Maura Murray

citigirl wrote:

<quoted text>the history is that some have complained as to what other posters have said about NH people in the past. And when one comes on and posts positive experiences they have had with the people from NH they complain about that.

Sitting here in my bib coveralls, with a piece of straw in my teeth sipping the latest batch of moonshine peeing in a papercup because its too cold to go to the outhouse feeling hurt.

Yeah, we were insulted but we consider the source -;) what cracks me up is MANY of today's NH residents are formerly from or have family roots in Mass!

NHwoodsman52 wrote:

Sometimes I wonder if there should be two Maura Murray forums, one for why she left and the other pertaining to what happened at the accident scene and after. Due to my own theory I don't think there's a strong connection leading to the end result of Maura's falling off the face of the earth.
If she was meeting someone for a relationship from Amherst, driving all the way to NH doesn't seem likely. If she's meeting someone in the area that's married, its a high risk for a local because its hard for a person and their vehicle to go unnoticed in small town northern NH.
If Maura had contact with someone in Northern NH and was trying to hide it she did a good job. My problem is if she was having an affair or cheating, why call a Condo that her family stayed at for years.
Maura would have been smart enough to realize her family would eventually find out, as well as possibly the other persons family.

just a general comment...thoughts blowing in the wind.
highly motivated people manage to do what they need to do, and they can be fearless in carrying out new relationships. someone married might easily take the risk of being together, even in his/her own community. the options could even include camping out with a below zero tent and gear, if she/they owned any.
she really didn't have the financial means to stay in a condo, unless someone else was paying for it; one night in a motel + food + gas would even have strained her resources.
taking off in a car in poor condition was a risk in itself.
the motivation for her leaving for a pleasure trip or running away from someone or something is simply unknown. the email about Billy and the crying episode wouldn't seem to point in the direction of a planned, fun getaway.
more questions than answers.

Snowy wrote:

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i'm less than 80% confident that BA's identifying her was accurate, and it makes we wonder if she never drove her car to NH, or if she did, that she was or wasn't separated from her car before it was found in its final location. conclusions drawn from any of this are opinion...and opinions don't count in the official investigation.
oh....and i am not casting any smidge or iota of doubt against BA, his intentions or his credibility!
while i do many things exceptionally well, i am less visually attuned than others to focus on the minutiae when, for example, i enter a new room....i may not fully take in decorative details until the second look.
have any of you reflected on what your spouse or children wore to the office or school on a particular day? unless i make a conscious effort, it isn't in my DNA to make that mental note.

I believe it was Maura, the alcohol purchased was what Maura was know to drink, as well as she did do a search for Lodging in the area. What motive would anyone have to take Maura's car and drive it to the same area she researched for lodging and why take the car at all?
Someone would be taking a big risk of being stopped for a traffic violation or with an ill running car trailing smoke as Fred described it.
As far as SBD it was dark, he may have been tired and when you don't foresee the implications of positively identifying someone we don't take mental notes pertaining to their features. Hell there's times I look in the mirror and say IS THAT ME!!!! There you go 80%.

citigirl wrote:
<quoted text>the history is that some have complained as to what other posters have said about NH people in the past. And when one comes on and posts positive experiences they have had with the people from NH they complain about that.

you've really got that victim thing going on, and choose to provoke irritation at every turn.
HAVE YOU WRITTEN A LETTER OF THANKS TO THE COMMUNITY NEWSPAPERS TO EXPRESS YOUR APPRECIATION TO THE INDIVIDUALS YOU REFERENCE ON TOPIX? DID YOU SIGN IT?? that's the usual and normal response from "family" members following a loss or tragedy.

or do you prefer to anonymously badger the hell out of strangers?

is there a reason you need to repeat yourself....daily, weekly, monthly? when your message was processed the first time, and folks have clearly responded to your comments....and have elaborated, in detail and in the context of ongoing conversations?

here comes the whining, the pity partying, and the blah, blah, blah.

NHwoodsman52 wrote:

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Sitting here in my bib coveralls, with a piece of straw in my teeth sipping the latest batch of moonshine peeing in a papercup because its too cold to go to the outhouse feeling hurt.
Yeah, we were insulted but we consider the source -;) what cracks me up is MANY of today's NH residents are formerly from or have family roots in Mass!

ask Shack (living in MA) about "lysol-ing" the lot of you hicks from the sticks, right? she has an opinion about that.
yep. that's why some of us are here.
ditto for the SBD.
those days of fun are gone.

NHwoodsman52 wrote:

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The irony of this is, it seems an ominous statement, there may have been a death, HER OWN!!
Makes me wonder a little more about her state of mind, but still I don't feel suicide was her plan though it may have crossed her mind before leaving Amherst and may have been a stronger thought after the Swiftwater accident.

I agree that is very ironic. I have thought it through wether or not she may have been thinking suicide with the "death in the family" statement.who knows what was in her mind.

NHwoodsman52 wrote:

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The forum kind of reminds me of Vanilla Sky when Kurt Russell was portraying a shrink and asks the question along the line of " I am real, aren't I? " I am sure there are a few who use multiple names to reenforce their own statements or to be obstinate. The world is full of those who get their daily thrill from pushing buttons and waiting for a reaction. Every circus has clowns and the forum is no exception.

It was a simple question

NHwoodsman52 wrote:

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Hannah; you must be tired, you missed the conspiracy theory, SBD, State Trooper and the Red Truck all conspired. I never did like red trucks, nasty SOB's.
Just trying to lighten things up, I think its easy for all of us who have been here for a longtime to become passionate in our beliefs. Damn we're almost like a family now, WAIT that explains the bickering perfectly!!!
I was posting as NHwoodshome and then lost my password. I have a book with passwords and when I get lazy instead of editing my hardcopy I use little yellow post it notes. The damn thing fell out and I must have thrown it away. Then I finally figured out my old password for NHwoodshome but now the stupid automatic login is on NHwoodsman52 so I'm sticking to that for now but we are one and the same, I think lol?

still in the same neck of the woods. you're in.

