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Booneplantation
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JWB wrote: "In 1999, a grand jury in the brutal murder case of 6-year-old JonBenet Ramsey voted to indict her parents, John and Patsy Ramsey. But then-Boulder District Attorney Alex Hunter refused to sign it, citing that he could not prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt.
The indictment's existence was not known until earlier this year. Now a judge has ruled that the current Boulder DA Stan Garnett must show why the un-prosecuted indictment must remain secret."
14 years and nobody was aware of the indictment that was never prosecuted. The fact that there was a grand jury called has been known for a long time. What has never been challenged before is the fact that what went on on that proceeding should now become public since the murderers were never formally charged: her parents. I will never get over the fact that Pati Ramsey got away with this horrific crime.
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JWB
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Booneplantation wrote: <quoted text> The fact that a grand jury was called has been known . What was never challenged, until now, is why the proceeding should not become public at this time since it was never used to prosecute the ones who committed this horrible murder: the parents... Correct- What was not known is that the jury voted that they believed there was sufficient evidence to go to trial and the prosecutor thought not.The public was unaware of this and my point is this could be the same scenario in the MM case for all we know, I find it sort of weird because the prosecutor should have been the one to present to the judge to get it to the grand jury in the first place so why wouldn't the prosecutor want to continue to trial is interesting. Missing key parts? IDK
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JWB
Lincoln, NH
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I know that is a diff case and sorry but does anyone remember if they were able to tag the ransom note to the handwriting of the parents? I vaguely remember the mom.
I don't want to turn the moonlight talk into the Ramsey case but interested if anyone else remembers.
Thanks
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JWB
Lincoln, NH
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Sam Ledyard
Rockland, MA
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JWB wrote: <quoted text>
I find it sort of weird because the prosecutor should have been the one to present to the judge to get it to the grand jury in the first place so why wouldn't the prosecutor want to continue to trial is interesting. Missing key parts? IDK The testimony could have established probable cause but nevertheless determined to lack viability by the prosecutor (perhaps there was unanticipated testimony; or the absence of anticipated testimony). Double jeopardy does not apply in this context. So, if the prosecutor wised to strengthen the case and put it before a different grand jury, there is really no downside to taking this course of action.
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JWB
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Sam Ledyard wrote: <quoted text>
The testimony could have established probable cause but nevertheless determined to lack viability by the prosecutor (perhaps there was unanticipated testimony; or the absence of anticipated testimony).
Double jeopardy does not apply in this context. So, if the prosecutor wised to strengthen the case and put it before a different grand jury, there is really no downside to taking this course of action. Agree Sam-If they went to trial without enough evid to conv and the Ramseys got off they couldn't be re tried, but the only downside now is the Mom is gone but of course the prosecutor could not have anticipated that. Anyway, Living with guilt as long as you have a conscience would be hell on earth, If you are a sociopath then maybe not so much.
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JWB
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Sam, Do you think this could possibly be the same Senario in the MM GJ trial?
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Sam Ledyard
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JWB wrote: Sam, Do you think this could possibly be the same Senario in the MM GJ trial? Absolutely. It's not difficult to make probable cause. But that does not necessarily mean that a subsequent prosecution is likely. That may well have been the case with Maura.
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CommunistFilth
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Most Marxists have small pee-winkles
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JWB
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Sam Ledyard wrote: <quoted text>
Absolutely.
It's not difficult to make probable cause. But that does not necessarily mean that a subsequent prosecution is likely. That may well have been the case with Maura. Thanks sam, That was what I was thinking when I first started harping on the GJ thing ( LOL). We obviously don't know all the facts as usual but interesting to toss ideas around non the less.
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JWB
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CommunistFilth wrote: Most Marxists have small pee-winkles Dude , who cares about his beliefs? I only care about the Topic ( Maura), It is way to easy to bang on someone else if you have low self esteem. Do you have anything to offer about the maura Murray Case or is it just pick a target?
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JWB
Lincoln, NH
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Also if you were a man of integrity then you wouldn't change your moniker name on every post.
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Booneplantation
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JWB wrote: I know that is a diff case and sorry but does anyone remember if they were able to tag the ransom note to the handwriting of the parents? I vaguely remember the mom.
I don't want to turn the moonlight talk into the Ramsey case but interested if anyone else remembers.
Thanks One of the strangest things of this case ( and there are many) is the fact that FBI experts ( more likely the best in the world) were not able to conclude with one hundred percent certainty that the note was writen by her.although they found "someone at the house had practiced writing it. I wonder too if this gran jury proceeding ob the MM can become public...?
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Booneplantation
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CommunistFilth wrote: Most Marxists have small pee-winkles Sounds like you know a great deal of history and philosophy... Is your comment regarding the anatomical size of marxists in that respect another fact you seem to know?
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JWB
Lincoln, NH
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Booneplantation wrote: <quoted text> One of the strangest things of this case ( and there are many) is the fact that FBI experts ( more likely the best in the world) were not able to conclude with one hundred percent certainty that the note was writen by her.although they found "someone at the house had practiced writing it. I wonder too if this gran jury proceeding ob the MM can become public...? Thanks Boone, I asked JR to look into it so we will see. Thank you for your response.
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JWB
Lincoln, NH
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There are GJ cases where they look into the LE to see if everything is on the up and up so not to throw a monkey wrench but?? Was this the GJ invest? or was it an actual Poi?
I happen to think it was a poi GJ because of the Fred Murray FOI filings and what Mrs Smith etc said.
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Sam Ledyard
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JWB wrote: There are GJ cases where they look into the LE to see if everything is on the up and up so not to throw a monkey wrench but?? Was this the GJ invest? or was it an actual Poi?
I happen to think it was a poi GJ because of the Fred Murray FOI filings and what Mrs Smith etc said. If I was a betting man, I'd put my money on person of interest.
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hannah, i'm disappointed this morning to find the thanksgiving moon show didn't deliver entertainment, but just a re-hammering on a point whereby if the writer insists if must be so, then it must be so. to wit, "I happen to think it was a poi GJ because of the Fred Murray FOI filings and what Mrs Smith etc said." some advice to the writer: don't believe everything you think.
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