Maura Murray

Thanks JWB! So I take from that: The secret suitor is the ambitious young man is the team coach is the spring/summer 2003 romance is HB on Renner's blogs. At least we know they're one in the same person now. Such ostensible hoopla, or so it might seem.

**speculation** HB might a nice person to run to if you're on the outs with your long distance beau. I might be tempted to take a few days to mull this over up in the mountains alone to do some soul searching.

(Poor man. Let's hope a surreptitious Twitter link doesn't try to place him on the the No Fly List next week.) Comment retracted.

It still is possible that there was someone else in her life but hasn't been identified as of yet

There also is the mysterious phone call Murray received while working as a security person at a residence hall at the UMass Amherst campus Feb. 5.
The call reportedly reduced Murray to tears and her supervisor had to take her home because she was so distraught.
UMass Detective Davies said his department has been able to track the phone call.
"We know the location," Davies said. "We have not been able to identify to whom she was speaking. Her friends have no idea who called her."
She said Murray had called Bill Feb. 8 and was crying because of the previous Saturday accident, though he didn't feel that was it.
"He told her on a scale of 1 to 10, it was only a 3 or 4," she said. "He had to talk to her a long time to calm her down. We are convinced something happened at school and her Amherst friends know."
Rausch said Duke University Blue Devils basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski and his family have pledged an unspecified amount of money to the reward fund.
Krzyzewski met Murray and Bill Rausch around Thanksgiving time and provided them with basketball tickets during the Christmas holiday basketball tourney.
For Kathleen Murray, the book is unnerving because it talks about the rural region of northern New Hampshire where Murray was last seen.
(The book : Not without peril), My father gave it to her. I don't know what it could mean,'' the Hanover resident said.
I know she was up here on her own will, but something altered her plans along the way and it could've been foul play. Nothing else makes sense,'' said Fred Murray of Hanson, Maura's brother.
Bus driver Butch Atwood was coming around the bend in his school bus after dropping off a group of skiers who had been in North Conway for the day. He stopped, offered Murray help, and kept going when she said she had called AAA. Atwood parked the bus at his home, about 100 yards up Route 112, walked inside and told his wife Barbara what happened.
Another neighbor called police, who arrived within minutes. They found the bag, some bottles of alcohol, and that was it.
Matteson said.my opinion, it's a numbers game. On a Monday at 7 at night, maybe three cars went by here, at best. What are the odds that one is a predator?'' he said.
Investigators have determined the origin of an unusual telephone call that Murray received a few nights before she fled the University of Massachusetts at Amherst. The conversation upset her so much that she had to be escorted from her job to her dorm room.
The call, according to UMass police Lieutenant Robert Thrasher, came from one of Murray's two sisters. But Thrasher said police have yet to receive an explanation of what was so upsetting.
Yesterday, Fred Murray, the girls' father, said he was told that Maura's sister called her to talk about a "monstrous" fight with a boyfriend. "But I don't think that would upset her all that much," Murray said. note: Maura called Kathleen at the Carpenter residence.
The more details are revealed, the more baffling the case becomes, police acknowledge. Yesterday, Thrasher said that Maura had fastidiously packed all her belongings into boxes before she left school, even removing the art from her dorm room walls. Meanwhile, one UMass friend has seemingly withheld information from police, saying she didn't want to get Maura "in trouble."
At 3:40 p.m. Monday, she withdrew $280 from an area ATM, then stopped at a liquor store. Surveillance cameras at the bank machine and in the store show that she was alone.
Murray, who is 5 feet 7 inches tall, weighs about 120 pounds and has brown hair and blue eyes, was last seen on the UMass campus between 4 and 4:30 p.m. Feb. 9.
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If Maura Murray is alive and well, she ought to know that hearts are broken. She should know that no mistake is insurmountable. People forgive. Time and attention heal feelings and wounds.
Packed Up Her Dorm Room
UMass Police Department Detective Brian Davies said Murray had packed up all her belongings in her dorm room and appeared to be moving out and not returning.
Police are also investigating a message on Maura's phone from a friend she talked to the day before she disappeared.
Butch Atwood, the last witness to see her, has been questioned several times by police. Worried that he should have helped more, he told me outside his cabin this week, "I have some sleepless nights now."
Family members and friends are upset because police did not issue a press release seeking people's help in locating Murray until two days after the accident.
They also are upset because a thorough search of the area wasn't conducted until two days after the accident.

