Tom
Chesterfield, MO
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Frostman wrote: <quoted text> Tom, old chap, late last week you said you hadn't heard of Mr. Renner and Det. Scarinza and now you're magically up to snuff and want to strap a man to a polygraph machine... a man who law enforcement checked out six ways to Sunday. What gives? Who cajoled you into becoming part of this lynch mob? Actually I did read Mr. Renner's blog. Serriously how long did you think it would take to read it? How many facts do you think are on it? It isn't war and peace. Honestly it took all but 2 hours to read the blog. I thank you for who ever showed the blog link to me. And according to Mr. Renner he doesn't put Mr. Murray in a positive light knowing the facts about him. I think later on he will point the finger at him, but he has to finish his book no one is going to help him if he has already pointed the finger. LE DIDN'T CHECK HIM UNTIL TWO YEARS AFTER. HE WASN'T CHECKED OUT SIX WAYS TO SUNDAY. Besides what would he have to fear from a polygraph? more information can only help.
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Tom
Chesterfield, MO
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Frostman wrote: <quoted text>
What gives? Who cajoled you into becoming part of this lynch mob? Lynch mob to take a polygraph? The defense of Mr. Murray right now is only the attacking of people that say "hey there is some questionable stuff on this guy maybe he did it" And all you poeple that think he didn't do it attacks the person who raises the question. I've never heard anyone say he didn't do it because that night he was.......I never heard anyone provide this forum with a factual alibi.
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whitenoise
Winthrop, MA
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Tom wrote: <quoted text> I don't know if we are saying the same thing because I'm saying I think Fred either killed his daughter or helped her runaway. The way he handled the rag thing makes me think he had to go on record that his DNA would be on it. I thoink the way LE has treated him poorly but only because he is a strong POI at this point. And since he led the cover-up, this clearly makes him look suspicous. On MMM he refused to answer the most innocent, innocuous questions when Helena asked him on behalf of the posters (all of whom were strongly pro Fred).
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Tom
Chesterfield, MO
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Frostman wrote: <quoted text> Tom, old chap, late last week you said you hadn't heard of Mr. Renner and Det. Scarinza and now you're magically up to snuff and want to strap a man to a polygraph machine... a man who law enforcement checked out six ways to Sunday. What gives? Who cajoled you into becoming part of this lynch mob? How long does one have to "claim" to know about this case before they can comment? How many facts are out there that can be read? You know some of the best cold cases were solved because a new set of eyes looked at the case very briefly and was able to solve it because they had all the current information at once to review not bits and pieces.
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Tom wrote: <quoted text> Actually I did read Mr. Renner's blog. Serriously how long did you think it would take to read it? How many facts do you think are on it? It isn't war and peace. Honestly it took all but 2 hours to read the blog. I thank you for who ever showed the blog link to me. And according to Mr. Renner he doesn't put Mr. Murray in a positive light knowing the facts about him. I think later on he will point the finger at him, but he has to finish his book no one is going to help him if he has already pointed the finger. LE DIDN'T CHECK HIM UNTIL TWO YEARS AFTER. HE WASN'T CHECKED OUT SIX WAYS TO SUNDAY. Besides what would he have to fear from a polygraph? more information can only help. Facts are facts. What part of Mr. Renner's blog do you consider to be factual and what areas need to be backed up with more evidence? Or you just take everything at face value to suit your own purpose?
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Not So
Hingham, MA
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Tom wrote: <quoted text> .. LE DIDN'T CHECK HIM UNTIL TWO YEARS AFTER. mcsmom Bolton, CT #9810 Article published Dec 29, 2005 Ayotte: "Mr. Murray's had frequent contact with both my office and members of the state police. In fact, I personally met with him along with lead investigators of the state police last spring Published 2005 Spring 2005 Not two years.
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whitenoise
Winthrop, MA
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Frostman wrote: <quoted text> Tom, old chap, late last week you said you hadn't heard of Mr. Renner and Det. Scarinza and now you're magically up to snuff and want to strap a man to a polygraph machine... a man who law enforcement checked out six ways to Sunday. What gives? Who cajoled you into becoming part of this lynch mob? lynch mob ? oh, you must be reminiscing about what MMM, led by Shack, did to SBD and other NH residents!
