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jwb
Portland, ME
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just me wrote: <quoted text>I wonder what year this was that Matthew found the duct tape, etc. feb 2010
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hannah_b
Stockholm, Sweden
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On the topic of people searching for Maura Monday night... Maura received an incoming call to her cell phone at 8.10 pm Monday night that went unanswered. Still, it would indicate one of two possibilities: either she turned her cell on again at some point after the infamous Londonderry call in the "late afternoon" and before the accident at around 7 pm, OR there was a voice mail recorded at that time. In either case, LE must know who the caller was. We have been told she was supposed to call her father at 8, so maybe it was him. In which case he knew she was missing Monday night. And if people at UMass was searching for her, why didnīt they try and call her cell phone and leave a VM if nothing else?
I also read there was no gag order in place at UMass.
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Since: Oct 09
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hannah_b wrote: <quoted text>
According to Mauraīs cell phone records, she did not receive any calls that afternoon (apparently comfirmed by Helena, according to Dawn), and her phone was shut off in the "late afternoon" hours. There is no way to trace attempted unanswered calls to a shut off cell phone since information on unanswered incoming calls sits on the local cell phone memory. So - either the theory previously put out on forums was correct - the affidavit was made up to try and make somebody very nervous - OR, it concerns ANOTHER cell phone also operated by Sprint used by Maura and this phone was turned on at the time. Pure speculation of course. But think - Maura did have other boyfriend/s as confirmed by Rennerīs research. She would hardly use the phone paid for by Billyīs mother, who could see all the stuff about who Maura talked to on that cell, to call other guys. Good point about Billy's mother being able to view phone activity, that's why I wondered in a previous post if the phone at the desk Maura worked at was ever checked for incoming and outgoing calls especially to the northern NH area. Also PC's available to Maura should have been checked also. IF she had someone she was meeting they had to communicate somehow, could even have been a pay phone.
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hannah_b
Stockholm, Sweden
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just me wrote: <quoted text>I wonder what year this was that Matthew found the duct tape, etc. I believe it was in the fall of 2009, not sure though. I also recall someone posting this lead supposedly didnīt pan out. Regarding the skull found in Littleton, dna testing could take months if not a prioritized case. Iīm surprised though nothing has been said about any exam results of a forensic anthropologist, which is usually made in cases like this. They should at the very least be able to tell if adult or not and if male or female. Also, a dental comparison should not take very long and would be an easy way to rule Maura in or out. Provided the sakull had teeth, of course.
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hannah_b
Stockholm, Sweden
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jwb wrote: <quoted text>
feb 2010 You are probably right. Before Feb 5, 2010, which is the date LE called him back.
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jwb wrote: matthew
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I was hunting 7.8 miles from the site of the car crash of Maura and found cloths with duct tape with hair in the tape. I called the state police they said they would call me back. Then 4 days they called me and wanted me to show them where the cloths were since the first call to the police it snowed but we found them and never heard nothing else. A 4 day delay in response in a case like this seems a bit concerning considering it could be DNA evidence of a missing person involving crime. I wonder if tests of the hair revealed something that prompted the state to open a cold case on Maura. While finding duct tape isn't rare, tape with hair is, especially considering the location. That would be a great area for a grid search and cadaver dogs to search. Also it seems in many but not all leads in Maura's case if it was not related law enforcement made statements to such. yet it seems total silence here. Has law enforcement made any acknowledgement of this duct tape with hair being authentic?
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hannah_b wrote: <quoted text>
I believe it was in the fall of 2009, not sure though. I also recall someone posting this lead supposedly didnīt pan out.
Regarding the skull found in Littleton, dna testing could take months if not a prioritized case. Iīm surprised though nothing has been said about any exam results of a forensic anthropologist, which is usually made in cases like this. They should at the very least be able to tell if adult or not and if male or female. Also, a dental comparison should not take very long and would be an easy way to rule Maura in or out. Provided the sakull had teeth, of course. To my knowledge they haven't even verified its human have they? At the time of discovery they said possible human skull and in one article it was described as fragments while other articles described it as partial. Once again we are left to only speculate.
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Lauren
Nomans Land, MA
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just me wrote: <quoted text>
I like the idea of of two people traveling in tandom. One taking I93, and one taking the other magor route.....at some point the call is put out to Maura's phone and she does not answer it, because ahe cannot hear it. I'm only guessing here that Maura would have the charger hooked up to her phone as she drove. But it could have already been charged. Either way, the call cannot come through. Sharon had the cell records and could only see calls that actually made a connection. The pings are different in that only the towers would know such a thing. It doesn't show up on the bill. I agree. This has always made sense to me.