Snowy wrote:

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ask Shack (living in MA) about "lysol-ing" the lot of you hicks from the sticks, right? she has an opinion about that.
yep. that's why some of us are here.
ditto for the SBD.
those days of fun are gone.

Is this the whining and Blah Blah you were referring to in the your last post or is this the example of repeating the same thing over and over?

NHwoodsman52 wrote:

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I believe it was Maura, the alcohol purchased was what Maura was know to drink, as well as she did do a search for Lodging in the area. What motive would anyone have to take Maura's car and drive it to the same area she researched for lodging and why take the car at all?
Someone would be taking a big risk of being stopped for a traffic violation or with an ill running car trailing smoke as Fred described it.
As far as SBD it was dark, he may have been tired and when you don't foresee the implications of positively identifying someone we don't take mental notes pertaining to their features. Hell there's times I look in the mirror and say IS THAT ME!!!! There you go 80%.

long, long ago....i, too, mentioned what is obvious, as you just have above.
it's a huge risk to drive a car in poor condition.
everyone (yes, even a 21 y/o) knows you can easily get stopped in MA, but especially in NH with MA plates for even the most minor driving infractions....like not having a functional light over the tag, or even for using high beams if a headlight is out. i wonder if her MA inspection was even up to date?

hannah_b wrote:

Frostman, I didn´t give you that unlit lightbulb!

Until recently Ol' Frosty thought the lightbulb meant eureka moment. And that the lit lightbulb meant sheer brilliance! As for passwords... it takes at least 3 tries each time.

Det Columbo wrote:

About 4 yrs. ago My friend who owns a business in Littleton was backing his volvo wagon up at approx. 10 MPH to the dock area where He was gonna pressure wash it. Upon doing so He rammed into the wall with the rear bumper of the vehicle.
This deployed all the airbags in his car to the tune of $1400.00 replacement costs.
So....YES it can happen even at slow speeds. If being towed at approx. 20 to 30 MPH and coming into contact with the towing vehicle it is VERY POSSIBLE.
Once this happened at the corner Maura as well as the person towing new that had a problem. The truck driver then convinced Maura it would just be best to get out of there.
And YES a tow strap or chain could shear off the bank. I certainly wouldn't want to be in the path of either cause it would probably kill You or come close.
Think people....
Wowzer....is there only one person who owns a red truck on BH rd. 116.? I never said the truck was red in this post either. Thank You

I highly doubt that anyone towing Maura would have disconnected the chain and cleared the scene unnoticed by the people who heard the accident and looked out their windows. Also NO one in the preceding miles driven would have noticed the oddity of the car being towed, people are NOSY and I am sure someone would have seen it and reported it.

GOOD MORNING.....I'll be back.

Det Columbo wrote:

It is against the law to tow a vehicle more than One mile with a strap or chain in the state of NH.

Exactly, BUT the officer has to prove you have towed it more than a mile and many get away with much longer distances. Usually they get a warning and have to leave the car where it is and call a REAL wrecker.

NHwoodsman52 wrote:

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I highly doubt that anyone towing Maura would have disconnected the chain and cleared the scene unnoticed by the people who heard the accident and looked out their windows. Also NO one in the preceding miles driven would have noticed the oddity of the car being towed, people are NOSY and I am sure someone would have seen it and reported it.

I agree, and there wouldn't have been anyone in the car if it were being towed.

Snowy wrote:

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everyone (yes, even a 21 y/o) knows you can easily get stopped in MA, but especially in NH with MA plates for even the most minor driving infractions....

I sure that has nothing to do with the unique driving idiosyncrasies of Massachusetts-ites.

jwb wrote:

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how about renners new post
Scarinza continued that train of thought: "My sense is that she might have gotten a ride. But we don't know her ultimate destination. It's interesting that her backpack was missing from her car. That some liquor was missing. Until we know for sure what happened, we're going to treat this case as if she was a victim of a crime."

I find this interesting in that IF liquor was missing and it seems Maura could drink to excess she may have had a blackout and wandered of into the woods to ONCE AGAIN perish from hypothermia. Alcohol only excels the hypothermia process as well as add to the confusion aspect of it.

NHwoodsman52 wrote:

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I find this interesting in that IF liquor was missing and it seems Maura could drink to excess she may have had a blackout and wandered of into the woods to ONCE AGAIN perish from hypothermia. Alcohol only excels the hypothermia process as well as add to the confusion aspect of it.

very possible- Renners recent post says that Kalhua was missing and only the box of wine was left behind. There was no mention of the Seagrams that was on the reciept. That was the first time I had heard about seagrams.Her friend Kate said her drink of choice was Sky Vodka and blush wine. Seagrams I believe is a whisky or do they do wine coolers? The renner post says a 6 pack of Seagrams

NHwoodsman52 wrote:

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Exactly, BUT the officer has to prove you have towed it more than a mile and many get away with much longer distances. Usually they get a warning and have to leave the car where it is and call a REAL wrecker.

excellent detail. thanx.

jwb wrote:

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very possible- Renners recent post says that Kalhua was missing and only the box of wine was left behind. There was no mention of the Seagrams that was on the reciept. That was the first time I had heard about seagrams.Her friend Kate said her drink of choice was Sky Vodka and blush wine. Seagrams I believe is a whisky or do they do wine coolers? The renner post says a 6 pack of Seagrams

must be coolers. i noticed that, too.