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Snowy
Gloucester, MA
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Frostman wrote: <quoted text> Feel free to go back and read Tom's posts Mein Kommandant. He claims to not have read much of anything as of last Thursday. Awfully touchy Ms. SnowyWhite... is Tom your baby brother or just another patsy controlled by the Brat Pack? it's only slightly interesting, and very expected to see the pot stirred by refreshed monikers, isn't it? oh...but you might not know...you're newly registered. a newbie. with lots of opinions. lol
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whitenoise wrote: <quoted text> lynch mob ? oh, you must be reminiscing about what MMM, led by Shack, did to SBD and other NH residents! This is payback for AEA (SBD) isn't it? Butch Atwood (AEA, BA) was questioned because he stopped to help Maura and now you are trying to besmirch Mr. Murray's reputation because you perceive that BA was maligned in some way. Nobody can provide any information or links or proof, but y'all keep hammering away at it.
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Snowy
Gloucester, MA
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whitenoise wrote: <quoted text> we are told he erased it because he didn't want to hear it ?????? if you don't want to hear it then stop listening to it! a voicemail msg. from your beloved...who has gone missing....where there is "whimpering" and crying/sobbing....and you delete it? if deletion weren't an active stepped process, the excuse could have been..."ooops!". absent that, the excuse given is weak and odd. of course, all of the excuses made here are weak, odd and inconsistent with logic and reason.
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Since: Dec 11
Franconia NH
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The CCU is in charge now.....and they have a lot more info than what You think or want to believe. It is in the hands of the right people now. John
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Tom
Chesterfield, MO
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Frostman wrote: <quoted text> Facts are facts. What part of Mr. Renner's blog do you consider to be factual and what areas need to be backed up with more evidence? Or you just take everything at face value to suit your own purpose? I don't know about you but I take almost everything at face value. If you don't take things at face value don't worry there's no harm in that. You and I should meet. You can give me ten thousand 100 dollar bills with Ben Franklins face on it, and I will give you ten thousand $1 bills with George Washington's face on it. To me and the rest of the world I would have gotton a better deal, but in your "face value" less world it would be an even trade. Let me know when you want to meet cause when we do meet you will really be "suiting my purpose"
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Since: Dec 11
Franconia NH
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Tom wrote: <quoted text> I being one of the biggest accusers of Mr. Murray will step forward and say: The only thing we want him strapped to is a polygraph machine let's get some answers. Then we will take it from there. We We Weeeeee all the way home. What is with the We Mr. Tom.? Are You happy being part of the group.? John
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Tom wrote: <quoted text> I don't know about you but I take almost everything at face value. If you don't take things at face value don't worry there's no harm in that. You and I should meet. You can give me ten thousand 100 dollar bills with Ben Franklins face on it, and I will give you ten thousand $1 bills with George Washington's face on it. To me and the rest of the world I would have gotton a better deal, but in your "face value" less world it would be an even trade. Let me know when you want to meet cause when we do meet you will really be "suiting my purpose" I agree, Tom, it never hurts to have a fresh set of eyes. Absolutely. All I'm suggesting is don't be swayed by the agendas of the Brat Pack.
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Snowy
Gloucester, MA
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Det Columbo wrote: The CCU is in charge now.....and they have a lot more info than what You think or want to believe. It is in the hands of the right people now. John who are you talking to? i just told you that a few posts ago. lol
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Tom
Chesterfield, MO
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Det Columbo wrote: <quoted text> We We Weeeeee all the way home. What is with the We Mr. Tom.? Are You happy being part of the group.? John The group that wants to try and solve this case? Yes. Do you want to be part of opposition that only adds negative thoughts, calls people names and want to try to make people feel bad by putting them in a group? I can't even put the oppostion in a group because each person of the opposition has this mind set that they are better than everyone. You are all kings of your own little universe.
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Since: Dec 11
Franconia NH
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Snowy wrote: <quoted text> who are you talking to? i just told you that a few posts ago. lol Not You apparently. I now have the "Dome Of Silence" activated for Your posts. It is the updated model and has a very highly sophisticated alarm system. S N O W Y....You have been Domed. John
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Since: Dec 11
Franconia NH
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Tom wrote: <quoted text> The group that wants to try and solve this case? Yes. Do you want to be part of opposition that only adds negative thoughts, calls people names and want to try to make people feel bad by putting them in a group? I can't even put the oppostion in a group because each person of the opposition has this mind set that they are better than everyone. You are all kings of your own little universe. THANK YOU.... John
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Franconia NH
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Tom wrote: <quoted text> The group that wants to try and solve this case? Yes. Do you want to be part of opposition that only adds negative thoughts, calls people names and want to try to make people feel bad by putting them in a group? I can't even put the oppostion in a group because each person of the opposition has this mind set that they are better than everyone. You are all kings of your own little universe. Just finished having My Crown cleaned. It is soooo sparkly and bright. Oh what a great day. John
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Det Columbo wrote: <quoted text> Just finished having My Crown cleaned. It is soooo sparkly and bright. Oh what a great day. John Oh you Princes of Maine, Kings of New England you!
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