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LE does not always reveal everything to the public or the family. Another possibility is that the TracFone was taken out of her car by someone who might want to use it for their personal use or for criminal activity (they are really big with drug dealers). Even though a TracFone is totally anonymous when being used, a smart criminal has to be concerned about being seen on surveillance camera buying the phone in the drugstore/grocery store. These have to be counted as possibilities. I really don't know.
Tracphones also have E911 enabled unless it is specifically enabled. I've had quite enough of this crap about tracphones being proof of criminal intent and not (LOL) merely because I have one. Moderators? Any chance of removing Lauren's posts?
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How could she possibly know? She said she met Maura "once a long time ago". This does not sound to me as if she would be privy to Maura's last minute and spontaneous decisions. The question is why does this matter so much to this one poster? If Maura decided to buy and use a tracfone why would she tell anyone? She's an intelligent and independent adult and does not need permission or approval. She could buy it without anyone ever knowing it if she paid cash.
All great except that maybe, as citigirl attests, she did NOT have a second, covert Tracphone. I see a scenario where someone is attempting to establish "criminal" behavior with a suspicious Tracphone. Unfortunately for someone, this "hypothesis is not based in anything resembling fact.
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hmmm....Lauren, the hot button is glowing. always, in defense of MM, they come with an angry response, complain and cry foul/fowl against anyone who dares to speculate outside of a 360 degree bubble.
Lauren, isn't is so incredibly odd (and maddening) that WHOLE Topix threads have disappeared from time to time regarding MM? what's up with that?
i've also noticed that team members are rotated in and out of Topix coverage. most recently, citigirl was buoyed up by a few comrades.
it's always war....and it never needed to be.
i have no new information or speculative ideas to add to what already exists....but i am surely inclined to comment on the bigger picture as i perceive it.
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Fascinating. Lauren accuses everyone with a tracphone of criminal intent and Snowy's reaction is to blame my anger over that libelous comment as a "defense mechanism" of "ducks." Are you reading at all, Snowy? Clearly not. Am I "buoying up" citigirl? Hardly. YOU are making it "war" over personalities, as you have always done and are continuing even now when MANY are asking legitimate questions. I'm still not sure what your point has ever been. Is it possible that Maura made a mistake and didn't know how to handle it? Of course. I've said so openly for years. So what? I don't know much, but I know for sure that "Lauren" is full of shit. No one who isn't could make such a moronic and inflammatory comment.
So I'll ask you, Snowy, since you're bent on defending "Lauren" - do you think that most tracphone users have them for criminal purposes? or might it conceivably be because they are affordable? Just curious.
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Fascinating. Lauren accuses everyone with a tracphone of criminal intent and Snowy's reaction is to blame my anger over that libelous comment as a "defense mechanism" of "ducks." Are you reading at all, Snowy? Clearly not. Am I "buoying up" citigirl? Hardly. YOU are making it "war" over personalities, as you have always done and are continuing even now when MANY are asking legitimate questions. I'm still not sure what your point has ever been. Is it possible that Maura made a mistake and didn't know how to handle it? Of course. I've said so openly for years. So what? I don't know much, but I know for sure that "Lauren" is full of shit. No one who isn't could make such a moronic and inflammatory comment.
So I'll ask you, Snowy, since you're bent on defending "Lauren" - do you think that most tracphone users have them for criminal purposes? or might it conceivably be because they are affordable? Just curious.
i will dignify your comment only to this extent; yours has been a pattern of behavior, and, factually, it was mcsmom and Shack who rushed in to support citigirl most recently. i'm assuming, by info you've written online, that you've never met MM in person. so i'm not certain where you gather your authority.
further, you're quick to swear at others; guess that's just how you roll.
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He was hunting in February?
no, I mis understood the question he of course posted in Feb. Depends on what he was hunting for, I believe Deer season runs through the end of November. If I remember snow came later in November and he mentions snow came after he made his find.try adding to the topix post that mathew posted on. Seems odd that there were only 12 posts there and once mm group asked mathew to contact them that there were no other postings
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Hoss might know if maura had another phone number to call.
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Tracphones also have E911 enabled unless it is specifically enabled. I've had quite enough of this crap about tracphones being proof of criminal intent and not (LOL) merely because I have one. Moderators? Any chance of removing Lauren's posts?
Paranoid much? I see nowhere in her post where she says having a tracphone is proof of criminal activity. I read it as tracphones are used for anonymity, SUCH AS criminal activity, having an affair, ETC.
citigirl

