Maura Murray

Frostman wrote:

I have no stake in this and no personal knowledge of any of the parties involved.

mcsmom wrote:

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Mason- 01-26-2009
Without knowing what sort of cell phone Billy had or the service provider, the message may have automatically been erased after 30 days. My phone works that way. He probably had one of the Sprint phones that Sharon obtained with her Sprint calling plan. I know she gave one to Maura, so maybe she also gave one to Billy. BOTTOM LINE: I don't know, but whether he had a Sprint phone or a different phone, the message may been erased automatically without his knowledge.

whitenoise wrote:

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we are told he erased it because he didn't want to hear it ?????? if you don't want to hear it then stop listening to it!

Frostman wrote:

Wowzer,
If Mr. Atwood was harangued in that manner I find it truly, truly appalling. I wasn't there and I didn't partake in any verbal or written assaults on Mr. Atwood.
In that same vein, however, I cannot condone the witch hunt that is going on here with respect to Mr Murray's moral character. Bad behaviour is not an excuse for more bad behaviour. Every time someone questions your rationalization for maligning Mr. Murray your only reply is -- but, but what about BA? It seems to me you and others feel it's justified in egging on other posters because you feel BA was mistreated.
Any character assassination of Mr. Atwood after February 9, 2004 has nothing to do with Maura's disappearance. If Mr. Murray was brusque with searchers, it's regrettable, but again nothing to do with what happened to his daughter.
I have no stake in this and no personal knowledge of any of the parties involved.

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Frostman wrote:

Wowzer,
If Mr. Atwood was harangued in that manner I find it truly, truly appalling. I wasn't there and I didn't partake in any verbal or written assaults on Mr. Atwood.
In that same vein, however, I cannot condone the witch hunt that is going on here with respect to Mr Murray's moral character. Bad behaviour is not an excuse for more bad behaviour. Every time someone questions your rationalization for maligning Mr. Murray your only reply is -- but, but what about BA? It seems to me you and others feel it's justified in egging on other posters because you feel BA was mistreated.
Any character assassination of Mr. Atwood after February 9, 2004 has nothing to do with Maura's disappearance. If Mr. Murray was brusque with searchers, it's regrettable, but again nothing to do with what happened to his daughter.
I have no stake in this and no personal knowledge of any of the parties involved.

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whitenoise wrote:

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Sharon said BILLY erased it !

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Wowzer the real one wrote:

<quoted text>The old MMM site and the threads that dragged BA and the locals thru the mud have disappeared, taking the proof with them. POOF! GONE!!
BA was maligned in some way???? Yeah I guess you could say that along with being blamed, crucified,hurt, talked negatively about on an internet public forum and questioned by family, strangers, LE, friends and reporters over and over and over again. Even after he moved to FL Pi's tracked him down for more questions. All in the name of MM.
It's quite obvious that the old MMM forum members that played a part in and allowed the bashing and spewing of hatred are here on Topix under different monikers.
It's really funny how you try to silence posters with the word libel now that you can't just delete and ban them if you don't like what is being said. Quite interesting.

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FrmLE wrote:

The NH Cold Case Unit has had the case for some time now. It is not on the top of the file cabinet though.

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mcsmom wrote:

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According to Snowy Mason was right on track.......
Mason
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:18 am Post subject:
Joined: 19 Dec 2008
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This is a huge and significant difference from what I would have expected him to say, given his other statements. I expected him to say she remained with the car, or she's waiting in the car, or something to that effect. Therefore, I believe he must have seen Maura leave the car, or he never would have said that. Yet, he told Smith that he didn't see her leave the vehicle. What second thoughts caused him to play dumb with Sgt Smith?
Now, what about the statement that Anne heard? The statement that Maura left in a privately owned vehicle? Well, I'll bet there's a reference to that statement in the Hanover Dispatch Log for 1943 hours on February 9, 2004. And the caller was either Butch or Barbara Atwood.
Notice that Barbara Atwood saying Butch "has no idea where she is" is consistent with Butch saying "she got into a privately owned vehicle and left the scene." In both cases, he might not know where she is, but the specificity of the second statement coupled with not revealing that information suggests a deliberate effort to conceal material information to prevent or delay Smith from finding Maura.
We know Atwood didn't tell Sgt Smith that she left in a private vehicle because Smith issued a BOLO for a woman on foot. Therefore, unless Anne is mistaken about what she heard over the radio, Atwood concealed material information from Smith. Since we already know that he told Smith he didn't see her leave the scene, which his wife contradicted when she talked to Ronda Marsh, Butch Atwood's credibility is deep in the toilet.
Anne, on the other hand was concerned about her friend's safety. Her friend was new to the area and not used to driving on icy and snowy roads. When Anne heard about the accident over the radio, she thought her friend was in the accident and she feared for her friend's life. Therefore, she paid very close attention to reports about the accident and was relieved to hear that the driver left the scene in a privately owned vehicle and apparently okay. I believe that her recollection is accurate.
For these reasons, I think we'll find that statement on the Hanover Dispatch Log and tape. If it's there, Mr. Atwood better lawyer up because he's gonna have a lot of splainin to do and no one is going to believe anything he says unless it can be independently verified.
If I'm right, he's got a come-to-Jesus-moment staring him in the face and he better give up the identity of the driver of that privately owned vehicle that he appears to have been protecting and everything else he knows about this case before the roof falls in on him.

