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I don't want to put words in your mouth, but you seem to be implying that people have information they are with holding because of local bashing? Do you know that, or is this your opinion? Withholding information could have legal repercussions,correct?
Gee Sara what a great way to get someone to step forward with any information they may have. Mention their might be legal repercussions if they do because they with held that information and didn't come forward earlier.
Are you by chance working with shack?
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Shack, is that you?
Clearly someone who hasn't looked at the history of the individual in question.
The beautiful thing about logic, is that it can't be hypocritical, by its definition it is without malice. All readers, can verify on his/her own the veracity of the statements. That may not be your strong suit though.
Oh and just for future reference, I am writing, not talking. One you use your eyes the other your ears. I'll leave which one is which as an exercise for you to work out.
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Bill
Then I suppose your statement that people can say what they want on their website should have read people can write what they want, correct?

It still doesn't mean there is an iota of truth to the words.

Too bad you are much too busy in the real world to make your website because I sure would like to see what proof you have to support your ridiculous ideas, be they spoken or written. Seems to me you have plenty of time to waste on the various forums.

What a tool you are Bill.

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Sara wrote:
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I don't want to put words in your mouth, but you seem to be implying that people have information they are with holding because of local bashing? Do you know that, or is this your opinion? Withholding information could have legal repercussions,correct?
I am not implying Sara. I am stating unequivocally that WE MAY NEVER KNOW, if someone in the area knows or saw anything. Because of the hate-filled poisonous environment that she created the chances that someone will come forward is likely zero, even today. And to my knowledge there are no legal repercussions depending on what it was they saw or were involved in. Just mentioning that you saw Mr X digging a hole in the backyard of his home. The law doesn't require you to report that. But, it might be something interesting to know if someone actually saw that.

Considering the toxic environment that was created, no one in their right mind would have gotten involved in this case. And I don't blame them. I felt dirty at times just trying to talk to her about it.

We have primarily one person and one person only for that toxic environment. And she was repeatedly asked, begged etc to stop. She never did.

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Bill

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man in the mirror wrote:
<quoted text>What a tool you are Bill.
Yes I am. A Multitool, like an expensive Leatherman. That is why I have to keep working/studying. In order to stay useful.

Oh, you can Google what a Multitool or Leatherman is, douche-bag. You can Google that also.

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Gee Sara what a great way to get someone to step forward with any information they may have. Mention their might be legal repercussions if they do because they with held that information and didn't come forward earlier.
Are you by chance working with shack?
Wowzer, I have no idea who Shack is other than her posts here on topix and what you guys say about her shack attacks. I am sorry for asking a question about legality. Bill seems to be familiar with law, so I asked him the question. The reason being, is I wonder if that would be what's stopping someone from coming forward is if they are scared they will get in trouble, otherwise, there really isn't a good reason to withhold information unless they are guilty of something to do with her disappearance. Perhaps someone knows the tiniest bit of information that they didn't deem important to the case at the time, and then later realized they should have come forward, and are now to scared because they think they will be in trouble for not coming forward.
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I am not implying Sara. I am stating unequivocally that WE MAY NEVER KNOW, if someone in the area knows or saw anything. Because of the hate-filled poisonous environment that she created the chances that someone will come forward is likely zero, even today. And to my knowledge there are no legal repercussions depending on what it was they saw or were involved in. Just mentioning that you saw Mr X digging a hole in the backyard of his home. The law doesn't require you to report that. But, it might be something interesting to know if someone actually saw that.
Considering the toxic environment that was created, no one in their right mind would have gotten involved in this case. And I don't blame them. I felt dirty at times just trying to talk to her about it.
We have primarily one person and one person only for that toxic environment. And she was repeatedly asked, begged etc to stop. She never did.
In memory of SBD
Bill
thanks Bill, good to know. I hope that if someone does know something, whether they think important or not, they will come forward and they can feel safe knowing they won't get into trouble with the law.
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WTF-the-original wrote:
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Yes I am. A Multitool, like an expensive Leatherman. That is why I have to keep working/studying. In order to stay useful.
Oh, you can Google what a Multitool or Leatherman is, douche-bag. You can Google that also.
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Bill
Yup, working hard on these threads that you have repeated stated are useless and only for entertainment purposes.

