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jwb
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Mauracomehome wrote: <quoted text>
ummmmmm...So what do you suggest people discuss here at the Maura Murray forum?....This is why I lurk. how about renners new post Scarinza continued that train of thought: "My sense is that she might have gotten a ride. But we don't know her ultimate destination. It's interesting that her backpack was missing from her car. That some liquor was missing. Until we know for sure what happened, we're going to treat this case as if she was a victim of a crime."
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Snowy
Gloucester, MA
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Mauracomehome wrote: <quoted text>
ummmmmm...So what do you suggest people discuss here at the Maura Murray forum?....This is why I lurk. sit tight...don't swirl and spin...trust that the truth will reveal itself. all of the flailing, screaming, and hysterical accusations haven't been successful in solving the mystery or hastening resolution. be rational.
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aftermath
Gouverneur, NY
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Mauracomehome wrote: <quoted text>
If your not speculating,you seem certain of your knowledge,why dont you contact Renner? Mauracomehome, I am considering doing just that. It cannot hurt and can only help. It seems that I may have found a connection between fall of 2000 and Feb 5, 2004. The connection is a city in nys, for fall of 2000 and Feb 5, 2004. While this will not explain what happened to Maura, it may shed some light on the mystery in her life.
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Snowy
Gloucester, MA
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jwb wrote: snowy - your last post was reasonable accept your insult again at the end "it's like nails on a chalkboard to more logical minds." You imply that you are the only logical one and because someone has a different view they are not logical. why do you feel the need to beat people down? one loses patience after observing over many years the same people asking the same questions and providing the same answers on a daily basis, without ever achieving an iota of resolution, chiefly because so few facts are available. the endless repetition and redundancy is exceptionally frustrating. even worse, the pieces of information used to construct these ideas are often based on misinformation. there are few reliable sources of information; Renner's access to Scarinza is a plus. this thought progression is not founded on beating people down, nor is it intended to be a personal attack. it is simply the way i think. after running through any number of fictional accounts over many years, it only makes sense to me to stick with facts. actually, sticking with facts has been my battle cry from day one. we agree with some, and disagree with others. it can be rather exhausting, don't you think? i am going to peel an orange now.
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Mauracomehome
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jwb wrote: <quoted text>
how about renners new post
Scarinza continued that train of thought: "My sense is that she might have gotten a ride. But we don't know her ultimate destination. It's interesting that her backpack was missing from her car. That some liquor was missing. Until we know for sure what happened, we're going to treat this case as if she was a victim of a crime." The backpack&liquor are not defineately missing from the car.The backpak and liquor may have never made it into the car.No one saw her place it in there.
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mcsmom wrote: <quoted text>
I know some years Saturns had a recovery hook on the pasenger side in the rear. I am aware of that. Do you think that is how the Saturn was towed? It is a recovery hook, not a towing hook. The question is, how was the Saturn towed by strap. I mean if Det C is going to throw that turd out there, don't you think that should be an answerable question? Kind of like the tow hitch. Bill
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WTH-the-original wrote: <quoted text>
I am aware of that. Do you think that is how the Saturn was towed? It is a recovery hook, not a towing hook. The question is, how was the Saturn towed by strap.
I mean if Det C is going to throw that turd out there, don't you think that should be an answerable question? Kind of like the tow hitch.
