Maura Murray

mcsmom wrote:

studies done on this issue show that pregnancy is actually correlated with a dramatic decreased rate of suicide compared to non-pregnant women.

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The other interesting point is that an officer at the accident scene involving Toyota in Hadley(?)/near Hadley(?)...believe "inattentiveness" was documented by officer? The inattentiveness and so many accidents within 2 or 3 days. Wondering if she may have sustained a head injury, or possibly having some type of ongoing neurological problem. Why I say this is because of some statements made by those who knew Maura. Some of them had noticed something different about her. They had noticed a change in Maura. Change in affect? Even Billy mentioned that in his last phone conversation he thought there was something that seemed a little unusual, as though something else was on her mind. Wondering if these people in Maura's inner circle could have been observing signs and symptoms of head injury and were misinterpreting their observations. All of these people were noticing something different about her, change in her behavior, something out of the norm and she'd had so many accidents within a very short period of time.

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FrmLE wrote:

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To all those people suggesting LE should have searched sooner for a girl who crashed her car, refused help from a passerby, and then fled the scene on foot within minutes of a cop arriving?
Absurd, she left for a reason and it is impractical to suggest that cops should have mounted a search immediately. If you do, then don't bitch when your taxes quadruple because we are searching for every drunk who wants to avoid a DWI pinch...

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FrmLE wrote:

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Yes but one of our opinions is based on lots of facts and experience, the other is based on nothing more than uneducated speculation with no experience whatsoever. How many searches have you conducted, or been on again?
I'll let you guess which is which.

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FrmLE wrote:

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Appears to whom? To you? Because it did not appear that way to anyone who examined the windshield.
Her head did not impact the windshield, there are clear indications when this happens and in this case there were none.

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Frostman wrote:

Airbag deployment can crack windshields. There are videos on YouTube and elsewhere to that effect. Much data out there too.
The question might be: was epithelial matter found on the windshield?

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WTH-the-original wrote:

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Thank god someone else has a clue. I remember asking some of these people what they thought an appropriate response should have been. Did they think that helicopters and the national guard should be called out? K9 search and rescue teams should immediately start scouring the countryside?
There are some that actually think that is appropriate. They live in a fantasy land. That will never happen. One the is the incredible expense that would be incurred and two, You will grounds these teams down to nothing if you responded in that manner. Constantly activating and de-activating these groups would eventually demoralize these volunteers to the point were you likely would get no or inadequate responses. Many if not most of these groups are volunteers.
Bill

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WTH-the-original wrote:

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Thank god someone else has a clue. I remember asking some of these people what they thought an appropriate response should have been. Did they think that helicopters and the national guard should be called out? K9 search and rescue teams should immediately start scouring the countryside?
There are some that actually think that is appropriate. They live in a fantasy land. That will never happen. One the is the incredible expense that would be incurred and two, You will grounds these teams down to nothing if you responded in that manner. Constantly activating and de-activating these groups would eventually demoralize these volunteers to the point were you likely would get no or inadequate responses. Many if not most of these groups are volunteers.
Bill

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<quoted text>What is it about army guys and ex LE officers that make them feel they are so much better than everyone else?You did the same thing on the last forum you were in and ticked off a lot of people there

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And Fred went berserk because NH would not call the FBI in.

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whitenoise wrote:

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And Fred went berserk because NH would not call the FBI in.

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aftermath wrote:

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Frostman,
If you look closely at the damage to the windshield, it's positioning and pattern is not that of airbag deployment.

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FrmLE wrote:

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And btw, it wasn't just that she didn't want BA to call police, it was that she lied to him and then comitted a criminal offense by leaving the scene of an accident when help was coming.

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aftermath wrote:

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... It would be of interest to review her driving record over several-year period and compare the incidents, frequency to the number of accidents in which she was involved over the 2 or 3 day period prior to her disappearance.

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Frostman wrote:

<quoted text>Unless someone can prove MM was drinking in the car or tell me there was wine in the Coke bottle and MM's DNA was on that bottle I doubt that she was drinking AT ALL. After having an accident 40 hours earlier you probably wouldn't try that stunt again. You'd wait until you got to your destination before opening a cold one.

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Frostman wrote:

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Lord love a duck, not this biased gobbledygook again.
Who said she left the scene of the accident? She could have been lifted right from the car while trying to fend off the attacker with the box of wine. A brazen attacker could break her neck in a few seconds. No blood, no struggle. Maybe the cracked windshield was the sign of a struggle?-- doubtful but possible. She might have just thought the perp. was BA again checking on her and thus let her guard down.
She could have been walking up the road a few yards in an attempt to get cell reception and got snatched by creeps who stalked her from I-91. The search dog could have been hitting on her scent while she was already in the pep's vehicle. The perp(s) crank up the radio as she screams and BA hears nothing.
Unless someone can prove MM was drinking in the car or tell me there was wine in the Coke bottle and MM's DNA was on that bottle I doubt that she was drinking AT ALL. After having an accident 40 hours earlier you probably wouldn't try that stunt again. You'd wait until you got to your destination before opening a cold one.
She might have just been cautious of BA or couldn't see his face to see what (by all accounts) a sweet, nice guy he was. If she was leery of a stranger in a bus who could blame her? Perhaps she just thought she could handle it herself. BA didn't tell her there was no cell coverage at WB or did he? She probably though it would be okay with the AAA+ card that SR bought her or that she'd just walk to the next house, where a woman might be home, for a minute or so, if the cell wouldn't work.
If you don't have facts then it's just a rumor in the common man's scheisse haus. Nothing more.
What’s with all this churchy, judgmental stuff about lying? Are some here truly that puritanical or do you just have portable confessional boxes in your living rooms 24/7? A girl takes the path of least resistance and at least tells her supervisors she'll be away and now she's condemned to Topix purgatory? Some of you are letting that cloud your objectivity.
Rent-a-confessional, I think there's an App. for that.:)

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WTH-the-original wrote:

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Spoken like someone in serious denial.

Frostman wrote:

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What’s with all this churchy, judgmental stuff about lying? Are some here truly that puritanical or do you just have portable confessional boxes in your living rooms 24/7? A girl takes the path of least resistance and at least tells her supervisors she'll be away and now she's condemned to Topix purgatory? Some of you are letting that cloud your objectivity.
Rent-a-confessional, I think there's an App. for that.:)