jwb wrote:

found this on web site
Visionandpsychosis.net maura was featured on it
Missing College Students and Student Suicides

this has been on the net for some time. to be polite, it is reaching, reaching, reaching beyond the grasp of reality.
WTH/Bill has unicorn story he can sell you, and i could conjure up some story about a cat and a coyote and their relationship to MM's disappearance....and that might waste less space than the subliminal distraction trash.

hannah_b wrote:

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Robert M.S. McDonald (born 1970?) is an associate professor of history at the United States Military Academy and an adjunct scholar of the Cato Institute. He lives in Cornwall-on-Hudson, NY, with his wife and children. Previous resident of Fort Montgomery, NY. He could very well be the New City caller Maura frequently contacted in the days leading up to her disappearance. Love interest?

hannah_b,
No, but getting close.

Frostman wrote:

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If you Google around you'll find her on a "Justice for Chandra" (Chandra Levy) website as early as September, 2002 as she claimed to have a vision about Chandra. It appears she became wrapped up in MM's case and was a prolific contributor on several sites. I didn't see where she purported to be a relative.

well, she's related as a Murry/Dwyer

Not a professor.

If Maura Murray is alive and well, she ought to know that hearts are broken. She should know that no mistake is insurmountable. People forgive. Time and attention heal feelings and wounds.
Packed Up Her Dorm Room
UMass Police Department Detective Brian Davies said Murray had packed up all her belongings in her dorm room and appeared to be moving out and not returning.
Police are also investigating a message on Maura's phone from a friend she talked to the day before she disappeared.
Butch Atwood, the last witness to see her, has been questioned several times by police. Worried that he should have helped more, he told me outside his cabin this week, "I have some sleepless nights now."
Family members and friends are upset because police did not issue a press release seeking people's help in locating Murray until two days after the accident.
They also are upset because a thorough search of the area wasn't conducted until two days after the accident.
There also is the mysterious phone call Murray received while working as a security person at a residence hall at the UMass Amherst campus Feb. 5.
The call reportedly reduced Murray to tears and her supervisor had to take her home because she was so distraught.
UMass Detective Davies said his department has been able to track the phone call.
"We know the location," Davies said. "We have not been able to identify to whom she was speaking. Her friends have no idea who called her."

Theory of crying episode:

It is possible that mauras sisters phone call was about her sisters relationship problems and that caused Maura to start thinking about BR. Renner Blogged about BR being a cheater. Maybe this is what brought her to tears and hence the email letter on the box regarding BR cheating. Maura had to get away to clear her head. Maybe the death in the family was
her acknowledging that she was going to leave BR.

The cheating , car accident and school pushed her over the edge.

She said Murray had called Bill Feb. 8 and was crying because of the previous Saturday accident, though he didn't feel that was it.

"He told her on a scale of 1 to 10, it was only a 3 or 4," she said. "He had to talk to her a long time to calm her down. We are convinced something happened at school and her Amherst friends know."

Rausch said Duke University Blue Devils basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski and his family have pledged an unspecified amount of money to the reward fund.

Krzyzewski met Murray and Bill Rausch around Thanksgiving time and provided them with basketball tickets during the Christmas holiday basketball tourney.

For Kathleen Murray, the book is unnerving because it talks about the rural region of northern New Hampshire where Murray was last seen.

‘ââMy father gave it to her. I don't know what it could mean,'' the Hanover resident said.

I know she was up here on her own will, but something altered her plans along the way and it could've been foul play. Nothing else makes sense,'' said Fred Murray of Hanson, Maura's brother.

Bus driver Butch Atwood was coming around the bend in his school bus after dropping off a group of skiers who had been in North Conway for the day. He stopped, offered Murray help, and kept going when she said she had called AAA. Atwood parked the bus at his home, about 100 yards up Route 112, walked inside and told his wife Barbara what happened.

Another neighbor called police, who arrived within minutes. They found the bag, some bottles of alcohol, and that was it.

Matteson said.my opinion, it's a numbers game. On a Monday at 7 at night, maybe three cars went by here, at best. What are the odds that one is a predator?'' he said.