Bill Can't it be towed backwards? Sorry, I don't know jack about towing Maybe thats the reason for the rag in the tailpipe.:)
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Mauracomehome wrote: <quoted text>If you can offer anything new,why dont you?If in fact you find this all such a bore "nothing new here,move along" Why do you stay? Great questions. Let me help. THERE IS NOTHING NEW IN THIS CASE! That is why it hasn't been solved. It is a bore and I only stay to keep the unicorn riders from rewriting the entire case online. Now, here is the better question. Why is it after eight years, YOU think you and the other newcomers are so much smarter that all the people that have come before you. I mean after looking at the case for what, one month. You think that you will solve this case because what? All those that came before you were idiots? All the cops, all the detectives (the real ones), all the amateur sleuths here since the beginning were all morons? It's pretty arrogant of you and the others to think that you must be that much smarter than all those others who came before you. Seriously, with all the eyes that have looked at this case from the start, including the professionals. Do you really think that you are the one to break this case wide open? Are you that good? Do you have an established track record that would allow me to think that you are better than everyone else involved? I am supposed to take you and the others seriously??? Bill
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mcsmom wrote: <quoted text>
Can't it be towed backwards? Sorry, I don't know jack about towing
Maybe thats the reason for the rag in the tailpipe.:) That would be virtually impossible. First the recovery hook is usually located on a far corner of the vehicle causing serious yaw when being pulled and the more interesting problem is driving the car backwards while steering. Not to mention the stares you would get. Anyone seeing that would not forget it. Is it possible? Short answer, as we use to say is not no but hell no. Bill
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Snowy
Gloucester, MA
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WTH-the-original wrote: <quoted text>
Great questions. Let me help. THERE IS NOTHING NEW IN THIS CASE! That is why it hasn't been solved. It is a bore and I only stay to keep the unicorn riders from rewriting the entire case online.
Now, here is the better question. Why is it after eight years, YOU think you and the other newcomers are so much smarter that all the people that have come before you. I mean after looking at the case for what, one month. You think that you will solve this case because what? All those that came before you were idiots? All the cops, all the detectives (the real ones), all the amateur sleuths here since the beginning were all morons? It's pretty arrogant of you and the others to think that you must be that much smarter than all those others who came before you. Seriously, with all the eyes that have looked at this case from the start, including the professionals. Do you really think that you are the one to break this case wide open? Are you that good? Do you have an established track record that would allow me to think that you are better than everyone else involved? I am supposed to take you and the others seriously???
Bill well stated, WTH/Bill. imo, the best dignity afforded to MM is honesty, truth, reality and compassion afforded by patient waiting and not forcing a false conclusion where there is none.
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NHwoodsman52
Weare, NH
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Det Columbo wrote: <quoted text>
Where did Renner get his info? Was that info from the Acc. Reconstructionist? Was it from LE? Was it from Personal observation and if so what are his qualifications to verify this info. Was it from Mike lavoie? NHSP
I am just asking because it was PROVEN by Professional Acc. Recon. that the damage WAS NOT CONSISTENT with hitting a snowbank. This is a fact.
It is tough to drive a car with THE AIRBAGS DEPLOYED....Just Saying. It can be done w/ caution....but in haste or panic...Ooooops. Not to create an argument, but Accident reconstruction isn't an exact science and opinion sometimes carries the day. Cars can do some funny things, also driver input from an accident report or actual interview has to be considered in a ACC and that was missing. I have also seen similar damage in deer/vehicle collisions but I would assume someone would have seen hair, blood isn't always present in these collisions and deer often run off sometimes long distances before expiring. In saying that I am a believer the accident did happen there, I think due to one or all of these factors alcohol, perhaps fatigue, driver inattention, and road conditions, as a result Maura lost control. Not all ACC investigators or teams are created equal due to training, experience and just plain integrity AKA effort. Perhaps the best effort was given but they were still lacking an important component, the driver.
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NHwoodsman52
Weare, NH
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jwb wrote: <quoted text>
I think Maura saying there was a death in the family, justified in her mind the crying episode she had prior, and made that go away. If she just said that someone was sick, it wouldn't of had the same effect. The irony of this is, it seems an ominous statement, there may have been a death, HER OWN!! Makes me wonder a little more about her state of mind, but still I don't feel suicide was her plan though it may have crossed her mind before leaving Amherst and may have been a stronger thought after the Swiftwater accident.
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NHwoodsman52
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Det Columbo wrote: I guess it is time to change My disguise again. We got you, I looked up the Littleton directory and there's no Peter Faulk listed, but oddly there is a Tom Selleck, only kidding. I do frequent the Forest area and have a few relatives and friends in the area.
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Snowy
Gloucester, MA
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NHwoodsman52 wrote: <quoted text>
The irony of this is, it seems an ominous statement, there may have been a death, HER OWN!!
