Bumping for Maura
Eskilstuna, Sweden
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aftermath wrote: <quoted text> I believe her father had at one time mentioned he had told Maura about placing a rag in the exhaust to disable the vehicle (to prevent theft). If the doors were locked it would appear she had planned to return to the car at some point. Why else lock the doors and place a rag in the exhaust? If she did not care about the car and its contents, she would have not disabled the car and locked the doors. The same holds true for her telling professors and supervisors she would be away for a few days. If she had NOT planned to return to the university, why bother to tell anyone anything about her departure? She took textbooks for what purpose other than to study. Why bother studying if no plan to return to classes? Why the part about a death in the family? Even though the family indicated there was no death, maybe someone close to Maura, someone she considered like a family member DID die. If we believe the report of her crying episode a few days earlier,those tears were in response to something stressful. The episode may have been associated with some sense of loss, possibly a death or maybe not. What happened to Maura the evening of February 9, and her decision to drive north into NH appear to be two separate issues. Consider the cases of Louise Chaput (2001 at Pinkham Notch)found dead, multiple stab wounds; Pamela Webb (1989 in wooded area off Rte 3 in Franconia)skeletal remains found, homicidal violence of unspecified nature. This is why what a person plans for the day and how they end up, need to be considered as two separate issues. A person may follow an intended plan but does not necessarily anticipate being the victim of foul play. aftermath, I appreciate your well-considered post above, in particular what you are saying about Maura´s plans/intentions when driving north from Amherst,MA, to NH and what actually happened to her after her accident on Rte 112 in Swiftwater,NH. As you rightly point out, there may well be no direct correlation whatsoever between Maura´s original plans and whatever befell her after her car-crash. I feel increasingly inclined to put less importance on Maura´s original intentions in leaving Amherst,MA, versus the huge question-mark of her subsequent vanishing.
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Since: Nov 08
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aftermath wrote: <quoted text> I believe her father had at one time mentioned he had told Maura about placing a rag in the exhaust to disable the vehicle (to prevent theft). Wow! So much of this paragraph is wrong. I'll just talk about this sentence though. That is not why Maura's father supposedly told her to do that and besides, it will not disable a vehicle. Try it yourself. So again, go back and read all the available material. This has been covered repeatedly. Gotta love people that just like to wax poetic. Not really an investigation, more like a hootenanny, without any of the rhythm or common sense. Bill
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jwb
Portland, ME
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No since in even responding to Biill. Here is Bills own agenda in his own words from 2010. I followed Bills rules and went back and did some reading and his stick was the same right from the beginning. I didn't find any posts by Bill That wasn't attacking someone. WTH agenda I wonder who this is that seems to know so much, after 3 days? Unlike some of us here for 6 years. Results? Who said anyone will generate results? I just hope to keep some of the nitwits from blaming locals for something that a young woman initiated by running from her car after an accident after drinking while driving. In memory of SBD Bill
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jwb
Portland, ME
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I wonder where Bill Gets the Fact that she ran away from her car. I hope it is not an opinion. We can't stand for that!
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jwb
Portland, ME
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The other thing that Bill gives away is that he must be a local to Haverhill area or he wouldn't have an agenda of protecting the locals. anyway enough of Bill he doesn't deserve anymore attention. Time to re focus on the issue at hand and ignore Bill.
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hannah_b
Sweden
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jwb the real original one wrote: hopefully some better discussions in the days to come. I would like to have more talk about Mathew That posted about finding duct tape with hair about 7 miles from the scene. He said he brought LE to the scene. happened in 2010 he posted from woodstock nh and he said he was hunting. Talk later goodnight all. don't be afraid to post your thoughts. The stuff this poster found was reportedly determined not to be related to Maura.
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hannah_b
Sweden
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jwb wrote: The other thing that Bill gives away is that he must be a local to Haverhill area or he wouldn't have an agenda of protecting the locals. anyway enough of Bill he doesn't deserve anymore attention. Time to re focus on the issue at hand and ignore Bill. Bill deserves lots of attention. He has been a tremendous asset to this and previous fora with his professional knowledge and intelligence. Pay attention, you may actually learn something.
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Bumping for Maura
Eskilstuna, Sweden
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hannah_b wrote: <quoted text> The stuff this poster found was reportedly determined not to be related to Maura. hannah b, While you may well be right about this, I can´t seem to recall ever having read that a possible connection to Maura has been ruled out. Do you possibly have a link or source for this statement? Thanks!
