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Hmm, I'm understanding it in a different way. I take it that she was saying the LE is 7 years ahead of Renner, not family. Instead of you assuming what she meant why don't you ask her how she meant it before jumping all over her.
what I am reading is that LE has a 7 year jump on renner because they they have a connection to the family etc and I am saying that the LE doesn't have a jump on renner and posters because Fsamily are obviously not holding all the cards they think they are. I am sure there is information and or ideas/thoughts that might be worth thinking about or exploring. Are you saying the family holds all the answers? So why bother on Topix if all is known by the family?
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I read your post again and I must say your comment about the family being 7 years ahead of Renner is ignorant. You are assuming that the family knows all and that not onl;y that renner is behind the 8 ball but so is everyone else that is posting because they are not family. This is the underlying problem in why locals etc feel slighted. I guess you don't need anyone's help because you have the knowledge? Family members know what the answer is? Is that what snowy is saying?
here's what i was composing while you simultaneously answered me....
and, no, i don't have any info or answers. here's what i just wrote, and i actually used the same language as you about LE holding all the cards.
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i agree that her family may not have fully known about her private life. certainly, many simple, factual questions about M remain unanswered by her family on these forums over many years. presumably, her family has been scrupulously honest with LE about M's past in order to assist them with the official investigation....and well before the strained relationship came to exist between FM and LE.

unless i am naive, i believe LE holds all the cards. they have had every opportunity to interview Maura's friends right from day one and going forward. i'd be surprised if someone would squeal new info to renner that doesn't already exist on LE's radar.

question -does renner have some professional obligation to first run info he discovers by LE before reporting it to the public on his blog? is there a moral obligation to do so? at what point does his investigation overlap with theirs?
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Hmm, I'm understanding it in a different way. I take it that she was saying the LE is 7 years ahead of Renner, not family. Instead of you assuming what she meant why don't you ask her how she meant it before jumping all over her.
yes, Wowzer, that's what i meant. i tend to be wordy...so the message can get lost.
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Le isn't the all end all, there are obviously people that know something that might not have been interviewed or willing to come forward such as the the couple from the condo Bartlet etc so to say the Le is all over it sort of speak , I would not be so sure that things work that way

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what I am reading is that LE has a 7 year jump on renner because they they have a connection to the family etc and I am saying that the LE doesn't have a jump on renner and posters because Fsamily are obviously not holding all the cards they think they are. I am sure there is information and or ideas/thoughts that might be worth thinking about or exploring. Are you saying the family holds all the answers? So why bother on Topix if all is known by the family?
As far as I know Renner has just recently begun his questioning and investgation on Maura's disappearance. LE however has had 7 years to investigate the case. Renner is going over old news which LE and most that have been here for awhile are already aware of. We have no idea how much information LE has. So wouldn't you agree that LE has had much more time to familiarize themselves with the case than Renner has had?
I'm not knocking Renner in any way. I'm watching and hoping he keeps digging until he finds out what happened to her.
And no, I never said the family holds all the answers. At least I sure hope they don't. Maybe you should read people's replies several times befor commenting on them because you are misunderstanding what posters are saying. JMHO
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here's what i was composing while you simultaneously answered me....
and, no, i don't have any info or answers. here's what i just wrote, and i actually used the same language as you about LE holding all the cards.
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i agree that her family may not have fully known about her private life. certainly, many simple, factual questions about M remain unanswered by her family on these forums over many years. presumably, her family has been scrupulously honest with LE about M's past in order to assist them with the official investigation....and well before the strained relationship came to exist between FM and LE.
unless i am naive, i believe LE holds all the cards. they have had every opportunity to interview Maura's friends right from day one and going forward. i'd be surprised if someone would squeal new info to renner that doesn't already exist on LE's radar.
question -does renner have some professional obligation to first run info he discovers by LE before reporting it to the public on his blog? is there a moral obligation to do so? at what point does his investigation overlap with theirs?
I see a little more clearly what you are saying now snowy. I look at things like like this, I think renner might look at things a little more objectively and the Le might already have some or most info, but not all rocks have been turned over because of lack of man power.
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jwb wrote:
Le isn't the all end all, there are obviously people that know something that might not have been interviewed or willing to come forward such as the the couple from the condo Bartlet etc so to say the Le is all over it sort of speak , I would not be so sure that things work that way
Did NHLE interview Hossein Baghdadi ? Did they learn from Baghdadi that Maura said "I would like to disappear?" I doubt it. Ditto MA LE and UMA LE. Renner is breaking new ground. LE is overextended, overworked and underpaid, they can't do everything. They have a zillion other cases.

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Le isn't the all end all, there are obviously people that know something that might not have been interviewed or willing to come forward such as the the couple from the condo Bartlet etc so to say the Le is all over it sort of speak , I would not be so sure that things work that way
You should go back and read from the beginning. The person that rents the condo has been spoken too. Nothing came of it though.
It was quite some time ago so I don't remember all the details.
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As far as I know Renner has just recently begun his questioning and investgation on Maura's disappearance. LE however has had 7 years to investigate the case. Renner is going over old news which LE and most that have been here for awhile are already aware of. We have no idea how much information LE has. So wouldn't you agree that LE has had much more time to familiarize themselves with the case than Renner has had?
I'm not knocking Renner in any way. I'm watching and hoping he keeps digging until he finds out what happened to her.
And no, I never said the family holds all the answers. At least I sure hope they don't. Maybe you should read people's replies several times befor commenting on them because you are

misunderstanding what posters are saying. JMHO
I don't remember talking to wowzer and maybe he should shut his trap and let him communicate to snowy who he addressed in the first place. You might want to go back and re read the post because i wasn't talking to you
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Wowzer you areo concerned to prove everyone wrong than stick to the topic. Wowzer let snowy talk for herself
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I am typing in the dark so sorry for typos. NH elec is expensive lol
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waiting for snowy to respond not wowzer. I am not trying to prove a point like most ,but looking to have a give and take communication.

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I don't remember talking to wowzer and maybe he should shut his trap and let him communicate to snowy who he addressed in the first place. You might want to go back and re read the post because i wasn't talking to you
You are posting on a public forum. Anyone can answer any reply.
My you are a nasty person
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wowzer, I welcome all communication with you but please don't act like you are better than everyone else and you need to talk on behalf of others. I think they have a voice and can speak for themselves.
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You are posting on a public forum. Anyone can answer any reply.
My you are a nasty person
explain?
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please don't speak for me wowser !! I guess you speak for others I post to?

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Wowzer you areo concerned to prove everyone wrong than stick to the topic. Wowzer let snowy talk for herself
I don't have to prove anyone wrong.They usually do it themselves.
Not answering for snowy but trying to help someone before they made more of a fool out of themselves by misunderstanding IMO what they were reading.
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Wowser you have been caught in the corner and all you can do is lash back. Lame! how about honest communication and yea lets talk about Maura because that is the forum. All you can do is call me nasty?
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I see a little more clearly what you are saying now snowy. I look at things like like this, I think renner might look at things a little more objectively and the Le might already have some or most info, but not all rocks have been turned over because of lack of man power.
i agree that perhaps all the rocks haven't been turned over.
like Wowzer, i don't have an opinion for or against renner, and hope he has some success in places where others have not.
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I don't have to prove anyone wrong.They usually do it themselves.
Not answering for snowy but trying to help someone before they made more of a fool out of themselves by misunderstanding IMO what they were reading.
thanx for your help. i sometimes, though not too often, need it. lol

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