Maura Murray

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sophie bean wrote:

NH SP CCU link:
http://doj.nh.gov/criminal/cold-case/victim-m...
these are NOT "presumed" homicides
http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/nhsp/missi...
the list of missing persons cases being investigated by NH SP includes Maura
Unless the NHSP are trying to "smear" their own citizenry by publishing this information - they, and I, am not accusing the good citiznes of NH of anything.

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jwb wrote:

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I did mis read what you said. my appologies

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Snowy wrote:

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serial killing rings a loud bell. i believe that was your campaign for some time on topix.

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sophie bean wrote:

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No, Snowy, that's absolutely not what I said or implied here. I posted the link to TWO MAPS on NH SP own site. Not MY maps, not those of any serial-killer-conspiracy theorist. It is not my "campaign." YOU declared these "presumed" homicides - I proved that they are unsolved homicides according to NHSP. Why so infuriated? You're not a NH resident, why do you even care?

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sophie bean wrote:

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No, Snowy, that's absolutely not what I said or implied here. I posted the link to TWO MAPS on NH SP own site. Not MY maps, not those of any serial-killer-conspiracy theorist. It is not my "campaign." YOU declared these "presumed" homicides - I proved that they are unsolved homicides according to NHSP. Why so infuriated? You're not a NH resident, why do you even care?

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Snowy wrote:

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cheap shot...your credibility is neither boosted or supported by your current flip flopping and your previous posting history.
does anyone else recall SB's incessant suspicions written on Topix over a few years....suggesting serial killings and tying them to "Silky's" map? i sure as heck do.

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citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>I never said anyone lied mislead or did not tell the truth. I was very surprised no to see an actual time written in this report. Late afternoon is very vague. Example you could consider late afternoon to be around 4 and I could consider late afternoon to be around 5. This is why I feel an exact time would have been helpful especiaaly when trying to figure out a time line.

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sophie bean wrote:

Because this case provokes such extreme emotion among those who should be mildly interested, if anything. The existence of such extreme emotion looks suspicious as can be.

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Lauren wrote:

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Consider this: Sprint does in fact know the exact time of the Londonderry NH (southern NH} phone call to Maura"s cellphone as she was driving north to northern NH. But NHSP requested of them to not divulge the exact time in the affidavit because this was a part of an ongoing investigation ( the exact time might be a clue). This is a possibility. I may be wrong but I found your post to be an attempt to blur, make fuzzy a solid fact given under oath.

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sophie bean wrote:

It is NOT, repeat NOT, "Silky's" map - it is the map on the NHSP website. No amount of distracting, dragging up the past, no amount of horseshit changes the fact that these are NH unsolved homicides, not the "presumed" homicides you claimed them to be ONE page ago!!! The outrage to the families of murder vicitims by your attempted diminution of their cases is disgusting. It is precisely what I would expect of you to try to hide your blatant lie under a pile of, well, I scarce need repeat myself. It's all "very well" to squawk about "attack ducks" and other nonsense intended to remove focus from what? or whom? but it should be lost on no one that this is a transparent attempt to silence any discussion of Maura's case, any unsolved murders and any suspicious disappearances. It stinks to high heaven, and only does the opposite of what you think it's doing.

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sophie bean wrote:

It is NOT, repeat NOT, "Silky's" map - it is the map on the NHSP website. No amount of distracting, dragging up the past, no amount of horseshit changes the fact that these are NH unsolved homicides, not the "presumed" homicides you claimed them to be ONE page ago!!! The outrage to the families of murder vicitims by your attempted diminution of their cases is disgusting. It is precisely what I would expect of you to try to hide your blatant lie under a pile of, well, I scarce need repeat myself. It's all "very well" to squawk about "attack ducks" and other nonsense intended to remove focus from what? or whom? but it should be lost on no one that this is a transparent attempt to silence any discussion of Maura's case, any unsolved murders and any suspicious disappearances. It stinks to high heaven, and only does the opposite of what you think it's doing.

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sophie bean wrote:

Keep going, Wowzer and Snowy, a brilliant tag team. Perhaps you think that this is likely to make me run away, as you've run off every other single person who thinks it POSSIBLE that Maura was a vicitm of a crime. If it is simply a missing persons case, a young woman who ran away, who chose to vanish, why not just be still and let it fade away? Of what are you afraid? I guess that's the important question. Why does the mere mention of crime ANYWHERE - just as easily NH or ME or anywhere - make you so anxious?
Why am I here? Because this case provokes such extreme emotion among those who should be mildly interested, if anything. The existence of such extreme emotion looks suspicious as can be.

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Snowy wrote:

just a quik google find...reference made to "Silky's list" and entries made to WebSleuth's as Boxerz developing her reference points in 2005. good news...i wasn't born yesterday and i have a good memory.
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Lauren wrote:

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No! Maura is NOT a victim. SBD is a victim. A true victim. He's dead. Maura is a possible victim. Unlikely but possible. Fred's first words to NHLE upon arriving in NH were: "Squaw walk, squaw walk, squaw walk."
Why was Fred's first instinct (often a person's truest feelings) to speak from the heart, their deepest convictions and belief – why were his earliest contributions to the search for Maura to suggest that Maura committed suicide?
He would know more than anyone else: Maura disappeared less than 36 hrs after spending the night alone with Fred in a motel room in Hadley MA. He also spent the early part of the next day (Sunday) with her. Do not call Maura a victim. If she did a "squaw walk" (what a disgusting phrase that is) she was not a victim of foul play.
I personally believe she voluntarily disappeared to start all over again in a new place without all the baggage. And she had plenty of baggage. It takes guts to disappear, I have a whole new respect for her.
Baghdadi: "She said she wanted to disappear."
I truly do believe she is alive. There is no evidence of foul play and she is much too strong a person to have committed suicide. So many people in this world are true victims, let's not devalue the word by prematurely calling Maura a victim. When no one really has any evidence of where she is.