Maura Murray

Rod wrote:

Snowy, I think these people here don't understand you. They think you just want to shut down conversation. I remember you liking a good rigorous discussion, and I am sure you are frustrated by the same ol same ol discussions happening here.
Whatever became of Det. Columbo and Aftermath knowing each other. That's a hoot ain't it?
How many people do you really think are posting here now? 5 or 6?

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Frostman wrote:

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They do clean at break-time, TG otherwise goodness knows what would crawl out of the woodwork! Perhaps not at Snowy's reform school, but there are daily and weekly cleaning services at colleges and universities, at least there was at Frosty's alma mater.
Has anyone seen before and after pictures of MM's dorm room? Nope, didn't think so.
The JJ bookmark? Probably just taken from the glovebox at some time or other to be used as a page marker, IMO.
Besides, who would camp at any time of year, especially winter? Only Snowy and her previous incarnations on Topix, all alone in her tot tent, protesting, but.. but I have to have veto power. Snowy, beleive it or not, was at one time an earnest quester trying to find out why and how Maura disappeared...

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Tom wrote:

After reading Brenners Blog he does make some very interesting facts.
- Maura was heading to a place that her father and her would always go to.
- Maura had the insurance paper work that her dad requested in the car.
- Maura's father after she went missing appealed to her as if she was a runaway, then after time treated this like foul play.
- When her father was told about the rag in the muffler/exhaust he told the authorities that it was to prevent smoking and he gave it to her - making sure he told LE that so it wouldn't be surprised if his DNA was on it.
- He didn't meet with LE for interview until two years after the accident. He brought lawyers. Wouldn't you want to meet with LE to help them immediately?
Those things listed are absolute facts. If your daughter wants to be with you in a one bed hotel room at 2:30 AM (which is weird) and crashes your car while having a couple drinks. If your cool enough not to make a big deal about it then I'm sure your daughter would open up to you and tell you anything that was bothering her, and where and why she was going to NH if it wasn't to see you.
I'm not saying he's guilty but they're a lot of facts that point towards him atleast knowing a little more than he knows. I think once LE realized that he wasn't talking much they went into shutdown mode with him, or they picked up some strong evidence to make him a POI.
I'm not even saying he killed her, maybe he helped her runaway, to help her start a new life. And maybe LE is thinking the same thing. Maybe they won't charge him until and or if they find a body, cause otherwise it wouldn't be a murder he would have assisted her in running away.

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Snowy wrote:

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oh, surely you are in need of correcting; i let your untoward comment go the first time without answering. i extend both criticism and praise according, and anything in-between, according to my authentic opinions, for whatever they matter. opinions, after all, are just that.

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Rod wrote:

Snowy, I think these people here don't understand you. They think you just want to shut down conversation. I remember you liking a good rigorous discussion, and I am sure you are frustrated by the same ol same ol discussions happening here.
Whatever became of Det. Columbo and Aftermath knowing each other. That's a hoot ain't it?
How many people do you really think are posting here now? 5 or 6?

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aftermath wrote:

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jwb,
Read Bill's last sentence and note the word "job." This says it all. JOB. Bill, Snowy, et al, are doing their "job." What does their "job" entail? Their "job" tends to be METHODICALLY attacking Maura's character and seemingly protecting someone who abducted her. This is the only logical perspective, given their hostility toward those posing OTHER theories other than the drunken, dwi-avoiding, runaway, suicide theory. At least this is my impression and I've been following their posts for years. They KNOW they have a serial killer in that area. Attempting to have people believe P. Clark dove off a bridge 3.5 ft from the water with the intent of suicide??????? An 'accidental' fall? Please. They must think the population at large is completely ignorant. There is a problem in that area or otherwise task force would not be warranted. Even a "border" task force. Yes, there is a problem.