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Lauren
Nomans Land, MA
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just me wrote: <quoted text>Good point about a possible second cellphone. If Maura needed to keep contact with certain people Billy would object to, I can see her getting something like a track phone. Not sure if they existed back then, but I think they are pretty anonomous if you pay with cash for example. Tracfones are totally anonymous if you pay cash, available nearly everywhere - CVS, RiteAid, Stop and Shop, etc inexpensive. Tracfones have been available since 1996.
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Lauren
Nomans Land, MA
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just me wrote: <quoted text>But then, police would have to know that cell number was hers, or that she even had a second phone. Tracfones are often associated with criminal activity, so maybe LE seized it as evidence when they were searching the vacant Saturn.
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jwb
Portland, ME
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Lauren wrote: <quoted text>
Tracfones are often associated with criminal activity, so maybe LE seized it as evidence when they were searching the vacant Saturn. I would think she would have kept the tracphone with her nothing ever said that was left in her car
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jwb
Portland, ME
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tracphones are also associated with those on a low budget lets not assume criminal activity why would they sell them then?
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Snowy
Gloucester, MA
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somehow i doubt much forethought or planning went into her running away in the immediacy of the phone call to which she strongly reacted.
did anyone pay attention to Dawn's posts made about the Londonderry ping? if i recall, her conclusion was that no phone call made to or received by Maura from the vicinity of Londonderry, although the details were lost in the conversation for many of us.
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jwb
Portland, ME
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NHwoodshome wrote: <quoted text>
A 4 day delay in response in a case like this seems a bit concerning considering it could be DNA evidence of a missing person involving crime. I wonder if tests of the hair revealed something that prompted the state to open a cold case on Maura. While finding duct tape isn't rare, tape with hair is, especially considering the location. That would be a great area for a grid search and cadaver dogs to search.
Also it seems in many but not all leads in Maura's case if it was not related law enforcement made statements to such. yet it seems total silence here. Has law enforcement made any acknowledgement of this duct tape with hair being authentic? yea I agree why the long wait? I don't expect to hear anything back re results though. beauracracy is what it is. it never makes since as to the chain of command
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Lauren
Nomans Land, MA
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jwb wrote: <quoted text>
I would think she would have kept the tracphone with her nothing ever said that was left in her car LE does not always reveal everything to the public or the family. Another possibility is that the TracFone was taken out of her car by someone who might want to use it for their personal use or for criminal activity (they are really big with drug dealers). Even though a TracFone is totally anonymous when being used, a smart criminal has to be concerned about being seen on surveillance camera buying the phone in the drugstore/grocery store. These have to be counted as possibilities. I really don't know.
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Lauren
Nomans Land, MA
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jwb wrote: tracphones are also associated with those on a low budget lets not assume criminal activity why would they sell them then? I agree. I have one when I feel I need extreme privacy. I use my iPhone for everything else. I'm just saying how LE tends to think of them..
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jwb
Portland, ME
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Lauren wrote: <quoted text>
LE does not always reveal everything to the public or the family. Another possibility is that the TracFone was taken out of her car by someone who might want to use it for their personal use or for criminal activity (they are really big with drug dealers). Even though a TracFone is totally anonymous when being used, a smart criminal has to be concerned about being seen on surveillance camera buying the phone in the drugstore/grocery store. These have to be counted as possibilities. I really don't know. you are only talking minutes between ba call and the time that le showed . don't think someone had time to say oh here is a tractphone lets take it and leave all her other stuff. I think she would have kept it if she was meeting up with someone.
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jwb
Portland, ME
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Lauren wrote: <quoted text>
I agree. I have one when I feel I need extreme privacy. I use my iPhone for everything else. I'm just saying how LE tends to think of them.. Lauren you have good thoughts and ideas keep pluggin
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jwb
Portland, ME
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If it were a plan to meet someone else and she knew Billy would be privy to Cell phone records then an alternative phone might be used
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Lauren
Nomans Land, MA
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[QUOTE who="Snowy" did anyone pay attention to Dawn's posts made about the Londonderry ping? [/QUOTE] I paid attention. I just can't understand why a Sprint representative would lie under oath in an affidavit he/she is giving for NHSP. Why would State Trooper Todd Landrey say if we knew the Londonderry ping we would know everything. These are questions on my part. Not answers.
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