You are entertaining in a stupid humor kind of way way ... dumb and dumber!

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Yup, working hard on these threads that you have repeated stated are useless and only for entertainment purposes.
You are entertaining in a stupid humor kind of way way ... dumb and dumber!
At the risk of feeding the troll. Do you see lots of forward movement going on here?

And changing your name doesn't help when you use the same uneducated phrases and patterns in your writing. We still know its the same troll.

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Clint wrote:
It was easier to disappear rather than disappoint everyone by coming out of the closet.In her mind anyway.Just a theory.
This is one of my favorite theories...
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credit where credit is due, WTF-the-original...she, undeniably, had some help in spreading toxicity. not unlike bellows to a flame or wind to mold, the band of ladies did a great job. group effort. team toxic. SBD has, at the very least, your unfailing support. he needs it, even posthumously.
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At the risk of feeding the troll. Do you see lots of forward movement going on here?
And changing your name doesn't help when you use the same uneducated phrases and patterns in your writing. We still know its the same troll.
Bill
You know nothing about me, but of course you think you do. I know you can't help that though, Bill, being a rude know it all is just in your nature. You've been doing the same thing for years.
Bravo!
Encore, Encore!
This show never ends.
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Thanks for your support.
I don't really think I have the time. I spend most of my time actually busy with other pursuits that make a bigger difference in the world, but it certainly crosses my mind at times. And if pushed hard enough it might happen. Dedicated to SBD, explaining the dangers of allowing people with room temperature IQ's to make wild, unsubstantiated accusations against innocent people in a public forum and the damage it can cause them. Also the legal options available against people who insist on doing such things. As it directly pertains to this case with the cast of characters. No real names, except Maura of course. But destruction of the persons pseudonym should be enough. I think we are close to that already. It seems to be enough that she is possibly trying to revamp her persona. Trying to make it appear that she might be relevant. Very, very few posts. None with the venom or sputtering sentence fragments of old. I seem to be having an effect. Its only taken these extreme measures. One can only wonder what would have happened if she took this posture six years ago, when this was first brought up about how she was poisoning the entire area and that she should stop trying to alienate everyone in the area of interest since we were looking for their cooperation.
Oh well, we may never know what we might have found out. All water under the bridge to her. Maura's family still lives with the effects of her campaign though.
In memory of SBD
Bill
It is so ambivilant to read you do not have time to spend here, since you have spent an inordinate amount of time and energy trying to what?? Let's see, Shack is one of your most prolific subjects. IMO if she says nothing of interest, ignore her. Then we have the poor, mismiligned school bus driver. Here, possibly was the last person to see Maura alive. Here was a man who spoke freely on tv and to newspapers. Here was a man who offered to help. Here was a man who was planning to move to Florida for several years and did. The words he spoke are relevant to conversation here and the only media available to us are newspaper and television reports which can be considered official in this venue. Actually you may very well dismiss the importance of his televised and reported statements by making a martyr of him in your sig., that of course is my opinion.
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Hi Bill
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This is one of my favorite theories...
like what?

