Maura Murray

Findmaura wrote:

Sam,
I thought I should offer some observations I have made possibly involving your Quebec quest.Its possible you have knowledge of these things already but what if...A long time poster from this board has additional posts in A S.D topix forum..Additionally I believe the same poster discusses a case "near" and dear to him/her in a Topix Utica thread(A local Ma. Case).You did not provide links to the threads I speak of when you were tossing out links recently.Its clear who the person is which I wont divulge here.

Ridiculous wrote:

So,
I've just been lurking for a while. Sam Ledyard has a facebook account as Sam Ledyard or Samuel Ledyard, but, he doesn't post as Sam Ledyard? So he has an anonymous face book acct?! Who does that and why?
Sam, you need to pass the bar before you start calling yourself an attorney. In fact, I'm going to give you the advice your mommy should have given you; don't go into law Sam, it's not an area you will do well in. You are going to help JR bring his law suite forward ? Yes, well after the fiasco James had in doggy court, you know when he got thrown in jail for contempt, because he tried to bring a stalking case before a judge that was hearing a case concerning his sisters dog....Remember? He wouldn't shut up or listen when the judge suggested that his sister file that case in the proper courts..to the extent that he had to be restrained and hauled out in cuffs..FROM DOGGY COURT!!
I've tried like hell to believe that James is doing something worthwhile here. but, I've had to face reality and let go of that notion. James expresses his belief that no one is entitled to privacy. His belief. This would be his individual morality. Because he believes this, he feels justified in exposing any individual that arouses his interest in this or any case he is involved in. Dean Runkle, Dan Drieforth or whatever his name is. Convicted by James but not the state. Remember when citizens would storm the pokey and lynch people? Good times! especially if it was an innocent member of ones own family. convicted by public opinion. Here's something to consider. James is a bigot. If you don't believe as he does, and I'm not even going to go into his whole political standing, concerning morality and privacy, he doesn't care. Because he feels his way is the only, and right way, he will threaten to expose you. He doesn't allow for anyone else's beliefs or rights concerning their privacy. Bigot and Zealot. I have my own beliefs, but they relate to just me. I don't expect the rest of the world to encumber themselves with them, but, I do expect the rest of the world to respect them and not cross the boundaries I set for myself.
Sam, You blog is looking like one of those wild west abandoned movie sets with tumble weeds blowing all over the place. It's looking like Spahn Ranch before Charlie moved in with the girls. Why not spend a little time over there and spruce the place up a bit? You're doing nothing of value here.
Tyler, you're like a vacuum. No original thoughts at all. Just absolutely nothing going on there. Between your ears is a vast empty space, an echo chamber for everything Sammy says....You've crawled so far up his ass that he's getting prenatal treatment from his Dr.
Granny,
Just shut the hell up. You burned all your bridges so you swam back?! For the sake of goodness, I've never seen anyone get so drunk that they actually slur while typing! Granny/JWB accuses someone of playing both sides of the fence?!

Wowzer the real one wrote:

It seems that this has become more about finding out posters identities than it is in finding out what happened to Maura Murray.

Hold up wrote:

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Lurker, but the fact is you should go back and reread...ONCE AGAIN, I DIDN"T, QUIJA DID. And, FYI, I don't have a college education nor did I attend advanced high school classes.

NEXT wrote:

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Wowser, in case this has not been answered for you yet, Aaron Swartz posted that Maura's body is burried in Hilltop Quarry and was burried there by Butch Atwood. It was posted as fact not opinion. There were subsequent posts, or rather questions, further implicating Butch Atwood.

Hold up wrote:

always wondered why she was protesting so much...and wasn't she good buds with Suzanne...ya, I think so.

...What exactly does quija have to complain about? No body accused her of anything...just reposted HER post. Really odd how Snowy and Wozer changed the subject so fast though....just sayin. Guess they didn't know all that went on behind their backs...anybody been Ben lately?

Skunki wrote:

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That is abundantly clear.
Its also abundantly clear that their anger has motivated them to create their own evidence in some cases. In others, they glance at flimsy evidence and grab on to what fits their own preconceived notions. All of which, does not lead them to the conclusions they clearly intend to fabricate, and already have fabricated.
Samuel is insincere and is not interested in the truth, in spite of his claims that he is open to criticism. No honest person would draw the public conclusions he has. But since he feels self righteous and very defensive, he is not about to come to that
realization.
What a sorry group of people.

