Maura Murray

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Snowy wrote:

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i apologize for indulging in a silly, fanciful post above....while you're being serious here. so i'll recover my dignity. ok. recovered.
wow. you mention all kinds of possibilities. there is no way even an OB/GYN could predict the chances of conception for an individual woman who skipped "a" pill or "several" pills during a given cycle. so, while the assumption is that skipping a BC pill(s) could lead to pregnancy....that statement is too broad, imo, to be prove conception occurred, and that MM was acting on that info.
there is simply no way to assess whether she was, how early, whether she knew, and if she was acting on that knowledge. impossible.
hmmm....Renner. i like it when he snags the interview and can attach a name to quotes. so far, he's shared some new information.
i accept that it's only fair that he be allowed to ponder and then toss speculation here and there for feedback....and then self-correct if he realizes there is conflicting info.
i give him lots of credit for pursuing a mystery with more unknowns than knowns.
fingers crossed that he can compile a comprehensive, fact-based timeline with minimal speculation down the road.
as i write this, i'm beginning to believe it's best to simplify...simplify....simplif y whenever possible. stick to what is known to build from the most secure foundation of knowledge.
a nearly "impossible" task, yes?(your word), but i am hopeful. are you?

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Snowy wrote:

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i see what you mean....confounding (if that's a word).
the video surely portrays a man who seems confident and not edgy about being himself, or concerned about having his lyrics misinterpreted by the author or the public.
i guess it's one way to directly confront the issue of his name's being attached to MM's disappearance.

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AcidHouseMartin wrote:

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I certainly agree with 'sticking to knowledge' and simplifying. My issue with Renner is that he names people and alludes to suspicions about them a lot. He uses deliberately emotive and ambiguous terms in order to put across scenarios he has seemingly no evidence for. For example "FH had pictures of these girls in an 'adult magazine' " IMO, is a deliberate bit of sensationalism. An 'adult' magazine doesn't automatically mean porn. I have plenty of 'adult' games books and own many 'adult' films. None contain pornographic material at all.
Either he does this because he actually knows something he can't say for legal reasons OR it's pure sensationalism.
As someone who knows the case in and out, I am interested in your opinion of which it might be. If either.

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jwb wrote:

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The best way would have been for Renner to just dismiss RF as a suspect again in his previous post (west point professor) and just left it at that. There was nothing new what he stated except for the video and that is not of any help to defuse anything. IMO

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hannah_b wrote:

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I totally second your post. And how on earth could a supposedly educated woman mistake RF for an ALBINO? I believe RF made the mistake of making the tasteless joke of having her in his freezer, iirc.
I think Renner´s latest post is interesting in that he suggests yet another scenario, one that I recently touched upon myself: Maura meeting whomever she was supposed to meet up with, and that person killed her, accidentally or intentionally. Maybe Maura accidentally overdosed on booze and some pain killer or drug and died, and the other person panicked and got rid of the body. No serial killer, albino or other.

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Snowy wrote:

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hannah! you surprise me. you think Maura was unaccustomed to drinking alcohol to the point where she would die from alcohol poisoning and/or mixing alcohol with drugs? i don't recall mention of her overuse of OTC medications, or illegal drug use. earlier reference to a running injury (by FC) isn't proof of appropriate use or abuse.

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mcsmom wrote:

Here's Elwood:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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hannah_b wrote:

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No, this was just an example of how she could have died without having been killed by someone. I do not believe she used illegal drugs at all.

mcsmom wrote:

Here's Elwood:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Snowy wrote:

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imo, the reference to an "adult" magazine unquestionably suggests a pornographic publication; further, it is in the context of the two photos of female relatives. it is unknown whether that magazine is identified in any way as belonging to FM.
let's hope he doesn't buy into sensationalism by implication, speculation, or tailoring facts to fit a story line.
i believe he is in a sensitive but privileged position to document a compelling story. i'd imagine his professional obligation is to research, investigate and report to the highest standard for truth available to him.

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i hope he is receptive to our feedback...we have no shortage of that!

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jwb wrote:

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Renner quote: "Also, in the back I found some adult magazines among strewn junk and old mail addressed to Fred."

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jwb wrote:

where was the trestle bridge in the Video?

Wowzer the real one wrote:

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By the Dalton line. Not that far from Mt Misery Rd

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looking4amoose wrote:

<quoted text> Pauline wasn't found mere yards from the A Frame. Yes it is the same A frame, but but the water she was found in is at the base of the ski area which is across the street and through the parking lot of the lodge. My understanding is that her husband killed her.
I can think of at least three houses within eyesight of the crash

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Det Columbo wrote:

I think the name of the women found deceased at the Mtn. Lakes Lodge by the A-Frame was Pauline something. Looking thru My notes now. Another strange case.
John