Investigators have determined the origin of an unusual telephone call that Murray received a few nights before she fled the University of Massachusetts at Amherst. The conversation upset her so much that she had to be escorted from her job to her dorm room.

The call, according to UMass police Lieutenant Robert Thrasher, came from one of Murray's two sisters. But Thrasher said police have yet to receive an explanation of what was so upsetting.

Yesterday, Fred Murray, the girls' father, said he was told that Maura's sister called her to talk about a "monstrous" fight with a boyfriend. "But I don't think that would upset her all that much," Murray said. note: Maura called Kathleen at the Carpenter residence.

The more details are revealed, the more baffling the case becomes, police acknowledge. Yesterday, Thrasher said that Maura had fastidiously packed all her belongings into boxes before she left school, even removing the art from her dorm room walls. Meanwhile, one UMass friend has seemingly withheld information from police, saying she didn't want to get Maura "in trouble."

At 3:40 p.m. Monday, she withdrew $280 from an area ATM, then stopped at a liquor store. Surveillance cameras at the bank machine and in the store show that she was alone.

Murray, who is 5 feet 7 inches tall, weighs about 120 pounds and has brown hair and blue eyes, was last seen on the UMass campus between 4 and 4:30 p.m. Feb. 9.

Snowy wrote:

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this has been on the net for some time. to be polite, it is reaching, reaching, reaching beyond the grasp of reality.
WTH/Bill has unicorn story he can sell you, and i could conjure up some story about a cat and a coyote and their relationship to MM's disappearance....and that might waste less space than the subliminal distraction trash.

you don't have to read it

jwb wrote:

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I just dropped Mr renner another line to ask about the ambitious suitor. I thought it was the track coach but maybe there is another because she was already done with him.

jwb,
Not a professor, not a track coach, but getting close.

jwb wrote:

It still is possible that there was someone else in her life but hasn't been identified as of yet

Well, someone else WAS in her life as near and close as the spring/early summer of 2003. The caoch she stayed with. MR Renner was also able to find Maura had relations with others on the track team.

Getting back to school fall of 2003 would have been hard for Maura as she was now just seeing Billy again. "she loved him and was willing to move to Oklahoma" But even Liz said she did not know her friend as well as she thought and what went on behind closed doors.

Oh, and, hey. Sorry for the long doubled posts. I honestly couldn't tell that it was too long to post all at once and tried to send it through....too much so as it turns out.....<('-')>

IMPORTANT TID BIT BY BILLY:

"He told her on a scale of 1 to 10, it was only a 3 or 4," she said. "He had to talk to her a long time to calm her down. We are convinced something happened at school and her Amherst friends know."

And by the way, Sharon was unaware. I agree with Beagle that Sharon comes across as the real deal. But she only related that Billy and Maura had some rocky times in 2000 or 2001. She seemed clueless that Maura was seeing someone else, and maybe her son too, if they broke up again. Kathleen says they WERE fighting again.

Sorry that I barged in like this today. Just had the time is all to find and show some of the statements that we have been pondering about and/or questioning.

just me wrote:

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well, she's related as a Murry/Dwyer

Thanks just me.

On July 9, 2011 James Renner blogged:
"Helena Dwyer Murray runs a website devoted to the search for Maura. She has been identified in news reports as an aunt, but is actually not related to the family through blood. She's also one of the administrators for the Maura Murray Missing Group on Facebook."

I guess that's where my 'info" came from.

Snowy wrote:

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and did she not have <distant> relatives in Canada? Nova Scotia? anyone know with certainty?

I do. Peri, a murray/dwyer email and spoke with her once.

It was more than just the name, MM, working at a franchise fitness business in Toronto.... in their ad at top of website page there was a photo of several people engaging in exercise routine and one looked very much like Maura....same size, build....even same hairdo, hair pulled into a bun. The photo had a hazy quality to it so it was difficult to determine with any precision if the young woman was Maura. At the time the manager's name of the fitness center was MM. This was in Toronto. The same fitness franchise is also in the U.S.

The red pickup truck and the Saturn had made several trips to NH? He loitered but Maura was not returned to the accident scene, was not dropped off at the store. The red truck eventually made the trip back to MA, but without Maura. Red truck's driver was at a loss but could not come forth with information.