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Anne wrote:
<quoted text>It is so ambivilant to read you do not have time to spend here, since you have spent an inordinate amount of time and energy trying to what?? Let's see, Shack is one of your most prolific subjects. IMO if she says nothing of interest, ignore her. Then we have the poor, mismiligned school bus driver. Here, possibly was the last person to see Maura alive. Here was a man who spoke freely on tv and to newspapers. Here was a man who offered to help. Here was a man who was planning to move to Florida for several years and did. The words he spoke are relevant to conversation here and the only media available to us are newspaper and television reports which can be considered official in this venue. Actually you may very well dismiss the importance of his televised and reported statements by making a martyr of him in your sig., that of course is my opinion.
Hello Anne. Where to start? These posts aren’t for you so your ambivalence to my writings don’t really concern me. My apparent focus on the person who had created such a caustic environment is my function now, as I stated when I started attempting to keep her in check. I believe to a large degree that has been successful, and just as importantly fun, and entertaining. It doesn’t need to be entertaining to you, it is entertaining to me. While she seemed to enjoy the misery she put countless others through as we waded through her verbal feces, so I now enjoy rebutting her old malicious writings. I have on occasion ignored her when her writings have its usual banality. When they seek to do harm, when they spread misinformation, I respond.

Not to worry Anne, all this I do in whatever spare time I have. Nothing else suffers because of it. Thankfully, I can still do what I need to do and keep her in check. Is it over the line? I don’t think so. By my watch I still have around three more years to do this. And that is providing after those three years are up she doesn’t start where she left off. Keeping the electrons from spreading her crap is a worthwhile pursuit. Several of us begged her to stop doing what she was doing. We warned her that it was having a negative effect. Told her that it was causing problems. None of that worked. This seems to be working. She hardly ever comes here anymore and everyone is better off for that.

SBD is a silent hero. Didn’t want fanfare, didn’t want recognition, didn’t want attention for what he did. He thought, he was being a decent human being attempting to help a person stuck in the snow and possibly hurt in winter. Then he gets bullied by someone online, in the darkness, hidden. Tries to destroy his reputation with innuendo, lies, mistruths. A reputation built over decades. Not a shred of evidence anywhere but she goes after him like a monkey after a cupcake. In the process, not only does she attempt to destroy his reputation, but she continues on to insinuate that others in the area including the police and “big wigs” are somehow all involved in an abduction, murder and cover-up. With no evidence to even suggest such a thing. No evidence to even suggest any crime was committed.

You might feel that what she has done can be ignored. I don’t feel that way. What she did can and likely did have a chilling effect on the people of that area and should be a warning of what these actions unchecked, could have on any other future event like this. Allowing her to get away with this would likely show anyone else thinking of getting involved in such an event. Look what happened to SBD. Its better I don’t stop, I don’t help. I don’t want to get involved, I don’t want to tell anyone what I know. I would subject myself and my family and my community to scrutiny by anyone with bats in their belfry and a computer. Better to just move along. SBD is a martyr and was a brave voice.

In memory of SBD

Bill
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WTF-the-original wrote:
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Hello Anne. Where to start? These posts aren’t for you so your ambivalence to my writings don’t really concern me. My apparent focus on the person who had created such a caustic environment is my function now, as I stated when I started attempting to keep her in check. I believe to a large degree that has been successful, and just as importantly fun, and entertaining. It doesn’t need to be entertaining to you, it is entertaining to me. While she seemed to enjoy the misery she put countless others through as we waded through her verbal feces, so I now enjoy rebutting her old malicious writings. I have on occasion ignored her when her writings have its usual banality. When they seek to do harm, when they spread misinformation, I respond.
Not to worry Anne, all this I do in whatever spare time I have. Nothing else suffers because of it. Thankfully, I can still do what I need to do and keep her in check. Is it over the line? I don’t think so. By my watch I still have around three more years to do this. And that is providing after those three years are up she doesn’t start where she left off. Keeping the electrons from spreading her crap is a worthwhile pursuit. Several of us begged her to stop doing what she was doing. We warned her that it was having a negative effect. Told her that it was causing problems. None of that worked. This seems to be working. She hardly ever comes here anymore and everyone is better off for that.
SBD is a silent hero. Didn’t want fanfare, didn’t want recognition, didn’t want attention for what he did. He thought, he was being a decent human being attempting to help a person stuck in the snow and possibly hurt in winter. Then he gets bullied by someone online, in the darkness, hidden. Tries to destroy his reputation with innuendo, lies, mistruths. A reputation built over decades. Not a shred of evidence anywhere but she goes after him like a monkey after a cupcake. In the process, not only does she attempt to destroy his reputation, but she continues on to insinuate that others in the area including the police and “big wigs” are somehow all involved in an abduction, murder and cover-up. With no evidence to even suggest such a thing. No evidence to even suggest any crime was committed.
You might feel that what she has done can be ignored. I don’t feel that way. What she did can and likely did have a chilling effect on the people of that area and should be a warning of what these actions unchecked, could have on any other future event like this. Allowing her to get away with this would likely show anyone else thinking of getting involved in such an event. Look what happened to SBD. Its better I don’t stop, I don’t help. I don’t want to get involved, I don’t want to tell anyone what I know. I would subject myself and my family and my community to scrutiny by anyone with bats in their belfry and a computer. Better to just move along. SBD is a martyr and was a brave voice.
In memory of SBD
Bill
Amen.
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Call for volunteers to search for missing woman
WATERVILLE VALLEY – As the third full day of searching winds down Friday afternoon without finding an elderly woman not seen since Tuesday afternoon, officials are putting the call out to volunteers to come out Saturday.

