Maura Murray

Frostman wrote:

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Oh you Princes of Maine, Kings of New England you!

My throne sits at the edge of the Lupine fields on Sunset Hill rd. in Sugar Hill. What a great view of the Majestic Mountains. And it is all mine to enjoy anytime I want. I love it here.

John

Det Columbo wrote:

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Just finished having My Crown cleaned. It is soooo sparkly and bright. Oh what a great day.
John

You have done well your highness. As Lord of oppostition you have successfully pulled conversation off of a missing girl to put the attention you. Your plan is working. You shall rest easy today having your ego fulfilled.

Det Columbo wrote:

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Not You apparently. I now have the "Dome Of Silence" activated for Your posts. It is the updated model and has a very highly sophisticated alarm system.
S N O W Y....You have been Domed.
John

excellent! i'm one of the lucky ones who never entered the Tot Tent...it's been purely exhilarating to walk freely around the perimeter.

Det Columbo wrote:

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My throne sits at the edge of the Lupine fields on Sunset Hill rd. in Sugar Hill. What a great view of the Majestic Mountains. And it is all mine to enjoy anytime I want. I love it here.
John

trailers for sale or rent....

Tom wrote:

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You have done well your highness. As Lord of oppostition you have successfully pulled conversation off of a missing girl to put the attention you. Your plan is working. You shall rest easy today having your ego fulfilled.

In almost 8 yrs. of looking into this case I have only fallen off THE SERIOUS WAGON a few times. Yes it has been here and after listening to the Dribble Drabble one is likely to have that happen. Why don't You harass some of the other people who fall off it as well?

Trust Me, Maura Murray is My main concern and always has been.

John

Snowy wrote:

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trailers for sale or rent....

King of The Road by Roger Miller. One of My favs.

John

Tom wrote:

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You have done well your highness. As Lord of oppostition you have successfully pulled conversation off of a missing girl to put the attention you. Your plan is working. You shall rest easy today having your ego fulfilled.

Oh baby, you ain't seen nothing yet. Apparently you haven't "met" Bill... wait maybe you are Bill?:)

Snowy wrote:

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a voicemail msg. from your beloved...who has gone missing....where there is "whimpering" and crying/sobbing....and you delete it? if deletion weren't an active stepped process, the excuse could have been..."ooops!". absent that, the excuse given is weak and odd.
of course, all of the excuses made here are weak, odd and inconsistent with logic and reason.

Mason- 01-26-2009

Without knowing what sort of cell phone Billy had or the service provider, the message may have automatically been erased after 30 days. My phone works that way. He probably had one of the Sprint phones that Sharon obtained with her Sprint calling plan. I know she gave one to Maura, so maybe she also gave one to Billy. BOTTOM LINE: I don't know, but whether he had a Sprint phone or a different phone, the message may been erased automatically without his knowledge.

mcsmom wrote:

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Mason- 01-26-2009
Without knowing what sort of cell phone Billy had or the service provider, the message may have automatically been erased after 30 days. My phone works that way. He probably had one of the Sprint phones that Sharon obtained with her Sprint calling plan. I know she gave one to Maura, so maybe she also gave one to Billy. BOTTOM LINE: I don't know, but whether he had a Sprint phone or a different phone, the message may been erased automatically without his knowledge.

Good point! Also perhaps he erased it because he couldn't bring himself to listen to it and/or the message had been accessed by LE and filed away for future use.

I don't believe that it was the Red Cross administration calling at 7AM Central time. I trust SR and BR's sense that it was MM. And LE is under no obligation to reveal to Mr. Renner details pertaining to an ongoing investigation. If it was MM then the abductor is possibly one who enjoys a game of cat and mouse. And if it was one of MM's calling cards then the caller would have to know the PIN # or force MM to make the call... And there would have to be cell coverage at the location.

uh, no. very little is known about many of the details without the benefit of direct interaction with the principles....FM, the sibs, Sharon and Billy, to name a few.
and what about that friend that didn't want to get Maura "in trouble"?
anyway, maybe the phone auto deleted....and maybe it didn't. if it did...why the excuse?....that he couldn't listen to the message anymore.
so much of this conversation includes unverified information and poorly formed ideas. some think a case-crackin'-clue will emerge from the twisted tangle of partial and misinformation.
still, there's all this hamstering on the exercise wheel.
my current phone promises to auto-delete messages after a certain number of days....but doesn't. oh, well.
only Billy knows for sure.

Frostman wrote:

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Good point! Also perhaps he erased it because he couldn't bring himself to listen to it and/or the message had been accessed by LE and filed away for future use.
I don't believe that it was the Red Cross administration calling at 7AM Central time. I trust SR and BR's sense that it was MM. And LE is under no obligation to reveal to Mr. Renner details pertaining to an ongoing investigation. If it was MM then the abductor is possibly one who enjoys a game of cat and mouse. And if it was one of MM's calling cards then the caller would have to know the PIN # or force MM to make the call... And there would have to be cell coverage at the location.

