective.
The blog certainly gives one a sense of a spooky Bogeyman story being in the offing.
As an aside I can´t help wondering why Mr Renner chose that particular picture of Maura with her hair down in the way she rarely wore it. Perhaps this is some kind of allusion to the SBD´s statement of her hair being down when he spoke with Maura at her car.
I´ll certainly be checking back on the new blog to see what might come up there in due course.

Eurobserver wrote:

As an aside I can´t help wondering why Mr Renner chose that particular picture of Maura with her hair down in the way she rarely wore it. Perhaps this is some kind of allusion to the SBD´s statement of her hair being down when he spoke with Maura at her car.

I had some of those same thoughts. He has chose a great deal of nomenclature and other items with considerable baggage associated with them for people like us who are in the know.

Makes one wonder why. I did read a little of his other work and it looks reasonable.

Again, I'll wait to see what he comes out with. It does look as though he moderated what goes on the blog so being able to rebut him may be a problem on his site. Of course there are open forums.

And one other comment. I personally have found nothing useful in all the years I have looked to come out of Websleuths. Few people (in Mauras case) with sometimes very uninformed theories and no one trying to correct them. I certainly don't need to exert the effort to join a site I think does harm. I have heard some remarkably stupid statements on the site made by some long time users with no rebuttal by moderators or the owner. I have also seen useful remarks removed because even though they were correct apparently it offended someones weak constitution. I would also consider some to be virtually vigilantes. I have also read other non-flattering things about the website in the open domain. You can Google search about it.

Bill

personal observations over several years, fewer than some, and more than others, assure that i refuse to be sold a bill of goods. the reworking of"snippets" into a storyline padded with drama won't be passing for....truth.

surely, real family and real law enforcement would have absolutely scoured all leads, contacts and geographic locations over 7+ years. the only certainty that remains is that the principals have consistently behaved poorly by violating the trust of the public with all manner of games and hostility; they have insulted the collective intelligence of the public, and have shamelessly implicated strangers in the disappearance of MM. it not a sympathetic strategy to uncover...truth.

Wiki and Websleuths do not impress or add to the credibility of any writer on this topic.
a good deal of research is required to arrive at page 1, and sorting truth from fiction is a formidable...likely an impossible task, unless one accepts, at face value, the tenets of hysterical ruminations combined and presented with value-added 'facts' to support a poorly formed theory.

i remain considerably less hopeful than others in expecting any new findings coming forward by a book or blog. however, if there is a dime to be made it will be made.

still holding out for any "official" word about this case.

Amen to that, Snowy.

hannah_b wrote:

Amen to that, Snowy.

hannah_b, i am always prepared to stand alone with my opinions, but appreciate some affirmation to know if i am on a good course of thought.

just as there is no particular way to grieve, there are variances in the ways people would go about recovering a dear one who has disappeared.
while one can only imagine the frustrations in responding to and interacting with authorities under similar circumstances, the mystery of MM's having gone missing has become nearly equal to the mystery surrounding the harsh and suspicious manner in the way the public has been treated by this family, and by extension, their core group of associates.

some folks here are generally fascinated by mysteries and enjoy sleuthing. others have offered their amazing, enviable skills and expertise only to be scorned and turned away. all have had an interest in and concern for Maura.
it would have seemed better, if given the opportunity, for a family to have presented their case in a way to directly engage the support of the interested public. indeed, there were and are those opportunities. instead, it seems much damage has been done to the lives of targeted individuals.

someday, a piece of information will bring a fortunate, new direction or discovery to the cold case. perhaps, at that time, apologies will be forthcoming to those accused in the name of Maura Murray.

One thing is absolutely certain. Maura's disappearance was being investigated from a MA perspective, in MA, on Friday, May 27, 2011. It was being investigated not by the police nor by the pro bono NH private detective group that includes Weeper, et al.

Maura's family was not the source of payment for this work, which was billable and expensive.

If Maura's family is not paying for it, then who is?

Remember, in their own words, they pursue only probabilities, not mere possibilities, which they automatically toss aside. The effort on May 27 was not considered wasted. And that's from the horse's mouth.

Snowy wrote:

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someday, a piece of information will bring a fortunate, new direction or discovery to the cold case. perhaps, at that time, apologies will be forthcoming to those accused in the name of Maura Murray.

Maybe the case will eventually be solved, but who knows when? Apologies, by that point, will be useless to the deceased. Even if they were ever adequate to the living.

Beagle wrote:

<quoted text>Maybe the case will eventually be solved, but who knows when? Apologies, by that point, will be useless to the deceased. Even if they were ever adequate to the living.

yes, there is already one counted among the deceased who was casually and anonymously implicated online.

When asked face-to-face whether or not you killed Maura Murray, your already shaky self-esteem can fall way below baseline. Presumably, the question would not have been asked if the answer could not have been "yes." Big money doesn't waste too much time on mere possibilities. They focus exclusively on what they consider probabilities.

They hope the count improves.

Beagle wrote:

They hope the count improves.

From one to two. As soon as possible. They think they smell blood. Or maybe the money will dry up soon. Or maybe this charade will be exposed for what it really is. Who knows.

You might all be interested to read the updated Maura Murray blog by James Renner, who added some highly interesting new information as of today June 28th.
He has been interviewing Maura´s supervisor at the Melville Dorm Security desk of UMass Amherst, who gives a more detailed account of her interaction with Maura than I have ever seen being described anywhere else before.
It also appears that the supervisor filed a report with local LE the day after Maura´s disappearance, but has never been contacted by any detectives attached to the case.
That I find highly surprising given the circumstances.

unfortunately, Team Maura has muddied (soiled) the waters over many years. there is only theater; hearsay abounds.
question what you read, and believe even less of what you may hear.

note to ms. mayotte:

you'd be urged, by common sense, not to wait another year longer; contact the police to tell them you're interested in furthering their investigation.

Something seems strange. I thought we were told that the FBI handled the questioning of her friends etc. in MA. If this is true then I wonder how the FBI overlooked such a very important witness.
Or maybe they didn't or maybe the FBI never questioned anyone, or maybe the FBI wasn't involved at all, or maybe the sister knows more than what she's said or maybe the family knows more than what they've said or maybe Maura didn't disappear at all.
Maybe this whole thing is a huge pile of BS that even a bulldozer can't budge.

Snowy wrote:

unfortunately, Team Maura has muddied (soiled) the waters over many years. there is only theater; hearsay abounds.
question what you read, and believe even less of what you may hear.
note to ms. mayotte:
you'd be urged, by common sense, not to wait another year longer; contact the police to tell them you're interested in furthering their investigation.

Regardless of the nitwit that gave you the peanut, mmmmm peanut. Regardless, you are correct. The family and cohorts insist and continue to insist that Maura's run from school and her continued absence has nothing to do with what made her run from the school under the guise of "a death in the family". Even though they disregard that has anything to do with her running, it absolutely needs to be checked. She may have had something happen after her car crash or she may have just done what was logical to her. Continue a plan that she created at school because of stresses in her life she no longer wanted to deal with.

Bill