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jwb
Portland, ME
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Hannah are you sure you are not thinking about the skull?
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jwb
Portland, ME
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hannah_b wrote: <quoted text> Bill deserves lots of attention. He has been a tremendous asset to this and previous fora with his professional knowledge and intelligence. Pay attention, you may actually learn something. yea just ask Bill and he'll tell you!!
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Linda
United States
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looking4amoose
Woonsocket, RI
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aftermath wrote: <quoted text> I totally, whole-heartedly agree. Like many she respected the uniform. Taking into consideration the time factors that night, the dog a day or two later losing her scent at the intersection, etc.... I believe that a car door may have opened AT the intersection and Maura saw the uniform. She believed as I would that she had every reason to feel safe. Five to ten minutes later the local, Haverhill PD officer would arrive only to discover Maura was no longer in the area. The #'s (or lack thereof) of available LE in the area simply don't allow one to pick her up haphazardly....
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mauracomehome
Vineyard Haven, MA
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Back to the car being locked...Its possible to accidently hit the driver side power door lock getting out,hastily or not.In my car this locks all 4 doors.So the doors being locked really tells us nothing. You have to wonder why WTH trys to drive people away&maybe he should solve this?
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jwb wrote: I wonder where Bill Gets the Fact that she ran away from her car. I hope it is not an opinion. We can't stand for that! An opinion? Yea an opinion or a judicious use of logic. Seen it hundreds of times. She was at the car, witnesses saw her. Then she wasn't there and no one saw anyone else. So yes, she left the area. Unless......wait, unless it was one of the pesky UFOs we keep hearing about?? Bill
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jwb wrote: The other thing that Bill gives away is that he must be a local to Haverhill area or he wouldn't have an agenda of protecting the locals. Yep. With deductive ability like that. You are certain to solve this in no time. Everyone relax. jwb is on the case. She'll have it figured out in no time. Bill
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mauracomehome
Vineyard Haven, MA
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jwb the real original one wrote: she would accept a ride if it was someone she knew or if it was someone that could be trusted. Police,fire, fish and game emt etc..If she were picked up by a trusted person (police etc...), one would assume they would have a scanner (radio) in their vehicle in order to get to the scene in such a short window of opportunity. My guess is that the vehicle would have parked on BH road based on the scent the dogs picked up. The problem with this case is that with so little information released to the public almost any scenario can't be ruled out 100%. My Gut tells me that the NSP knows what happened to Maura but just don't have enough to prosecute yet. Similiar to the new case in Aruba. I think you've hit the nail on the head here.Just a thought:did the red truck have a scanner&uniformed driver?Any local responders possibly maintain Ma. plates?
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Bumping for Maura
Eskilstuna, Sweden
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looking4amoose wrote: <quoted text>The #'s (or lack thereof) of available LE in the area simply don't allow one to pick her up haphazardly.... looking4amoose, We are not talking Haverhill PD here, but possibly - just possibly as one of a multitude of different theories - that dreaded word "state trooper", one of those apparently being pretty much right there at the time of Maura´s accident, but whose movements is by all accounts shrouded in huge questions marks.
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mauracomehome
Vineyard Haven, MA
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Speaking of State Troopers or red trucks..Has any one ascertained WHICH State trooper was driving around willy nilly that night?was he looking for the car/girl he had rammed off the road in accident #1.I.E Hero/Abductor..Just thinking out loud again.Just another possibilty.
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jwb
Portland, ME
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WTH-the-original wrote: <quoted text> An opinion? Yea an opinion or a judicious use of logic. Seen it hundreds of times. She was at the car, witnesses saw her. Then she wasn't there and no one saw anyone else. So yes, she left the area. Unless......wait, unless it was one of the pesky UFOs we keep hearing about?? Bill you say she ran from the car. Are you saying it is impossible that someone picked her up?
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mauracomehome
Vineyard Haven, MA
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As a women alone,especially in a desolate area(yes,Ive been out there in daylight&didnt like it),If I were scared,with no cell reception&big men stopping,I would have trusted a uniformed professionals help,drunk or not(now,after some of the things Ive read,Mckay,Maura et al,I wouldnt).of course this is only 1 of a handful of scenerios.
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