Frostman - Billy's Mother said she used to get Maura phone cards before she got Maura a cellphone. A cell phone would still charge you a rate per minute for calling the access number from the calling card to enter your pin and make a call. Therefore you would be double paying from a phone usage point of you. It wouldn't make sense to make a call from a cell phone to a calling card.
Phone cards could have been used from payphones, but I don't phone cards were being used by her in 2004. The rate per minute for cell phone use was very low and more economical and user friendly than a calling card cause you would have to be in a fixed location.

have a gansett

Tom wrote:

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Frostman - Billy's Mother said she used to get Maura phone cards before she got Maura a cellphone. A cell phone would still charge you a rate per minute for calling the access number from the calling card to enter your pin and make a call. Therefore you would be double paying from a phone usage point of you. It wouldn't make sense to make a call from a cell phone to a calling card.
Phone cards could have been used from payphones, but I don't phone cards were being used by her in 2004. The rate per minute for cell phone use was very low and more economical and user friendly than a calling card cause you would have to be in a fixed location.

Long distance calling cards for cell phones. You call through a third party number enter your PIN and then dial long distance or even locally. No number shows up on your phone bill and if someone dials that third party number it just says it's a calling card provider. Not traceable back to the cell phone. Maybe MM had a left over card from before she got the new phone.

Tom wrote:

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The group that wants to try and solve this case? Yes. Do you want to be part of opposition that only adds negative thoughts, calls people names and want to try to make people feel bad by putting them in a group? I can't even put the oppostion in a group because each person of the opposition has this mind set that they are better than everyone. You are all kings of your own little universe.

I have yet to see anything that makes me believe you know the slightest thing about this case.

That would put you in the company of Frosty who also doesn't appear to know much about the case. BUT... does have excellent taste in film and TV. So that puts him/her at least one up on you.

Do some research so you have a clue.

Bill

Frostman wrote:

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This is payback for AEA (SBD) isn't it? Butch Atwood (AEA, BA) was questioned because he stopped to help Maura and now you are trying to besmirch Mr. Murray's reputation because you perceive that BA was maligned in some way. Nobody can provide any information or links or proof, but y'all keep hammering away at it.

The old MMM site and the threads that dragged BA and the locals thru the mud have disappeared, taking the proof with them. POOF! GONE!!
BA was maligned in some way???? Yeah I guess you could say that along with being blamed, crucified,hurt, talked negatively about on an internet public forum and questioned by family, strangers, LE, friends and reporters over and over and over again. Even after he moved to FL Pi's tracked him down for more questions. All in the name of MM.
It's quite obvious that the old MMM forum members that played a part in and allowed the bashing and spewing of hatred are here on Topix under different monikers.
It's really funny how you try to silence posters with the word libel now that you can't just delete and ban them if you don't like what is being said. Quite interesting.

Frostman wrote:

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Long distance calling cards for cell phones. You call through a third party number enter your PIN and then dial long distance or even locally. No number shows up on your phone bill and if someone dials that third party number it just says it's a calling card provider. Not traceable back to the cell phone. Maybe MM had a left over card from before she got the new phone.

A calling card process works like this : Dial access number then enter PIN and then dial termination number.

If it was a calling card the calling card company obviously knows the access number (because it is their number)the destination number would be Billy's and then they could easily find the PIN Number associated with it. The PIN number would tell you the most because the batch of PINS are assigned to a group of cards that are shipped to a distributor and you can find out where they were bought and sold.

You could also track the number that called the access number.

WTH-the-original wrote:

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I have yet to see anything that makes me believe you know the slightest thing about this case.
That would put you in the company of Frosty who also doesn't appear to know much about the case. BUT... does have excellent taste in film and TV. So that puts him/her at least one up on you.
Do some research so you have a clue.
Bill

And you know everything about this case to judge my knowledge right? You know so much about this case and you know where she is, but your too smart to tell us, and you want us to figure it out. Can you just give us a hint and point us in the right direction?

Wowzer,

If Mr. Atwood was harangued in that manner I find it truly, truly appalling. I wasn't there and I didn't partake in any verbal or written assaults on Mr. Atwood.

In that same vein, however, I cannot condone the witch hunt that is going on here with respect to Mr Murray's moral character. Bad behaviour is not an excuse for more bad behaviour. Every time someone questions your rationalization for maligning Mr. Murray your only reply is -- but, but what about BA? It seems to me you and others feel it's justified in egging on other posters because you feel BA was mistreated.

Any character assassination of Mr. Atwood after February 9, 2004 has nothing to do with Maura's disappearance. If Mr. Murray was brusque with searchers, it's regrettable, but again nothing to do with what happened to his daughter.

I have no stake in this and no personal knowledge of any of the parties involved.

Frostman wrote:

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Long distance calling cards for cell phones. You call through a third party number enter your PIN and then dial long distance or even locally. No number shows up on your phone bill and if someone dials that third party number it just says it's a calling card provider. Not traceable back to the cell phone. Maybe MM had a left over card from before she got the new phone.

I think I read Sharon got Maura RC calling cards for Christmas 2003. Will have to try and find the source...

On the Disappeared show, Sharon Rausch stated she gave Maura calling cards from the Red Cross just a couple months before at Christmas.