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Sam Ledyard wrote:

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The issue is not whether Suzanne is intelligent or sophisticated. It's whether she's observer.
Having said that, I understand that this is a delicate issue. I think we all agree that it's best to be cautious. When I identify Suzanne, I will not publish her name. Instead, I will contact her by email, explain the present issue, and ask for a comment.
Maruchan -- do you agree that this is the best approach?

Sam Ledyard wrote:

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The issue is not whether Suzanne is intelligent or sophisticated. It's whether she's observer.
Having said that, I understand that this is a delicate issue. I think we all agree that it's best to be cautious. When I identify Suzanne, I will not publish her name. Instead, I will contact her by email, explain the present issue, and ask for a comment.
Maruchan -- do you agree that this is the best approach?

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SnowyB wrote:

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oh, silly. it's enriching to appreciate the intelligent and the sophisticated, and interesting and amusing to witness the desperate attempts to revisit old news as yet another team of sleuthers comes up empty-handed…this time, with the promised date of publication looming.
is any one of you fully employed? these are billable hours! but….who to bill?

WTH-the-original wrote:

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Are you sure? I think the word is absurd. She COULD be in Canada BUT there is not one shred of evidence she is there.
What is funniest of all is that he has conned people into donating money to this ridiculous sign idea and yet there is no mention of him funding a dime of it. He actually isn't even willing to spend the money for the fee for others to fund it. I mean if I had a theory like that, I'd fund the damn thing myself, of course I would have to not think the "theory" (fantasy) was total bullsxxt. That's putting his money where his mouth is. Oh wait, no he isn't. He is willing to put everyone elses money there.
Bill

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WTH-the-original wrote:

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Are you sure? I think the word is absurd. She COULD be in Canada BUT there is not one shred of evidence she is there.
What is funniest of all is that he has conned people into donating money to this ridiculous sign idea and yet there is no mention of him funding a dime of it. He actually isn't even willing to spend the money for the fee for others to fund it. I mean if I had a theory like that, I'd fund the damn thing myself, of course I would have to not think the "theory" (fantasy) was total bullsxxt. That's putting his money where his mouth is. Oh wait, no he isn't. He is willing to put everyone elses money there.
Bill

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deanna wrote:

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Totally agree. It's almost a crime what he's doing. Let's hope that many more people don't fall for his insane theories. Next thing you know, he'll be asking people for money to go to Ireland...because apparently Maura 'has been there too'

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deanna wrote:

Maura is NOT in Canada. That theory is ridiculous and JR is just doing this to gain publicity for his book. One of 2 things happened that night: She A. left the car, afraid of being caught drinking & driving, and succumed to the elements. or B. same scenario, only got picked up by 'the wrong person'. This isn't some conspiracy theory as people have chosen to believe.

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Maruchan wrote:

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I have already identified Suzanne. I am glad that you will not publish her name (and I hope that includes any other personally identifiable information). My feeling is that it will be a waste of time to contact her as I am certain that she will deny it. Who would admit to something like that? I have no idea if what Mason wrote about criminal charges being brought against this person is true, but even if it isn't, I can't see anybody admitting to this.
Even without her corroboration, I am satisfied that she is the author of the Geocities letter and other Quebec posts. I saw somebody on your blog saying that she simply picked up info already known, but that isn't the point to me, it is the many similarities in writing patterns that proves to me it is her. As always, it will be up to others to decide what they believe. I think we have done pretty much all that can be done. I am just really glad that you brought this up, because I have never believed that Citigirl had anything to do with this issue. If Renner continues on without acknowledging that he has no proof that Citigirl is the author, and that there is far more proof that the author is Suzanne/Adagio/etc., it will add even more to his lack of credibility for me.

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the newest "researchers" vigorously delve into archived discussion boards to draw evidence for current notions and ideas, but the most important, and harder, question remains unanswered.
why did Maura Murray leave family / friends / academic life and run for NH?
someone ought to write that book.

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WTH-the-original wrote:

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You would think the charge would be fraud. Except that he is actually telling people what his moronic plan is and people are still donating. Let me clue some of those people in. If I every talk about a theory, and need money to figure out if it has any legs, to see if is viable. I will be using MY money to work it. Not everyone elses money. And if by some miracle I couldn't afford it. I would never insist that you people who fund me would also be responsible for whatever taxes and fees need be paid. That those fees and taxes must be paid for by you so you can give me your money. I mean holy shxt how stupid can those people be? And you are correct, I was thinking Ireland is next on the agenda. Certainly if he gets enough nitwits to fund his sign idea. I am sure he will ride that "free money" pony until it drops dead. After Ireland, what... anyone know if Maura has an Jewish relatives or more to the point, where he would like to visit next? Maybe a nice trip to Israel, maybe Bora-Bora?
Bill

Booneplantation wrote:

<quoted text> To say that Renner is engaged in fraud because he wants some billboards of Maura being put up, is simply slander. Just because you don't like him it gives not one the right to go this far and accuse him of theft. Disgusting and quite pathetic actions coming from obviously intelligent people.

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<quoted text> To say that Renner is engaged in fraud because he wants some billboards of Maura being put up, is simply slander. Just because you don't like him it gives not one the right to go this far and accuse him of theft. Disgusting and quite pathetic actions coming from obviously intelligent people.

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To continue with the trend of making meaningless points.....Since WTH's comment is written, it will never be slander.

Sam Ledyard wrote:

TWO DAYS before the Topix posts from "Canada" and "Tourist in Canada," "Suzanne" announced that she was leaving Topix: Here are her "final" words:
"As Mason said several times Maura is an adult who had every right to choose to disappear. Quoting Mason again, we have no right to interfere with the decision of an independent adult. Everything in Amherst leads me to this 'run away, start a new life, conclusion. But now once again Amherst is off the table and MMM has been restored.
I'll miss the good people I met here, I've learned a lot from them but right now my life is bursting at the seams and I wouldn't have time to visit here anyway, let alone read here and actually post. So I'm erasing these two forums from my favourites. Goodbye, it's been interesting and very, very educational."

SnowyB wrote:

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so? what?
maybe Beagle came along after "Suzanne"…and had some fun with multi-multi-monikers, eh?
maybe Maura, herself, dropped in?

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<quoted text> [A]nd who are the fools that hightailed it off to Canada on a ….. hunch?

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Sam Ledyard wrote:

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Which is more likely?
That Alden and Maura conspired against Suzanne? Or that it WAS Suzanne?
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I have never stepped foot in Canada.

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James Renner wrote:

I launched the fundraising effort for the billboards today. Check out the website if you're interested in helping.
Thanks.