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Sam Ledyard wrote:

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The change in your behavior baffles me.
I enjoyed our correspondence and I know that I found an answer; a major step in the right direction. In response, you stopped emailing me and launched an attack on me on this forum.
You call me a "fraud" because I don't use my birth name. I told you that at the very beginning of our correspondence. You didn't complain about it then.
The only thing that makes sense to me is that you posted as Suzanne or know who did and are protecting him or her.
What caused your change in behavior?

Skunki wrote:

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That is abundantly clear.
Its also abundantly clear that their anger has motivated them to create their own evidence in some cases. In others, they glance at flimsy evidence and grab on to what fits their own preconceived notions. All of which, does not lead them to the conclusions they clearly intend to fabricate, and already have fabricated.
Samuel is insincere and is not interested in the truth, in spite of his claims that he is open to criticism. No honest person would draw the public conclusions he has. But since he feels self righteous and very defensive, he is not about to come to that
realization.
What a sorry group of people.

Skunki wrote:

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Yo crazy man. We have never emailed. I will never email you. No sane person would talk to anyone that makes the logic leaps you do.

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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I agree. It's a shame though that they bring all their crap over to Topix and then bash it every chance they get.

Ridiculous wrote:

So,
I've just been lurking for a while. Sam Ledyard has a facebook account as Sam Ledyard or Samuel Ledyard, but, he doesn't post as Sam Ledyard? So he has an anonymous face book acct?! Who does that and why?
Sam, you need to pass the bar before you start calling yourself an attorney. In fact, I'm going to give you the advice your mommy should have given you; don't go into law Sam, it's not an area you will do well in. You are going to help JR bring his law suite forward ? Yes, well after the fiasco James had in doggy court, you know when he got thrown in jail for contempt, because he tried to bring a stalking case before a judge that was hearing a case concerning his sisters dog....Remember? He wouldn't shut up or listen when the judge suggested that his sister file that case in the proper courts..to the extent that he had to be restrained and hauled out in cuffs..FROM DOGGY COURT!!
I've tried like hell to believe that James is doing something worthwhile here. but, I've had to face reality and let go of that notion. James expresses his belief that no one is entitled to privacy. His belief. This would be his individual morality. Because he believes this, he feels justified in exposing any individual that arouses his interest in this or any case he is involved in. Dean Runkle, Dan Drieforth or whatever his name is. Convicted by James but not the state. Remember when citizens would storm the pokey and lynch people? Good times! especially if it was an innocent member of ones own family. convicted by public opinion. Here's something to consider. James is a bigot. If you don't believe as he does, and I'm not even going to go into his whole political standing, concerning morality and privacy, he doesn't care. Because he feels his way is the only, and right way, he will threaten to expose you. He doesn't allow for anyone else's beliefs or rights concerning their privacy. Bigot and Zealot. I have my own beliefs, but they relate to just me. I don't expect the rest of the world to encumber themselves with them, but, I do expect the rest of the world to respect them and not cross the boundaries I set for myself.
Sam, You blog is looking like one of those wild west abandoned movie sets with tumble weeds blowing all over the place. It's looking like Spahn Ranch before Charlie moved in with the girls. Why not spend a little time over there and spruce the place up a bit? You're doing nothing of value here.
Tyler, you're like a vacuum. No original thoughts at all. Just absolutely nothing going on there. Between your ears is a vast empty space, an echo chamber for everything Sammy says....You've crawled so far up his ass that he's getting prenatal treatment from his Dr.
Granny,
Just shut the hell up. You burned all your bridges so you swam back?! For the sake of goodness, I've never seen anyone get so drunk that they actually slur while typing! Granny/JWB accuses someone of playing both sides of the fence?!

Skunki wrote:

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Agreed.
He asks questions and ignores answers he doesn't like, then makes shit up.
I don't see the point of answering his question if I am "The Santa Clara Poster." He has already decided that I am. I suspect I probably would care if I gave him any clue who I am.
I am sure he will waste weeks trying to figure out who I am so he can call me at home.
But he wants to be anonymous, and claims to be a lawyer.
Sorry but no.

Sam Ledyard wrote:

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The Santa Clara poster is Ben Franklyne. If you are not, say so.

AIden Howes Olson wrote:

Maybe I'm Benjamin Franklyne maybe I'm not. Maybe we're Suzanne maybe we're not. Maybe we're observer maybe we're not.