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You know, I think I have met Maura more times than Citigirl, and I only served her coffee. I read this entire forum last night, and the only purpose CG is serving is to rile everyone up. It keeps us from focusing on what's important. Her very PRESENCE here is a red herring.(Normally I only post in Amherst, but man has she got my Irish up right now.) Citigirl, I don't doubt you're related. I don't doubt you've met MM and feel close to the situation. But it is simply impossible that you know all the facts you claim to. You know the official canon inside and out, yes. But your continuous inability to think critically is getting annoying. From the perspective of someone who has advocated for MM for years (I began the wiki article, which tracks back to my real name, so no lies here) I find it completely frustrating that you continually claim knowledge that isn't supported anywhere.
Anyone who claims definitive knowledge and it posting around on the internet should be ashamed. The only way Citigirl knows more than any of us here is if she's revealing things that are supposed to be still under investigation. I am so, so sick of the Facebook forum crowd who refuses to accept that there are more questions about this case than answers. We're all complicated human beings, and to paint Maura as some kind of saintly n'er do wrong is not only inaccurate but blatantly disseminates misinformation. No one's perfect, and until we have a better idea of what was going wrong in her personal life, we'll never know what happened.
And I am prepared to take my licks for posting out of turn. Huge respect to the posters who have kept the faith all this time.
I dont know everything but if I put it out there its because I know what Im talking about. Its the peoples choice as to what they want to believe. But no it is not impossible that I know the facts I do I have put my heart and soul into finding out where and what happened to Maura. I cant be held responsible for the facebook crowd. I dont even go on it.People have there own opinions as to what happened to Maura. If you have a problem with what a poster says then I suggest that you take it up with them not me.I have never painted her as a saint because I dont know. I just put out the facts that I have learned through out the years. And believe it or not I agree with you there are more questions than answers. I cant comment on Amherst or Mauras personal life before she disappeard because it is unknown to me but I sure as heck can comment on after she disappeared because I spent many years talking with people and collecting info. If you dont like my postings I suggest that you just skip over them.
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jwb wrote:
Hoss might know if maura had another phone number to call.
agree.

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1) I am by no means convinced that Maura was pregnant, and if so, who mihght be the father. I don't believe it's impossible. She would not be the first unmarried woman to get pregnant. It happens. If it is a fact, it is an important one.
2) LMC has attempted to tie MN to crimes all up and down the East Coast, including (fantastically) the Colonial Parkway Murders)
Both LMC and "Silky" positioned themselves to be "team leaders."
3)I have to wonder about "investigators" in general - hired by the family, with legitimate credentials, is not the same as "volunteers." And no, I am by no means an "investigator." My main interest in anything that any of them have to say is whether any of it contains anything useful amidst the nonsense. I don't think that has ever been established, to my knowledge, and that's why I'm asking now.
This whole pregnancy has me baffled, she was on birth control though supposedly birth control isn't 100% fool proof.