"We'll need them," said Fish and Game Maj. Kevin Jordan.
http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx...
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someone online, in the darkness, hidden. Tries to destroy his reputation with innuendo, lies, mistruths. A reputation built over decades. Not a shred of evidence anywhere but she goes after him like a monkey after a cupcake. In the process, not only does she attempt to destroy his reputation, but she continues on to insinuate that others in the area including the police and “big wigs” are somehow all involved in an abduction, murder and cover-up. With no evidence to even suggest such a thing. No evidence to even suggest any crime was committed.
You might feel that what she has done can be ignored. I don’t feel that way. What she did can and likely did have a chilling effect on the people of that area and should be a warning of what these actions unchecked, could have on any other future event like this. Allowing her to get away with this would likely show anyone else thinking of getting involved in such an event. Look what happened to SBD. Its better I don’t stop, I don’t help. I don’t want to get involved, I don’t want to tell anyone what I know. I would subject myself and my family and my community to scrutiny by anyone with bats in their belfry and a computer. Better to just move along. SBD is a martyr and was a brave voice.
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Bill]Hello Bill. Your goals puzzle and disturb me, ie:(you want to keep a poster in check). Then you state fun and entertainment. These are fairly aggressive statements and most definitely sad. I believe you have taken this as a challange to destroy apparent statements from another poster. The SBD is a witness to a disappearance, nothing more, nothing less. You have created exactly what you wanted, the martyr. It seems to me, you have taken on this subversive, aggressive action as a job with a projected timeline even!
I disagree that the SBD is a hero. He did what anyone in this area would do, he stopped to help a stranded motorist. His own ambivilant, inconsistant statements got him in trouble. His statements were looked at closely and should be. He was not bullied. Bill, this is my opinion, I have looked closely at this diversion you have created and still wonder why? The chilling effect of this embellishment is puzzling and effectively limits discussion.
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a group of women, oddly connected, fancy themselves to be judge and jury in the disappearance, quite some time ago, of a young woman they do not know and never met.
they have attached themselves like velcro to a mission....day and night vigilance, by proxy and from a distance, of certain individuals around the area where she might have last been seen.
Bill focuses on a chief misinformer and carrier of old news to assist in diverting her from spreading her toxins. he uses facts and logic to counter her ignorance, accusations and innuendo. a proper and healthy mission.
it is certain that this undercurrent has affected the opinions of local residents, some of whom state they will be reluctant to assist strangers in need in the future for fear of being falsely accused.
anyone can be a poor witness, as SBD might have been.
that he endured being unfairly and mercilessly attacked makes him heroic in the opinions of some, as he was targeted and bullied to the very end of his life and beyond.
february will mark the beginning of round 7.

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