Makes me wonder a little more about her state of mind, but still I don't feel suicide was her plan though it may have crossed her mind before leaving Amherst and may have been a stronger thought after the Swiftwater accident. wow! brilliant thinking! indeed, IF she felt suicidal due to upsetting circumstances, even if the emotion was in passing, it might have coincided with offering the excuse of a "death in the family".
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NHwoodsman52
Weare, NH
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jwb wrote: so snowey, you specify four groups of people on topix
1) Regulars
2) First Timers
3) Newcomers
4) Ducks
which group do consider yourself part of? The forum kind of reminds me of Vanilla Sky when Kurt Russell was portraying a shrink and asks the question along the line of " I am real, aren't I? " I am sure there are a few who use multiple names to reenforce their own statements or to be obstinate. The world is full of those who get their daily thrill from pushing buttons and waiting for a reaction. Every circus has clowns and the forum is no exception.
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Snowy
Gloucester, MA
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NHwoodsman52 wrote: <quoted text>
The forum kind of reminds me of Vanilla Sky when Kurt Russell was portraying a shrink and asks the question along the line of " I am real, aren't I? " I am sure there are a few who use multiple names to reenforce their own statements or to be obstinate. The world is full of those who get their daily thrill from pushing buttons and waiting for a reaction. Every circus has clowns and the forum is no exception. really? you suspect ME of using multiple monikers? you're dead wrong.
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NHwoodsman52
Weare, NH
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Sometimes I wonder if there should be two Maura Murray forums, one for why she left and the other pertaining to what happened at the accident scene and after. Due to my own theory I don't think there's a strong connection leading to the end result of Maura's falling off the face of the earth. If she was meeting someone for a relationship from Amherst, driving all the way to NH doesn't seem likely. If she's meeting someone in the area that's married, its a high risk for a local because its hard for a person and their vehicle to go unnoticed in small town northern NH. If Maura had contact with someone in Northern NH and was trying to hide it she did a good job. My problem is if she was having an affair or cheating, why call a Condo that her family stayed at for years. Maura would have been smart enough to realize her family would eventually find out, as well as possibly the other persons family.
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NHwoodsman52
Weare, NH
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Snowy wrote: <quoted text>
really? you suspect ME of using multiple monikers? you're dead wrong. Wasn't referring to you Snowy, just a general reference.
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NHwoodsman52 wrote: Sometimes I wonder if there should be two Maura Murray forums, one for why she left and the other pertaining to what happened at the accident scene and after. Due to my own theory I don't think there's a strong connection leading to the end result of Maura's falling off the face of the earth.
If she was meeting someone for a relationship from Amherst, driving all the way to NH doesn't seem likely. If she's meeting someone in the area that's married, its a high risk for a local because its hard for a person and their vehicle to go unnoticed in small town northern NH.
If Maura had contact with someone in Northern NH and was trying to hide it she did a good job. My problem is if she was having an affair or cheating, why call a Condo that her family stayed at for years.
Maura would have been smart enough to realize her family would eventually find out, as well as possibly the other persons family. Brilliant idea! "Who Abducted Maura Murray" would work for me. If you support "Into the Wild" you can quarterback that theory. That way everyone else can go back to playing Angry Birds on their iPads.
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NHwoodsman52
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hannah_b wrote: <quoted text>
Snowy, do you think SBD killed her? Or was it the state trooper?(wink, wink) Hannah; you must be tired, you missed the conspiracy theory, SBD, State Trooper and the Red Truck all conspired. I never did like red trucks, nasty SOB's. Just trying to lighten things up, I think its easy for all of us who have been here for a longtime to become passionate in our beliefs. Damn we're almost like a family now, WAIT that explains the bickering perfectly!!! I was posting as NHwoodshome and then lost my password. I have a book with passwords and when I get lazy instead of editing my hardcopy I use little yellow post it notes. The damn thing fell out and I must have thrown it away. Then I finally figured out my old password for NHwoodshome but now the stupid automatic login is on NHwoodsman52 so I'm sticking to that for now but we are one and the same, I think lol?
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