Maura Murray

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Jwb

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(last post)That didn't come out right sorry folks electric bill is over due and it is dark.

I wanted to say it is great to see positive back and forth talk about Maura and that is all.
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Jan 21, 2012
 
Tom wrote:
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And some father's after seeing their daughter in two accidents related to drinking maybe they decided to kill her......like you said everyone reacts differently.
I don't buy the theory of Fred killing her, but I would think he might be upset about the accidents. My op only
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I've been reading here for almost 8 years. You need to go do some reading/watching. You have just scratched the surface.
take the time and answer him. Tom has good thoughts and opinions as we all do. Reading all the posts will just drive one nuts.
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where did the squaw walk come from? I thought fred tried calling Haverhill pd to tell them something? If not right shack please set it straight, Thanks
Fred called PD Tuesday PM and begged for search and was told it was late and would in AM...the next day when the words of "squaw walk" were said was, in meeting him later was a very nervous utterance of nothing...Maura's father was and is a very excitable person...a nervous and scared father. MY father would have said "excuse me sir..may I have a minute...my dauther is missing..blah blah...my mother would have been jailed for..nuf said...but the point is that Ibelive Fred is being punished for his personality.
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You can speculate all you want. We don't have the answers. Fred never said she was acting strangely.
I thought Fred called the Hav pd to tell them somthing after maura went missing such as he knew she was depressed etc..?If That call never took place -put it to rest if you know something

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Here is your evidence:
- Maura was heading to a place that her father and her would always go to.
- Maura had the insurance paper work that her dad requested in the car.
- Maura's father after she went missing appealed to her as if she was a runaway, then after time treated this like foul play.
- When her father was told about the rag in the muffler/exhaust he told the authorities that it was to prevent smoking and he gave it to her - making sure he told LE that so it wouldn't be surprised if his DNA was on it.
- He didn't meet with LE for interview until two years after the accident. He brought lawyers. Wouldn't you want to meet with LE to help them immediately?
Those things listed are absolute facts. If your daughter wants to be with you in a one bed hotel room at 2:30 AM (which is weird) and crashes your car while having a couple drinks. If your cool enough not to make a big deal about it then I'm sure your daughter would open up to you and tell you anything that was bothering her, and where and why she was going to NH if it wasn't to see you.
I'm not saying he's guilty but they're a lot of facts that point towards him atleast knowing a little more than he knows. I think once LE realized that he wasn't talking much they went into shutdown mode with him, or they picked up some strong evidence to make him a POI.
I'm not even saying he killed her, maybe he helped her runaway, to help her start a new life. And maybe LE is thinking the same thing. Maybe they won't charge him until and or if they find a body, cause otherwise it wouldn't be a murder he would have assisted her in running away.
And here is where I get confused. You were saying that he was a POI or more. There is nothing here that makes him guilty of anything. And he has never listed him as a suspect or POI by any police agency. Maybe because there is no evidence that make him suspect. I certainly don't think what you have presented make him a suspect. I don't know Fred and think he can be a serious a**hole. But I don't see any evidence of wrongdoing on his part.

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Tom wrote,
"I also think MM father knows more about why she went went missing."

Tom,
If one reads some of the letters and other material written by FM, it appears that he may have a very good idea as to who may have abducted and possibly murdered his daughter, but unfortunately has no proof to support his belief. This is my opinion. FM is an intelligent individual and therefore if he felt it necessary to have legal counsel present, then I believe he did. In my opinion, only a fool would agree to an interview without legal counsel present and/or attempt to represent him/herself in court. My motto is that it's better to err on the side of caution. This holds true anywhere in the world.
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<quoted text>Fred called PD Tuesday PM and begged for search and was told it was late and would in AM...the next day when the words of "squaw walk" were said was, in meeting him later was a very nervous utterance of nothing...Maura's father was and is a very excitable person...a nervous and scared father. MY father would have said "excuse me sir..may I have a minute...my dauther is missing..blah blah...my mother would have been jailed for..nuf said...but the point is that Ibelive Fred is being punished for his personality.
Shack, thanks! i am a dad and my daughter is my world. I can truly appreciate what you just posted.Fathers love their daughters so much that they would go to the face of the earth for them. I hugged my daughter today when she told me she got a part time job. I hugged her because I could, she was with me. I can't imagine loosing my daughter. I am sure i would be focused on her and only her. No questions asked!! i would do as fred did and searched high and low myself knowing the limited resources available. If fred got angry about the situation, most of us would if it were our daughter. I just can't imagine life without my daughter and I mean it JWB
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I don't see Fred as a part in this either bill. My op
as a dad and observer.
Jwb

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Jan 21, 2012
 
I gave you a check on your last post Bill
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Jwb wrote:
I don't see Fred as a part in this either bill. My op
as a dad and observer.
But....He can not be ruled out.some dads can be bad dads.
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I don't see Fred as a part in this either bill. My op
as a dad and observer.
The only involvement I can see Fred possibly could have had is knowing what made Maura leave Amherst, and maybe knowing where she was headed. But as usual, no proof, just an unfounded opinion.
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The only involvement I can see Fred possibly could have had is knowing what made Maura leave Amherst, and maybe knowing where she was headed. But as usual, no proof, just an unfounded opinion.
I do agree with that Hannah although he prob doesn't know the final outcome. who knows right? he seems like a dad that loves his daughter from what we see on video etc, but we don't really know him nor can judge him without knowing those elements.

Some of you may know Fred and can offer a different view point.

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Shack wrote:
<quoted text>Fred called PD Tuesday PM and begged for search and was told it was late and would in AM...the next day when the words of "squaw walk" were said was, in meeting him later was a very nervous utterance of nothing...Maura's father was and is a very excitable person...a nervous and scared father. MY father would have said "excuse me sir..may I have a minute...my dauther is missing..blah blah...my mother would have been jailed for..nuf said...but the point is that Ibelive Fred is being punished for his personality.
How is he being punished? Can't be more than how the locals and SBD was punished.
More than likely it isn't his personality but his own words and actions that leave a negative lasting impression.
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The only involvement I can see Fred possibly could have had is knowing what made Maura leave Amherst, and maybe knowing where she was headed. But as usual, no proof, just an unfounded opinion.
Fred did say he had no idea why she left to go to Nh whether that was accurate or not ? who knows right?
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Wowzer the real one wrote:
<quoted text>How is he being punished? Can't be more than how the locals and SBD was punished.
More than likely it isn't his personality but his own words and actions that leave a negative lasting impression.
Wowzer, has your child been lost or killed? Can you imagine how it feels? I can't even go there. I think there is a difference between losing your child and people talking on topix. I think I know what I would choose. How about you? Do you have Kids?
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Jwb wrote:
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Fred did say he had no idea why she left to go to Nh whether that was accurate or not ? who knows right?
Fred/family has repeatedly been caught deliberately misleading and even flat out lying to the public on the old MM and MMM forums. Thatīs why I personally distrust anything that man says. But who to trust or not is ceratinly up to each and everyone.
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certainly, of course.. must be tired...
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I am here for Maura only. Why ? who knows I guess the Blue Ribbon and going by it from time to time and being able to hug my daughter and Fred not being able to do that with Muara. I feel their Pain
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You may call me stupid etc.. But I have a big heart. Lost my mom and dad this year and my sister before that. I am a representative of them here and now and I know they are proud of me.

All for Maura

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