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jwb wrote:
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no, I mis understood the question he of course posted in Feb. Depends on what he was hunting for, I believe Deer season runs through the end of November. If I remember snow came later in November and he mentions snow came after he made his find.try adding to the topix post that mathew posted on. Seems odd that there were only 12 posts there and once mm group asked mathew to contact them that there were no other postings
Snowshoe rabbit and coyote were open, but since once he was asked for contact he to disappears this seems real suspect, Sadly there are so many trolls online they just muddy the water which is their agenda.
Lauren

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Tracphones also have E911 enabled unless it is specifically enabled. I've had quite enough of this crap about tracphones being proof of criminal intent and not (LOL) merely because I have one. Moderators? Any chance of removing Lauren's posts?
Are you completely insane? I clearly said that LE often thinks that way. I said I own one for certain calls that I prefer privacy on. Please show me where I said that "tracfones are proof of criminal intent" (your words exactly)" Please, please show me. I used the word associated, then realized I left out "by LE" and so then added that in a later post. Please show me and everyone else on this forum where I said "tracfones are PROOF of criminal intent" My husband buys me a new tracfone card about every 6 months when he happens to be in CVS (are they criminals too?). I use it perhaps twice a year. And I don't think he would appreciate your suggestive LOL.
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Snowy wrote:
hmmm....Lauren, the hot button is glowing. always, in defense of MM, they come with an angry response, complain and cry foul/fowl against anyone who dares to speculate outside of a 360 degree bubble.
Lauren, isn't is so incredibly odd (and maddening) that WHOLE Topix threads have disappeared from time to time regarding MM? what's up with that?
i've also noticed that team members are rotated in and out of Topix coverage. most recently, citigirl was buoyed up by a few comrades.
it's always war....and it never needed to be.
i have no new information or speculative ideas to add to what already exists....but i am surely inclined to comment on the bigger picture as i perceive it.
Snowy just because one poster shares the same opinion as another does not mean they are a team. I just look at it as some have the same opinion as others.
Lauren

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Snowy wrote:
i've also noticed that team members are rotated in and out of Topix coverage. most recently, citigirl was buoyed up by a few comrades.
You are so very correct. CG is clearly a plant. Her webbed feet are showing. She came on topix to denounce Renner's book. That did not work. So she switched to blurring red truck, then she switched to derailing Londonderry, then she switched to derailing pings and now she is working on tracfones.
I love your word "rotate", they do this to allay suspicion.
citigirl

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Lauren wrote:
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Tracfones are often associated with criminal activity, so maybe LE seized it as evidence when they were searching the vacant Saturn.
Lauren this is where I had the problem about your opinion when you said tracfones are often associated with criminal activity. If someone is involved in criminal activity there going to do it regardless of what kind of phone they have. I know several people whom have tracfones and they are good law abiding citizens that just dont have the funding to by a more expensive phone. And no LE did not sieze another phone in Mauras vacant Saturn.
Snowy

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citigirl wrote:
<quoted text> Snowy just because one poster shares the same opinion as another does not mean they are a team. I just look at it as some have the same opinion as others.
i really don't mean to be harsh, citigirl....but it's more than sharing the same opinion. members of the self-proclaimed PBB have been bound, foot to foot, and have walked in lockstep along the same path for the 3-4 years that i've been following this conversation. more than a team....a sisterhood.
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Lauren wrote:
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You are so very correct. CG is clearly a plant. Her webbed feet are showing. She came on topix to denounce Renner's book. That did not work. So she switched to blurring red truck, then she switched to derailing Londonderry, then she switched to derailing pings and now she is working on tracfones.
I love your word "rotate", they do this to allay suspicion.
exactly. hey, their underwear is showing...they are hiding something. the challenge is on for Renner. so far, so good; he's starting to connect the dots.
Lauren

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sophie bean wrote:
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covert Tracphone. suspicious Tracphone.
Covert????? Suspicious????? The fluorescent lighting in CVS is blindingly bright, There are video cameras every where. Explain your words "covert" and suspicious"
Lauren

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citigirl wrote:
<quoted text> you said tracfones are often associated with criminal activity.
Key word: Associated. Key word: Often. LE often thinks of them when investigating drug dealers.
As I have already said I have one for a supremely innocent reason. Drugs? I do not even take aspirin. Did take Advil and Tylenol for the rare headache. Advil has now been disadvised from our household for some reason or other. So now I take Tylenol approx. once every two months for a headache. So I don't think I acquired my tracfone for some illicit activity.

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