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mcsmom wrote:

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According to Snowy Mason was right on track.......
Mason
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:18 am Post subject:
Joined: 19 Dec 2008
Posts: 414
Part 2
This is a huge and significant difference from what I would have expected him to say, given his other statements. I expected him to say she remained with the car, or she's waiting in the car, or something to that effect. Therefore, I believe he must have seen Maura leave the car, or he never would have said that. Yet, he told Smith that he didn't see her leave the vehicle. What second thoughts caused him to play dumb with Sgt Smith?
Now, what about the statement that Anne heard? The statement that Maura left in a privately owned vehicle? Well, I'll bet there's a reference to that statement in the Hanover Dispatch Log for 1943 hours on February 9, 2004. And the caller was either Butch or Barbara Atwood.
Notice that Barbara Atwood saying Butch "has no idea where she is" is consistent with Butch saying "she got into a privately owned vehicle and left the scene." In both cases, he might not know where she is, but the specificity of the second statement coupled with not revealing that information suggests a deliberate effort to conceal material information to prevent or delay Smith from finding Maura.
We know Atwood didn't tell Sgt Smith that she left in a private vehicle because Smith issued a BOLO for a woman on foot. Therefore, unless Anne is mistaken about what she heard over the radio, Atwood concealed material information from Smith. Since we already know that he told Smith he didn't see her leave the scene, which his wife contradicted when she talked to Ronda Marsh, Butch Atwood's credibility is deep in the toilet.
Anne, on the other hand was concerned about her friend's safety. Her friend was new to the area and not used to driving on icy and snowy roads. When Anne heard about the accident over the radio, she thought her friend was in the accident and she feared for her friend's life. Therefore, she paid very close attention to reports about the accident and was relieved to hear that the driver left the scene in a privately owned vehicle and apparently okay. I believe that her recollection is accurate.
For these reasons, I think we'll find that statement on the Hanover Dispatch Log and tape. If it's there, Mr. Atwood better lawyer up because he's gonna have a lot of splainin to do and no one is going to believe anything he says unless it can be independently verified.
If I'm right, he's got a come-to-Jesus-moment staring him in the face and he better give up the identity of the driver of that privately owned vehicle that he appears to have been protecting and everything else he knows about this case before the roof falls in on him.

Det Columbo wrote:

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You seem pretty sure of that. Maybe You should go take another look.
John

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Wowzer the real one wrote:

<quoted text>First I have no idea why you're bringing this up.Mason accused many people of doing harm to Maura.
So far there is no dispatch, police report or any other kind of paperwork to verify that there was another accident and it seems Anne and possibly someone else in her house are the only ones in the state that heard a second accident on the scanner.
Are you just going to keep the bashing of the SBD and his wife going here on Topix now that your other favorite site no longer exists. The man is dead. Let him RIP for heaven sakes. Have you no decency?

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FrmLE wrote:

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I am sure of it.

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FrmLE wrote:

The NH Cold Case Unit has had the case for some time now. It is not on the top of the file cabinet though.

Det Columbo wrote:

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UNLESS You are a part of the CCU You cannot answer that question with any certainty.
John

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mcsmom wrote:

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unless Anne is mistaken about what she heard over the radio, Atwood concealed material information from Smith.

hannah_b wrote:

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Mason later came to a completely different conclusion, and was the first poster to openly accuse Fred Murray of killing his daughter. This was on Advocate´s second forum, where also the incinerator stuff was posted, not sure if Mason was the origin of this as well.