Maura Murray

aftermath wrote:

It was more than just the name, MM, working at a franchise fitness business in Toronto.... in their ad at top of website page there was a photo of several people engaging in exercise routine and one looked very much like Maura....same size, build....even same hairdo, hair pulled into a bun. The photo had a hazy quality to it so it was difficult to determine with any precision if the young woman was Maura. At the time the manager's name of the fitness center was MM. This was in Toronto. The same fitness franchise is also in the U.S.

I saw that also, It would be worth the trip if I were there folks.

just me wrote:

IMPORTANT TID BIT BY BILLY:
"He told her on a scale of 1 to 10, it was only a 3 or 4," she said. "He had to talk to her a long time to calm her down. We are convinced something happened at school and her Amherst friends know."

Maybe stated to assuage his feelings of guilt as to why MM needed to get away in light of an (alleged) indiscretion on his behalf? And then, not related, MM is abducted by a perpetrator. That would cause tremendous feelings of guilt.

In the absence of any evidence of something triggering MM at UMass, this has "deeply hurt girlfriend" written all over it. Nothing else. IMO.

hannah_b wrote:

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I get your point, interesting. I didn´t mean a video recording could retrieved now, rather that it could answer if there is a possibility LE did retrieve such a video at the time. There have been conflicting information, some claim a licquor store video does exist, some have said it never was one.

I keep saying maybe there was an ATM in the liquer store.

WTF had wrote:
"The question would be, what would you use the FBI for? If there is nothing to investigate, all the people have been questioned, the forensic evidence has been tested, all the leads exhausted. What exactly does the FBI bring to the investigation? Of course, this is if she is missing against her will. Which we have no evidence of."

WTF,
Regardless of your loyalty, it was a great misfortune that the FBI's offer of assistance had been rejected. Their being restricted to a few interviews at Amherst was helpful, but had they been allowed to take over the case completely, the outcome may have proven to be quite different. For a lot of reasons this case is one that remains complex because of its connectedness with three states: NY, MA and NH.

Frostman wrote:

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Hey JWB,
Before my time. Maybe we could throw it out to the Topix auditors?
BTW, do you know how Renner is coming along with the "New Years in Goshen" and "MM's Secret Suitor"? Apparently he has the chap's name -- the one who MM was supposedly leaving Billy for.

I have ALL thoses number from 2009, written in SOME notebook. All I gotta do is find it, but I think my search was just as close as could be with all the numbers from 2004. That's how I came to KNOW that Kathleen was staying, living with TIM (future husband), and HIS parents. That number MAURA called on Thursday night, was made TO that house.

Bone mystery solved.
http://www.wmur.com/news/30196118/detail.html

aftermath wrote:

It was more than just the name, MM, working at a franchise fitness business in Toronto.... in their ad at top of website page there was a photo of several people engaging in exercise routine and one looked very much like Maura....same size, build....even same hairdo, hair pulled into a bun. The photo had a hazy quality to it so it was difficult to determine with any precision if the young woman was Maura. At the time the manager's name of the fitness center was MM. This was in Toronto. The same fitness franchise is also in the U.S.

LinkedIn = 2 MMs in TO:
1) Curves, graduated high school in 1981
2) Exec Asst. University RU (Canada) 1998-2001

Probably not, IMO.

aftermath wrote:

WTF had wrote:
"The question would be, what would you use the FBI for? If there is nothing to investigate, all the people have been questioned, the forensic evidence has been tested, all the leads exhausted. What exactly does the FBI bring to the investigation? Of course, this is if she is missing against her will. Which we have no evidence of."
WTF,
Regardless of your loyalty, it was a great misfortune that the FBI's offer of assistance had been rejected. Their being restricted to a few interviews at Amherst was helpful, but had they been allowed to take over the case completely, the outcome may have proven to be quite different. For a lot of reasons this case is one that remains complex because of its connectedness with three states: NY, MA and NH.

But if anything ever comes from the work the FBI didand/or continues to do on the Brianna Maitland case, they do have the notes and mentions of Maura Murray in that file, I'm sure. Maybe they've put that in with the file from going to Hanson and UMASS. And hopefully it is open for the MA AND NH police to look at. JMHO

Wowzer the real one wrote:

Bone mystery solved.
http://www.wmur.com/news/30196118/detail.html

Thank you for posting this.

aftermath wrote:

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jwb,
Not a professor, not a track coach, but getting close.

aftermath,
Judging by your comments, I take it that you actually purport to know the name of Maura´s supposed secret lover/boyfriend.
Could you confirm that?
Thanks!

aftermath wrote:

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hannah_b,
No, but getting close.

Come on, instead of pulling teeth, just come out with your answer, PLEASE. Unless of cource, you're fishing and hoping to get someone else to say it.

Ok, I'll leave it go now for today, I'm sure I'm interupting and for that I apologise.
Thanks

Wowzer the real one wrote:

Bone mystery solved.
http://www.wmur.com/news/30196118/detail.html

let's hope the story has truly been put to rest re: MM. when it comes back in a few months...you know, "that skull in Littleton"....it will be no wonder we'll be short of patience to rewind.
thanx for the update.

just me wrote:

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well, she's related as a Murry/Dwyer

believe her, Frosty. i do.

aftermath wrote:

Regardless of your loyalty, it was a great misfortune that the FBI's offer of assistance had been rejected. Their being restricted to a few interviews at Amherst was helpful, but had they been allowed to take over the case completely, the outcome may have proven to be quite different. For a lot of reasons this case is one that remains complex because of its connectedness with three states: NY, MA and NH.

The FBI was used to do interviews in MA, like you said. I heard of no restrictions on the FBI in Amherst. Why would they take over the case? How would it help? Is there some evidence that you know of that the NHSP lab can’t figure out? There is no known connection to Maura’s disappearance and any other locations other than the questions of what happened before she left. So your references to NY and MA other than in that context is another red herring.

And I have no loyalty in this thing except to the truth unlike others whose actual agenda appears to be turning this case into a TV miniseries. But please, keep flailing away.

Also it's cute the way you keep enticing the nitwits here who actually think you know something.

Bill

I know she was up here on her own will, but something altered her plans along the way and it could've been foul play. Nothing else makes sense,'' said Fred Murray of Hanson, Maura's brother

Her brother says "He KNOWS" she was up there on her own free will.

jwb wrote:

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you don't have to read it

i don't have to reread it. and i don't have to believe it. and i'll name it....bunk and BS.

just me wrote:

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I do. Peri, a murray/dwyer email and spoke with her once.

thank you for this public confirmation, just me.

Bone Mystery Solved:
"... of Littleton, told police she and her sister buried the bone last summer after her husband had died. She told police her husband had been in possession of the cranium since 1988, and that it had been given to him by a friend who was moving and no longer wanted it."

Not much demand for that sort of thing at a yard sale, I'd wager.

Good Lord. Sounds straight out of "Arsenic and Old Lace" to me.

A guy with NY plates showed up at the Stage Stop asking the owner some questions. He left in a similar manner as did Mr. Renner.

Prior to that a local had seen a contractor vehicle with NY plates in the vicinity of the weathered barn. They wrote down the plate number, which I might still have. Or maybe "just me" might have it unkowingly.