Maura Murray

Not Without Peril wrote:

Plus, White Wash said this after then majority of WMM was deleted:
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I have no idea what the context was, of course, since I do not have access to the complete thread.

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hannah_b wrote:

Speaking of Mason, he was hellbent on MM having an incestuous relationship to her father. His sole purpose of posting was to discredit FM. Mason was himself a childhood victim of sexual abuse, and claimed the very sight of FM made him sick.
Not saying the incest thing is true, but there certainly seemed to be something very unhealthy about MM´s relationship to her father. Maybe James should interview Mason about his reasons for posting the things he did?

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White Wash was referring to a prior Topix thread being removed, not MMM. That removal was the reason the 2009 Topix thread you refer to was started.

Maruchan wrote:

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I disagree with your opinion about Renner's post being about the Topix thread, I think his words make it very clear he was talking about the MMM forum - look at the title:
"Murray Family Shuts Down Messageboard After People Grow Suspicious of Fred"
IMO, if Renner had meant the Topix thread, he would have said so.

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Mason, to my knowledge, and by observation, carefully explored, examined and considered a number of theories; i recall he gave a good amount of time to ruling in and ruling out as much evidence as he could gather before moving on to the next theory.
you are correct in that Mason eventually revealed he was a childhood victim of sexual abuse.
after establishing 12 (18?) red herrings, he finally moved on to submit his speculative composite of ideas, based on his grasp of the few hard facts available about MM, his personal, life experiences, and most importantly, his 30 years as a defense attorney.
he immediately called FM a "jerk" upon coming to topix for a number of reasons, one of them possibly being a suspected incestuous relationship, although he never mentioned that for some time; not until he considered a number of other possibilities first.
i feel certain JR has already had the opportunity, and has likely made the connection with Mason on this subject. again, Mason's ideas being historic; old news.
i recall that Mason's leaving this discussion was June 24th….i can't recall the year…when he was satisfied there was little more he could contribute, and no additional investigating he could complete. his theory was strongly instinctual, and he brought his professional background to bear in considering his conclusions.
it was, and likely remains, an unpopular opinion about what became of MM, and, further, several longtime posters have worked hard to discredit him.

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hannah_b wrote:

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Someone had been posting to topix that posters (those of us not belonging to the Murray cult) were in for a surprise. The poster was very specific as to when this would happen, IIRC the surprise would happen June 6. The posts appeared weeks before June 6, and the thread was taken down not on June 6, but not long after. The posts were in response to posts by WW and Mason, IIRC.

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Not Without Peril wrote:

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Reminds me of a current poster who threatened me and someone close to me to take my blog down ...
One thing: as I stated, WMM was deleted on May 17, 2009 -- before June 6 (not, as you stated, after June 6).

Not Without Peril wrote:

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Reminds me of a current poster who threatened me and someone close to me to take my blog down ...
One thing: as I stated, WMM was deleted on May 17, 2009 -- before June 6 (not, as you stated, after June 6).

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hannah_b wrote:

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You shouldn´t let yourself be bullied into taking your blog down. I hope you reconsider, especially the very useful MM search engine.

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That´s what I recall too. The first, very long, topix thread that was deleted, was started in the spring of 2008. Mason quit posting sometime in 2010. At the time he started posting, many believed he had an agenda, but no one could figure out what it was. Most seemed to think it had some connection to his profession. I don´t think so. I think it was personal, and he was simply utterly disgusted with FM, and his "agenda" was to expose someone he, correctly or incorrectly, perceived as someone like the abuser from his own childhood.

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Maruchan wrote:

Renner doesn't seem to have noticed that Mason's quote is from Advocate's forum, which many of us have been using all along to find information. The word "steak" within the quote gives it away - the "wonders of the Internet" statement makes it sound like this "find" is somehow special.
Renner also implies that Advocate shut down her forum because of accusations against Fred, which I'm certain isn't true. Hopefully Advocate will stop by to address this issue.
I would also note that Renner did not include the entire quote by Mason, leaving out the disgusting "poem" about Fred murdering his daughter which I won't repeat here.
So, on the 10-year anniversary of Maura's disappearance, Renner chooses to create a blog entry to once again cast her father and family in a bad light, making up "facts" and using a theory by just another internet sleuth to imply that Fred murdered Maura.
Nice.
And people wonder why I despise this guy?

Not Without Peril wrote:

By the way: the person who threatened me is from Massachusetts. Both James' guy as well as Ben do not believe that he or she was using a proxy.

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Not Without Peril wrote:

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Reminds me of a current poster who threatened me and someone close to me to take my blog down ...
One thing: as I stated, WMM was deleted on May 17, 2009 -- before June 6 (not, as you stated, after June 6).