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WTH-the-original wrote:

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I love this. Nothing to do with Maura. Just total nonsensical ramblings with side orders of fantasy and bullshit. Pure entertainment.
Bill

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Frostman wrote:

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So you find it far more acceptable to abuse Patric McCarthy's mother do you? What disgraceful and insensitive comments you've made which leaves you with zero credibility anywhere. EMS, PMS... nobody cares who you are or what your day job was, or any of your previous incarnations on the internet or how far you live from Sheffield, VT or why you moved there. Or... what military training you claimed to have endured... SAS, Mossad, Navy SEAL. Everyone just hits the snooze but when you go on about all that missile nonsense.
I'm told someone has purchased a gift certificate for you for a colossal colonic. You need it, and then some.

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WTH-the-original wrote:

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I love this. Nothing to do with Maura. Just total nonsensical ramblings with side orders of fantasy and bullshit. Pure entertainment.
Bill

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aftermath wrote:

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jwb,
Notice what brought "Snowy" out this time? Yes. My reference to the word "job." LOL. She doesn't like the idea people might get the idea that she, et al, have "jobs" regarding their posts on this and other sites. Snowy doesn't have a personal opinion on much that she states on these sites. She just follows what is scripted and otherwise responds with a general get 'em off this forum type of response.

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Snowy wrote:

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the perception of "abuse" is a subjective determination in a PC world filled with victims. it is not ok for victims or non-victims alike to make groundless accusations. it's good there is someone to stand up for finding "truth" whenever possible. i don't see WTH/Bill as an aggressor.

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Snowy wrote:

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i take my "jobs" with compensation, please...and i do volunteer work as a gift. this is the latter. it became apparent to me very quickly some years ago that there was no information to share with the public about MM's disappearance. in fact, the forum supported only speculative ideas sourced in faulty information. a few of us have wrapped our arms around that perspective to keep the insanity contained.

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WTH-the-original wrote:

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No one wants to shut down conversation. What Snowy, Wowzer and I want is to keep discussion with what is known. Others want to venture off into lala land and chase unicorns. Including dragging people into the event that have nothing to do with this case simply because it fulfills some narcissistic need they have. They want to rush off into fantasy land and make believe that they are crime solvers. Others, like shack have an agenda of trying to settle scores against imaginary wrong doers in that area. Both groups would be better off using what is known and realizing that this isn't going to be solved until more information may occur.
More unknowns than equations. Mathematicians know to leave that alone because it is not solvable until more information can be found. Trying to solve it results in considerable time wasting. What I call pointless windmilling and tremendous amounts of comic relief. All fun and games (entertainment), until someone gets an eye poked out. We are letting the idiots play, run around like mindless morons, but we will not let the idiots poke anyone's eye out.
Bill

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aftermath wrote:

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Bill wrote:
"Nothing to do with Maura."
Bill,
What you, et al, post has "nothing to do with Maura" except lead people AWAY from the very strong possibility that she was ABDUCTED by NH's mystery road warrior. Good luck with that....but it is not going to work...no way, no how.

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Rod wrote:

Tom, why do you think LE would claim to have (2 or 1) videos of Maura on the day she disappeared (and say that she was alone) but yet not show those videos to family or the public. VIdeos of people right before the disappeared are often shown to the public sooner if not later. Not here. A strategic move by LE? The Ducks will tell you its a cover up by LE, but you theory makes much more sense.

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Frostman wrote:

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Reread it again. It's abusive and appalling verbiage. It would lead one to speculate that he couldn't take the heat on this thread so he decided to pick on someone he perceived to be more vulnerable.
I don't care if he picks on me, but to attack Patric's mom... that just not acceptable for me.
Now I question anything he's said on this thread as being credible.

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aftermath wrote:

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Bill wrote:
"What Snowy, Wowzer and I want is to keep discussion with what is known."
Bill,
What you, et all want "known" is what you want the fine folks of NH and elsewhere to believe. Period....and again, just another reminder so you at least sound semi-educated, those words..."idiot(s), moron(s) are archaic terms which are no longer used in the world of mental health. Maybe they need to send you to a conference or workshop somewhere for additional training.